Because chit-chat is the new soap box...lettuce discuss.

http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/honda-paying-24-million-settle-racial-discriminati/nmy9R/

7/15/2015 11:58:02 AM

I don't buy it. Everybody knows minorities catch all the breaks.

7/15/2015 7:20:47 PM

Well purely from a statistical/profit point of view I wouldn't be surprised if there are studies that show certain racial groups represent a high risk. That is racist though!

[Edited on July 15, 2015 at 7:30 PM. Reason : a]

7/15/2015 7:29:38 PM

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"The Consumer Finance Protection Bureau found that Honda made minorities pay $150 to $250 more on average more than white borrowers, without even factoring in their credit history."

at least ^ is self-identifying now.

7/15/2015 7:31:40 PM

I was merely hypothesizing the logic of the loan office. Without factoring credit history I really do believe an executive could reasonably use data to justify the delta in loan payments.

If you factor in credit history I'm sure the risk delta is negligible between racial groups.

7/15/2015 7:34:10 PM

Most people I know have bad credit

7/15/2015 8:07:14 PM

...and now profit -= $24 million

So much for that profit point of view.

7/15/2015 9:09:22 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/05/us/texas-affluenza-teen/

7/15/2015 9:28:56 PM

I have a welcome mat that says COME BACK WITH A WARRANT.

7/15/2015 9:35:43 PM

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"I was merely hypothesizing the logic of the loan office. Without factoring credit history I really do believe an executive could reasonably use data to justify the delta in loan payments. If you factor in credit history I'm sure the risk delta is negligible between racial groups. "

There's probably data to show that blacks have higher risk, but that's irrelevant in this situation, when they have the ability to do an actual credit check. You can't really use the excuse you're claiming in this situation.

This is literally the exact definition of systemic racism though. Blacks are poorer because of blatant racism by society and the government, which leads to worse credit in aggregate, which makes lenders generally less trusting of blacks, which keeps them poorer.

7/15/2015 10:18:05 PM

disparate impact lending

7/15/2015 10:38:05 PM

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"Without factoring credit history I really do believe an executive could reasonably use data to justify the delta in loan payments."

You're pathological. These guys are not actuaries; they're financing sedans.

Rental agents can't even tell me how many kids my potential neighbors might have. Obviously, Honda can't jack up terms on non-white people. It's obviously against the law.

And I don't wanna get too cute here, but the Internet was supposed to solve this shit. There was supposed to be a database where everybody shared their stuff and made all this shit transparent. Does this exist yet?

7/15/2015 11:28:43 PM

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"Blacks are poorer because of blatant racism by society and the government"

Bullshit

Keep making excuses if it makes you feel better.

7/16/2015 12:46:10 AM

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"HUR:WTF. If you are tired and sick of the white man putting you down move back to fucking africa."

7/16/2015 12:59:04 AM

^^ clearly you're not familiar with any part of american history in the 20th century.

7/16/2015 1:00:58 AM

Nope but I listen to hip-hop so I'm ethnically educated

7/16/2015 3:35:25 AM

7/16/2015 4:29:26 AM

obligatory systemic racism is real and perpetrated by people who may not personally be racist post

7/16/2015 6:33:57 AM

I bet HUR works in middle management.

7/16/2015 7:30:49 AM

Could we perhaps rename white privilege though? I feel a more appropriate term would be "majority privilege." Because I bet many of the problems associated to white privilege could be applied to any society's majority.

And some day, in the not too distant future, this theory will be tested because caucasians will no longer be the majority in this country.

7/16/2015 7:44:32 AM

Citation please

7/16/2015 8:04:31 AM

^^nope...it's white privilege. you people had a head start in this country, so it just is what it is.

7/16/2015 9:29:30 AM

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"Could we perhaps rename white privilege though? I feel a more appropriate term would be "majority privilege." Because I bet many of the problems associated to white privilege could be applied to any society's majority. "

Like during apartheid in South Africa right?

7/16/2015 9:39:05 AM

Hey look, I'm not saying that changing the name would make it right, but at least it would make more sense. White privilege doesn't exist because all white people are subconsciously racist. It exists because white people, from the beginning, have been a majority in this country.

7/16/2015 9:41:42 AM

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" It exists because white people, from the beginning, have been a majority in this country."

Yah, like in South Africa. Got it.

