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darkone
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It looks like they're going to require NCSU freshman to live on campus starting Fall 2017.

https://ncsu.edu/3d-memos/details.php?id=208

8/16/2016 12:12:54 PM

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living at home was the only reason i went to that school. this rule will make them lose a lot of the rich raleigh kids.

8/16/2016 12:14:47 PM

darkone
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I haven't seen the policy details yet. I wonder who will be subject to the policy and who won't.

8/16/2016 12:20:12 PM

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Yeah if I lived in Raleigh I would say I have no problem with this so long as I don't have to pay for it. Many people in Raleigh will go to school here because its a lot more affordable since they can live at home for a year or two. Forcing someone to pay room and board when it doesn't make financial sense isn't going to win my vote.

I could see them saying no apartments, but if you can prove your parents live within say 45 minutes of campus and can prove you are living with them you shouldn't be subject to this IMO.

[Edited on August 16, 2016 at 12:26 PM. Reason : .]

8/16/2016 12:25:29 PM

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I thought it has been a "requirement" just an easy one to skirt?

8/16/2016 12:32:42 PM

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How can they mandate where someone lives?

What if the dorm is more expensive?
What if you want to live with your spouse?
What if you want to live alone?

8/16/2016 12:34:04 PM

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My parents lived in Raleigh and said I lived with them, but really I rented an apartment with a bunch of upper classman. I never lived in a dorm and I'm happy I didn't.

8/16/2016 12:45:47 PM

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^^^ It's never been a requirement at NCSU as far as I'm aware.

If this mirrors the UNC-CH policy the exceptions are likely to be:
1) Student is 21 years old prior to the opening day for the residence halls...
2) Student is living with his/her spouse and/or children
3) Student is military veteran with at least two years of active service
4) The student has a medical hardship that would require him/her to make other living arrangements
5) Student has a financial hardship

UNC-CH has a application for waiver process where you have to submit a bunch of evidence.

UNC-CH Policy Details:
http://housing.unc.edu/future-residents/first-year-students/live-on-requirement

[Edited on August 16, 2016 at 12:48 PM. Reason : need more ^s]

8/16/2016 12:48:29 PM

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They are probably losing money. With all those new baller apartments on Hillsborough no one wants to live on campus when they can live a block away and have a real apartment?

8/16/2016 1:01:24 PM

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Living on campus substantially increases the odds of you meeting Paul Cousins.

8/16/2016 1:04:28 PM

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ECU has been doing this for a couple of years now. It's supposed to encourage campus involvement & well, bring $ to the University I suppose.

8/16/2016 1:07:01 PM

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how 'bout all the rest of the freshmen amirite

8/16/2016 1:14:37 PM

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haha what a money grab. gotta fill up all those dorms they're building somehow I guess although I don't think there are that many true freshmen that wouldn't prefer living on campus unless they live in Raleigh already or have one of the other circumstances mentioned above.

I guess the flip side of this is campus involvement and maybe an argument that living on campus is crucial to academic success the first year (you can drag yourself into class rather than having to drive across Raleigh, find parking, etc.) although I'd argue that there is way more distraction on campus than off.

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"living at home was the only reason i went to that school. this rule will make them lose a lot of the rich raleigh kids."


Why would this make them lose rich Raleigh kids? Rich kids either live in UT or whatever other semi-private housing or their parents buy/rent them a nice place off-campus. Living at home is usually for people who don't want to incur the expense of living off campus. A "rich Raleigh kid" wouldn't have to worry about that.

8/16/2016 1:30:48 PM

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Interesting. I was actually eager to live in the dorms for a year or two and wouldn't have wanted to stay somewhere private. It was a critical part of the experience. I certainly see the objection to people with family who live in the area, but I'm sympathetic to efforts at getting people out of apartments and into dorms those first couple semesters.

I wonder, are they actually having problems filling the dorms they have now? I don't recall ever hearing of empty rooms when I was there.

8/16/2016 1:31:23 PM

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That's some bullshit

8/16/2016 1:54:32 PM

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So can you still just get caught with a joint to get kicked off campus? That is one way out of it.

8/16/2016 1:57:46 PM

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I was saying the rich kids who rent private apartments would turn their nose up to a place like bowen. they will just go to a different school and live in a nice apartment if nc state makes it illegal.

8/16/2016 1:58:37 PM

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Quote :
"this rule will make them lose a lot of the rich raleigh kids."


ECU has the same policy, but there are reasonable situations for which you can get a waiver. It's not a huge deal.

8/16/2016 1:59:27 PM

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Unless "I can live wherever the fuck I want while I attend this public university" is considered reasonable, then this policy is bullshit.

[Edited on August 16, 2016 at 2:11 PM. Reason : Bd]

8/16/2016 2:11:13 PM

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Today, NC State is Meredith College.

8/16/2016 2:16:48 PM

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Which freshman? And why only him/her?

8/16/2016 2:25:31 PM

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Man oh man, can you relate?

8/16/2016 4:45:56 PM

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Ugh such bullshit. Working at UNC and being on the bus route, if my kids want to go to school there, I would hate to have to pay for a dorm just because they want to make more $$. Same if I lived around NCSU campus. In that case, you are probably going to get more kids who go to Wake or Durham Tech for their first two years and then transfer to NCSU.

UNC has the same problem though, as they closed two older dorms because they can't compete with new places like Shortbread Lofts.

8/16/2016 4:58:38 PM

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Freshmen should live in dorms.