7/16/2015 9:56:45 AM

This is too complicated for it to be a worthwhile convo.

7/16/2015 9:59:35 AM

one master with 30 slaves, majority rule?

7/16/2015 10:07:33 AM

Indeed.

7/16/2015 10:18:55 AM

how about Caucasian Privilege? You guys are so fucking racist for calling caucasian people "white".

7/16/2015 10:34:09 AM

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"" It exists because white people, from the beginning, have been a majority in this country.""

Financially the majority. Its the same concept though, those with numbers/money/power shit on those without it.

Doesn't look like there is much white privilege in South Africa right now.

7/16/2015 10:34:51 AM

are there any studies on this in South American countries? I'm going to assume it's depressing.

7/16/2015 10:49:47 AM

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"obligatory systemic racism is real and perpetrated by people who may not personally be racist post "

I know it is completely unfathomable to recognize that a % of systemic racism that does exist, because a subset of African Americans act in ways that perpetuate stereotypes (i.e. glorfying gangster culture, exemplifying living in the welfare, and burning down their own towns) that reinforce biased attitudes by other peoples (not just limited to whites).

7/16/2015 2:26:12 PM

^subsets off many races, including ofays, act in those very same ways.

7/16/2015 2:40:37 PM

lol it's not his fault he's racist. it's their fault.

dude really is a piece of work.

7/16/2015 2:50:09 PM

"I'm not saying every African-American is a ni--" *sound of a car hitting HUR*

[Edited on July 16, 2015 at 2:57 PM. Reason : LEARN YOUR CRAZYCODE]

7/16/2015 2:57:45 PM

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"lol it's not his fault he's racist. it's their fault. "

There is nothing racist about my comment, you are a fucking naive twat if you can't recognize this as the truth. Smath is right though in that there are subsets of all races that act in the same ways. There seems to be pride among some though to be "hood"; which seems to be more prevalent among poor blacks than from equivalent from poor white/Hispanics/asians. There are plenty that are proud to be self-proclaimed Rednecks. Either way if you can't understand how acting "hood" perpetuates stereotypes than you are an idiot.

I've had plenty of teachers friends that have provided anecdotes of african-american students chastising their peers for "acting-white" if they say good grades on tests.

[Edited on July 16, 2015 at 3:10 PM. Reason : a]

[Edited on July 16, 2015 at 3:11 PM. Reason : a]

7/16/2015 3:00:39 PM

I love his wealth of anecdotal data that supports his racist views.

[Edited on July 16, 2015 at 3:14 PM. Reason : Tacked on to the end of each post like THIS PROVES EVERYTHING]

7/16/2015 3:13:35 PM

im pretty sure HUR has never left NC

Also how is your anecdote any different then the majority of Americans believing a cloud tells them to hate gays. Sounds like they hate critical thinking.





[Edited on July 16, 2015 at 3:22 PM. Reason : Hhh]

7/16/2015 3:16:54 PM

I live in Oregon dude plus I have likely been more places in the world then you dude. I've seen some real racists people. Like the group of white Ecuadorians in Argentina who basically summarized that they were proud to be the ruling class and how they hate "natives" which are the traditional hispanic looking people that make up the majority of the population in Ecuador.

Everyone here in Oregon thinks the South is full of KKK black hating white supremacists that love their bibles. If you can't analyze where biasness originates or how stereotypes are created then there is no hope in fixing inequality.

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"Sounds like they hate critical thinking."

Seems like you and synapse are the only ones here that have difficulty with critical thinking.....
I think you guys need to take a field trip to inner city Baltimore.

[Edited on July 16, 2015 at 3:51 PM. Reason : a]

7/16/2015 3:47:58 PM

Ha. Ok bruh

[Edited on July 16, 2015 at 3:53 PM. Reason : I live in a Caribbean neighborhood in Brooklyn. It's decent. ]

7/16/2015 3:52:38 PM

go to the "inner city" and witness some "urban" people

you know what i'm talking about

side note does anyone else hear that whistle

7/16/2015 3:53:00 PM

I have no issues with people because of their skin color or ethnicity.

I do have issues with ignorant uneducated classless people, especially ones that cause problems for society. Perfectly PC is bashing Jimbo the obese lazy white dude from the trailer park or making fun of Billy Bob the confederate flag waving red neck from bumfuck NC. Mention anything analogous for a member of a minority race and the quivering PC vaginas come out scream ZOMG RACISM SO MEAN.

I think it's purely logical to analyze how a subset of African Americans through their behavior can perpetuate a stereotype that ends up negatively impacting the entire black community. Often leading to hardships that can also influence folks to enter this "subset" to begin with which then further perpetuates the stereotype so on and so on. It's a fucking multi-variable feedback loop.

I suppose though this is too complicated for the TWW arm-chair civil rights advocates who'd rather just scream racism and blame the evil mean system controlled by white people that holds a whole population of minorities down because the power brokers and police don't like people with black skin.

[Edited on July 16, 2015 at 4:09 PM. Reason : da]

7/16/2015 4:08:15 PM

*actually* when *i* say the word, i mean *ignorant* people

7/16/2015 4:18:19 PM

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"I have no issues with people because of their skin color or ethnicity."

re: ferguson

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"HUR:Are the niggas still looting?"

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"HUR:Seeing that the top two candidates for the Dem party is a black guy and Queen Hillary; I would put a vote in for Giulani"

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"HUR: my buddy was checking out the black bitch working the register"

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"HUR: I suppose due to racial tensions and the plight of the black man; they should be allowed to get away with burglary and assault in today's America."

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"HUR:WTF. If you are tired and sick of the white man putting you down move back to fucking africa."

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"HUR:Even better is hopefully the GOP will get enough of a slap in the face by being beat by a half black person that they will have a wake up call. "

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"HUR:you can take the black man out of the hood but you can't take the hood out of him"

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"HURon't worry i am sure the welfare receiving blacks in our society will move onto a new excuse as to why they can not get a job or need to live their entire life on gov't subsidies"

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"HUR:I am hoping after a humiliating defeat (by a black guy) the GOP will wake the fuck up"

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"HURerhaps if certain minority groups stopped propragating certain behaviors and idealizing the gangster lifestyle than this issue would dissolve. There was that bar down the street, that is now closed, that was primarily attended by a certain racial group. Notoriously was it known for knife violence and other criminal activities compared to the more mainstream bars. I know of this not just from the media and word of mouth; but also from friends of mine that are cops."

re: gunshots in South Raleigh

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"HUR:niggas gotta earn that street cred"

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"HUR:oh noes dat 15 year old white half asian looked at me funny; leroy and tyronne we gots to teach da mofo a lesson show we got that street cred yo!"

below a picture of a black looter:

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"HUR:Niggas gotta have dat purple drank!"

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"HUR:i didn't think black people liked swimming or cold weather"

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"HUR:then there is always the niggers that speed up to prevent you from gettin in front of them. I have almost run off the road a few times b.c of that one."

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"HUR:I would rather my tax $$$ be spent on helping Americans than blowing up sand niggers in Iraq"

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"HUR:i love how blacks use the word nigger and will even use it w/ positive connotations much like frat guys use "brothers". Yet if a white person uses it they get their ass kicked or have a bunch of people being like "OMG racist!""

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"HUR:yeah i think since there are all black universities we should be able to have a all white university"

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"HUR:The point still stands that a group of students nearly beat to death another student. The noose, white tree, and all that other crap the media hypes up is irrelevant"

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"HUR:Certain minority groups want there cake and eat it too. When the duke lacrosse situation went down the same minority group were basically in uproar about bringing the wealth white rapists to justice. On the reverse situation its the evil white establishment picking on the poor black community."

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"HUR:If it was some white guy in a confederate flag shirt walking around with a noose I might be able to understand some people getting upset. Last time i checked it was not against the law for simply creating a noose."

re: black drivers

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"HUR:i have found this minority group unproportionally will be the one's being left lane drivers not getting over for faster traffic; but will also be the first one riding your ass in either lane even if you are in the passing lane and are forced to drive slower due to a moron in front of you."

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"HUR: a TP noose laying in a bathroom is not a form of hate crime. A redneck driving his F250 with a confederate flag filling the back window and a noose hanging on the side, maybe."

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"HUR:If he is implying that it is the white man's fault for holding black people down then this is absolutely retarded. I look around at the Asian, hispanic, etc minorities and they do not seem to have the same problems. Maybe if African Americans valued the same ideals as the rest of society they wouldn't not be stuck as a part of the underclass. Instead a large % (not everyone) of the youth population values little more then being a NBA player, drug dealer, or living the lifestyle described by their favorite gangster rapper."