I wish they had made me live in somewhere other than the nerd dorms. Lee and Sullivan sucked.

8/16/2016 5:09:10 PM

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Texas Rattle-snakes at IN-SEE STATE

8/16/2016 5:17:11 PM

darkone
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I wonder if the university would have any recourse if a freshman refused to live on campus? I also wonder if a freshman would have grounds to sue if the university did take any such action?

8/16/2016 5:36:34 PM

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i'm a fan, a lot of the college experience is the dorm experience

8/16/2016 5:38:44 PM

darkone
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I chose to live in the dorms and I'm glad I did. However, I'm not keen on the idea of being made to live there.

8/16/2016 5:43:30 PM

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Quote :
"Ugh such bullshit. Working at UNC and being on the bus route, if my kids want to go to school there, I would hate to have to pay for a dorm just because they want to make more $$. Same if I lived around NCSU campus. In that case, you are probably going to get more kids who go to Wake or Durham Tech for their first two years and then transfer to NCSU.
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It's overly cynical to say this is just to make money.

It's a real thing that staying in dorm increases graduation rates, so i'm glad NCSU is taking this step.

8/16/2016 5:45:02 PM

NeuseRvrRat
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correlation or causation? link to study, please.

8/16/2016 5:47:34 PM

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^^i thought you were pro choice

[Edited on August 16, 2016 at 5:48 PM. Reason : d]

8/16/2016 5:48:06 PM

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personally i want NCSU to turn into a commuter college with no atmosphere or sense of identity or campus culture so actually i'm totally opposed to this idea

[Edited on August 16, 2016 at 5:49 PM. Reason : ^^lmgtfy.com]

8/16/2016 5:48:08 PM

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perhaps they could make campus housing more appealing instead of just forcing people to live there

[Edited on August 16, 2016 at 6:00 PM. Reason : but nice false dichotomy]

8/16/2016 6:00:01 PM

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^ this isn't about appealing to people's sense of comfort or aesthetics.

It's more targeted towards the fringe group of students, generally from disadvantaged backgrounds, who are more likely to commute for financial reasons. The vast majority of freshman already stay on campus.

Making staying on campus a requirement makes it easier to get loans or grants for these costs, or in the case of overly-protective parents, gives the students a good excuse to leave the nest.

8/16/2016 6:10:36 PM

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why can't folks just decide for themselves?

8/16/2016 6:13:40 PM

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^because money ;3

8/16/2016 7:50:52 PM

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^^ because the university needs to improve its rankings, this is one thing that will help

8/16/2016 7:59:26 PM

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I actually liked living on campus for two years. Looking back on it, never in my life will I ever have all of my friends, entertainment, and cheap food within walking distance. I lived on campus two years. One year in Alexander, and one year in North.

Still, seems wrong to force someone to live somewhere. What is first year college now, a gulag with dormitories?

8/16/2016 8:05:08 PM

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moron said the vast majority of freshmen already stay on campus. how is making some more of them stay on campus going to increase rankings? what are these rankings? who does the ranking? why do i, as a NC taxpayer, care about these rankings?

[Edited on August 16, 2016 at 8:05 PM. Reason : as]

8/16/2016 8:05:21 PM

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^I don't think it would really improve anything at all

only thing I can see is that it would increase the total university income

I don't really see how it'd benefit anyone else in any capacity

8/16/2016 9:48:15 PM

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the letter says that a lot of universities do it (that it's "common practice") and that it potentially increase rates of success

TBH that doesn't sound like enough of an explanation for doing that

I imagine it'll probably get overturned, or fail on them in some capacity

it's really dumb to do that

especially since they aren't making new dorms (or are they?)

they're definitely going to alienate certain people I'd think

ah well

8/16/2016 9:53:21 PM

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Quote :
"I never lived in a dorm and I'm happy I didn't."


I'm 100% sure that I'm glad I didn't do something, which I have no direct knowledge of.

8/16/2016 10:20:15 PM

OmarBadu
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did 2 years in wood hall and loved it

8/16/2016 10:36:03 PM

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If that was an argument based paper I would give it an F.

8/16/2016 11:00:30 PM

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I think this has happened because they built dorms on Centennial Campus and can't rent them out. I've heard these numbers second hand but before the Centennial halls were built, main campus halls were at >99% capacity. Now, it's a bit lower, 96-97%. The primary residents in the Centennial halls are just freshmen and sophomores that would have normally been on main campus, not upperclassmen like housing was wanting. I haven't heard numbers for Centennial capacity but it's evidently very low. They are probably trying to flood main campus with freshmen so they can force more people onto Centennial. They should have known better.

8/16/2016 11:04:00 PM

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If this is the case it totally defeats their argument that it is to keep the students together in a community. Many off campus apartments are WAY close than centennial campus.

8/16/2016 11:17:53 PM

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seems like this would kill UT, College Inn, etc

they were very freshmen heavy back in my day, unless they get some sort of exemption.

and I don't see them just letting it happen if it means less $$ for them either

8/16/2016 11:48:56 PM

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Had the same rule when I started back in 1995.

8/17/2016 9:08:52 AM

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I think they overbuilt the dorms, either that or the dorms are shittier than nearby apartments and people are just opting to go off campus. Either way this is just a money grab, nothing to do with perceived benefits to the students.

8/17/2016 9:09:16 AM

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Yeah I wondered how this worked for a place like UT, technically not on campus but considered a "dorm". I imagine 80% of their residents are FR and SO.

8/17/2016 9:25:21 AM

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