7/16/2015 4:34:23 PM

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"HUR:most blacks ancestor's got an "escort" over"

re: slaves

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"HUR:you made one mistake Megaloman they did get Free passage over the US"

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"HUR:Whenever I hear black people bitching about civil rights I just b.c they have far less claim for "reparations" or racial desparity then native americans. I do not believe african americans are owed anything in contrast to Al Sharpton but I genuinely believe we have a debt to pay to the Native Americans."

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"HUR:Heaven forbid they actually want to change the negative image created by certain member of their race that idealize thug life, gang violence, and drug use. "

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"HUR:I have come to the conclusion that all card carrying liberal democrats are in reality enablers to the plight within which the black community experiences. With their coddling and safety economic hammock they have given the room for minorities to be like "yeah its the white establishment holding us down" or whenever they get in trouble it is "racism in the judicial system after a brother". This is not 1956; I think most people in today of more of a problem with a particular person's mindset versus arbitrary skin color."

re: 2 black kids who beat up a white kid at wakefield high

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"HUR:whatever happened to those nAggers"

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"HUR:I'm going to laugh if i ever hear a black person say whites owe them reparations. They are about to have a 1/2 black president &&&& They have taken over a majority of US sports (hell Tiger is the highest paid golfer) and white people pay them millions to watch them have fun playing ball. White youth all over the country mimic hip hop culture with their music or style."

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"HUR:I heard there was an orgainization with the same purpose but for white people. what was this group called again?? hmmm... oh yeah the KKK but those people are evil bad racists and NAACP is a rightous orgainiazation fighting a gov't of white people that holds them back. oh wait a second the next president is half black."

re: AIDS

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"HUR:I don't do heroin; have gay butt sex; or fuck black girls. So i'm not that worried...."

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"HUR: African Americans should be grateful for the sacrifice their ancestors made for them in order to provide them with a substantially better life than if they were living in Africa where civil wars and diseases like AIDs plague the land. I would say Japs or were interned during WW2 and the remaining remants of the native american population have more of a right for reparations than today's black population. Besides many already receive kind of a form of reparation its called their weekly welfare check"

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"HUR:these cash payments already exist... they are called welfare payments and affirmitive action"

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"HUR:My friend is an english teacher; he can attest to the fact that among his "less privileged" blacks any that attempts to make a contribution to the class discussion or gets a good essay grade is teased by his peers for trying to "be white". This is unfortunate but no amount of Bridget coddling will prevent this. Sink or swim. Although, many of these kids would be better off on a "vocational" tract at this level. Where they could learn a skill beyond basketball, drug dealing, or rapping (preferred subjects chosen to write about by these students when my friend ask them to write about a career they are interested in); since a majority have no need for the college prep environment most schools default to in modern day. "

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"HUR:I do not know what the fucking problem but some of my nearby townhouse neighbors (one is two doors to my right; the other is a couple houses diagonally to my left) have increasingly been double parking in their parking spots with the intention of taking up a visitor parking space. "Coincedently" these neighbors have been of similar ethnicities ... In my opinion they are just asking for their cars to get fucked with. If they are so concerned about someone dinking their car or if they want their own private visitor parking than perhaps they should be buying a house with the money they current use to lease their cadillac or put chrome spinners on their 92 chevy cavalier."

7/16/2015 4:34:44 PM

re: getting pulled over for a BS reason

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"HUR:ya i felt like a black person in 1955 Mobile Alabama"

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"HUR:The only reason this story has any air time is because the media is trying to play on the "ZOMG DISCRIMINATION, COP HITS POOR INNOCENT BLACK WOMAN". Give me a break this is not the 60's. I'm sure the cop would have responded the same if it were a white/asian/arab/vulcan/jawa woman"

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"HUR:imho the black community does more to continue the "racial divide" and perpetuate racial tensions that would otherwise smoothe out and nearly does not exist between other races in this country. They preach equality and at the same time demand special treatment in certain legal matters like "hate crimes", expect economic opportunities to be handed to them via Affirmitive Action instead of solely by merit, and often are just as racist as the whites they banter about as being bigots."

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"HUR:I do not see why it is so far fetched or considered racist to consider the possibility that the normal distribution of certain races may be shifted to the right when it comes to attributes like intelligence. Different evolutionary pressures may easily have played a factor in say making North East asians better at technical or logical reasoning skills that perhaps were not necessary for survival in sub-saharan Africa. Would anyone argue that black athletes do not tend to be faster or jump higher than their white companions On Average."

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"HUR:I truly think there is more racism among whites in this country not b.c they are tired of welfare queens or have it inherently built in passed down from one generation to the next; but instead due to all this double standard, extreme political correctness, and all the excessive framing done by the Al Sharpton types to turn racially neutral news stories into ones with some hidden racist spin."

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"HUR:ZOMG Michelle Obama depicted as a monkey blow the mother fucking horn RACISM!!!!!"

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"HUR:So are you asserting that the civil war was not about states rights???? It is a sad day when the federal system has worked its tentacles so far into the classroom and history books that the majority of educated adults have a convoluted view of the past."

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"HUR:You mean people enslaved by their fellow africans after rival clan conflicts; which were conviently located on an easy trade route for trade ships going between europe and north america. Skin color had nothing to do with it and was merely an unfortuante by-product of the ensuing slave epic. Slavery is wrong but get your facts straight. Whites did not start maurading the coast of Africa looking for blacks to kidnap in order to throw them on the slave ship."

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"HUR:An individual at my company is african american, an ivy league grad, and one of the directors of the company. My post is no way shape or form that one race is better than another. Theoretically though I do not see why it is unreasonable, taboo, or racist to hypothesize that each demographic population has certain strengths and weaknesses that enabled them to excel in each's characteristic environment. "

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"HUR:Nonetheless I had to be at the bus stop 20 mintues earlier, then when i was older had to drive 5 miles further in order to "add diversity" to East Meck. Stupid idea. If minority parents are upset that they believe the white conspiracy is "holding back" their predominantly black schools than why do they not move to an area where their kids can go to the majority white schools."

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"HUR: If they are so angry about the "whites" holding there great great great great grandads in slavery then they can go back to Africa."

re: NCSU LGBT center

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"HUR:Why do fags need $$$$ in order to sit around and discuss gay issues. I have the same feeling towards the already created "african american" center in Wintherspoon. Soon the asian community will want a asian center the mexicans a mexicans center we might as well make a straight center for all the straight students to discuss shit"

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"HUR:From my observation members of the african american community are more racist then most white people"

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"HUR:really was Africa that much better before colonialism???? Before europe came into power they were running around chucking spears at each other and it was the native AFRICANS that sold their AFRICAN brothers into slavery. Perhaps Jesse Jackson should petition Ghana for reparations instead of the US gov't for the enslavement of his ancestors."

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"HUR:Not to condone slavery or imply the ends justify the means but I think these members of the "African-America community" should respect and be grateful for the strengh of their ancestors to survive through the struggles of slavery which gave their descendants the chance they have today to succeed in our modern day country. What would be the alternative? The chance of getting caught in the instability, civil wars, and other ongoing problems like AIDs in Africa."

7/16/2015 4:35:15 PM

I think you confuse real racism to my general insensitivity, sarcasm, and trolling to piss pussies like some of you in this thread.

BTW I was talking to my sister last night. She is pretty liberal and about as PC as you can get. This summer she is working as a pool inspector for the city of Baltimore ensuring pools are meeting health/safety code. This past week she mentioned she was very uncomfortable while visiting several communities/apartments within inner city Baltimore. Does this make her racist?

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"re: NCSU LGBT center"

to be fair though new world experience, intuition, and learning more about the subject I support the LBGT center. If you actually do your research you'll discover Justice Kennedy as a district court judge actually sided against a gay couple back in the 80's fighting for their right to marriage after being denied by the counties office. I think his disposition even included the word "fag".

[Edited on July 16, 2015 at 4:55 PM. Reason : a]

7/16/2015 4:48:57 PM

Why did she feel unsafe?

7/16/2015 4:55:37 PM

^^^That's creepy. How long did it take you to compile that list?

[Edited on July 16, 2015 at 4:56 PM. Reason : ^]

7/16/2015 4:55:40 PM

^^ Said the looks she got, some off-hand comments and whistling. As well as obvious drug activity going on in the areas adjacent to the places she had to stop within these traditionally black neighborhoods.

[Edited on July 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM. Reason : a]

7/16/2015 4:57:23 PM