http://newsfeed.gawker.com/frat-turf-wars-now-involve-gunfire-1686073311

2/16/2015 1:11:47 PM

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2/16/2015 1:23:08 PM

I also have a gun. Jury's out on the good part tho : /

2/16/2015 1:28:10 PM

That guy that shot Hitler.

2/16/2015 7:44:42 PM

bunch of good guys with gunzz in this photo ... gunzz is flipping birds

[Edited on February 16, 2015 at 11:29 PM. Reason : G]

2/16/2015 11:29:13 PM

^man, all they wanna do is get wasted the whole time

[Edited on February 16, 2015 at 11:39 PM. Reason : how old is Jonathan Taylor Thomas in that pic, 14?]

2/16/2015 11:38:32 PM

2/17/2015 1:25:04 PM

That is a sweet Eddie Bauer sweatshirt.

2/17/2015 1:41:09 PM

←

2/17/2015 1:59:33 PM

http://bearingarms.com/concealed-carrying-pharmacist-saves-multiple-lives-west-virginia/

2/19/2015 7:24:19 PM

because robberies usually end with the robber shooting everyone around them on their way out

2/19/2015 7:41:42 PM

what is the purpose of comments like that?

what if the robber shot one of the staff first and then the pharmacist shot him? what would your reaction be then?

"another good guy with a gun didnt act fast enough"

"another good guy with a gun didnt make a difference"

"if he had been a trained professional he could have acted before one of his coworkers got shot"

theres no winning with people like you.

2/19/2015 7:49:19 PM

A fairly old one, but still quite entertaining. We could probably have a whole thread for just failed carjacking videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEHRO7X-0W0

2/19/2015 8:15:08 PM

I bet these responsible gun owners would support closing the gun show loophole, and increasing measures to discourage mentally disrupted people from acquiring guns, amirite?

2/19/2015 8:25:12 PM

What is this 'loop hole' you speak of?
Not getting government permission to trade or sell real property?

2/19/2015 8:29:14 PM

Allowing people who would otherwise be unable to purchase a gun, to purchase a gun.

2/19/2015 8:33:24 PM

Oh, I see, so breaking the law...

2/19/2015 8:55:48 PM

Skirting the law via gun shows, aka loophole

2/19/2015 9:15:01 PM

arrest people at gunshows breaking the law

shut down gunshows allowing people to break the law

...do what usually happens when laws are broken?

win

2/19/2015 9:48:45 PM

Right, those things require resources and rules, in the absence of which it doesn't happen. Hence loophole.

IOW, it's not an attack on gun enthusiasts values to prescribe ways to solve these specific problems. It's projects an mentality of irrationalism to react so defensively to these prescriptions.

[Edited on February 19, 2015 at 10:16 PM. Reason : ]

2/19/2015 10:11:21 PM

We should make a law about breaking laws

2/19/2015 10:15:56 PM

^^^^ dude, the "gun show loophole" isn't really about gun shows. for that matter, it isn't really what I would call a loophole, and simply getting rid of that provision and requiring all transfers going through an FFL would be either unenforceable or would require a registry of all firearms.


I mean, if you wanted to give everyone, not just FFLs, access to the background check hotline, and could do it in such a way that it didn't endanger people's privacy, and then required all sellers, private or FFL, to check the background of the buyer, then I'd go for that I think. It wouldn't be easily enforceable; you'd have to rely on people following the law, but it would be a tool that would help scrupulous sellers, at least.

2/19/2015 10:29:47 PM

^ that's where the "gun show" part of "gun show loophole" comes in, it puts the onus on show organizers and local officials to make sure the wrong people aren't buying guns, it also provides incentives for local authorities to enforce these laws. Which would be the point of any legislation... to provide tools and guidance to the people that need it.

IOW, the "problems" you cited are easily surmountable, and doesn't really demand the hate that some gun enthusiasts have for the policies. It's just providing further tools to enforce the current sprit of existing laws...

Anyway, point was that gun people get unreasonably defensive about anything related to guns, so it's hard for people to even discuss the issue politically. Just seeing if this has changed at all... doesn't seem to have.

2/19/2015 10:50:04 PM

2/19/2015 11:37:09 PM

Quote :

" it puts the onus on show organizers and local officials to make sure the wrong people aren't buying guns"

Gun shows don't do that. It's not like local officials are screening ticket buys/attendees to see if they are fellons before they enter the trade show.

there's no point arguing this, especially with moron. It's been discussed repeatedly over various threads.

2/20/2015 12:47:39 AM

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/24/12405148/

Clackamas mall shooter faced man with concealed weapon

Quote :

"PORTLAND -- Nick Meli is emotionally drained. The 22-year-old was at Clackamas Town Center with a friend and her baby when a masked man opened fire. I heard three shots and turned and looked at Casey and said, 'are you serious?,' he said. The friend and baby hit the floor. Meli, who has a concealed carry permit, positioned himself behinda pillar. He was working on his rifle, said Meli. He kept pulling the charging handle and hitting the side. The break in gunfire allowed Meli to pull out his own gun, but he never took his eyes off the shooter. As I was going down to pull, I saw someone in the back of the Charlotte move, and I knew if I fired and missed, I could hit them, he said. Meli took cover inside a nearby store. He never pulled the trigger. He stands by that decision. I'm not beating myself up cause I didn't shoot him, said Meli. I know after he saw me, I think the last shot he fired was the one he used on himself. Photos:Clackamas Town Center shooting The gunman was dead, but not before taking two innocent lives with him and taking the innocence of everyone else. Idon't ever want to see anyone that way ever, said Meli. It just bothers me. "

2/20/2015 12:50:47 AM

Quote :

"It has also been consistently and repeatedly confirmed that defensive gun use (DGU) is effective: crime victims who use guns for self-protection are less likely to be injured or lose property than otherwise similar victims in otherwise similar crime situations who either do not resist at all or who use other selfprotection strategies (the body of evidence is reviewed in Kleck 1997, pp. 170-175). In recent years, it has become increasingly rare that critics dispute the claim that DGU is effective."

https://www.saf.org/wp-content/uploads/journals/JFPP11.pdf

2/20/2015 1:28:54 AM

haha, gunshow loophole. you fuckshits still use that line?

2/20/2015 8:39:56 AM

http://wvmetronews.com/2015/02/18/pharmicist-shoots-would-be-robbery/

2/20/2015 8:51:48 AM

^ hahahaha keep on fightin' the good fight!

2/20/2015 12:41:14 PM

lol just realized that was posted earlier

2/20/2015 3:33:33 PM

Quote :

" that's where the "gun show" part of "gun show loophole" comes in, it puts the onus on show organizers and local officials to make sure the wrong people aren't buying guns, it also provides incentives for local authorities to enforce these laws."

Dude, FFLs have to play by the same rules they always do. They don't get to just go nuts and do whatever at guns shows. Private sellers also play by the same rules they always do at guns shows, which is that they can sell a gun without all the background check stuff as long as they have no reason to believe the buyer can't legally make the purchase. Gun shows have fucking nothing to do with anything. I mean, you could make private sellers have to do FFL transfers while attending a gun show, and then hardly any of them would sell anything at a gun show-they'd do it outside of gun shows, which is how the great majority of private sales happen anyway (I think that gun shows are overwhelmingly populated by FFLs as it is, anyway). It wouldn't accomplish anything.

You could (in theory) make ALL gun sales have to go through an FFL, but good fucking luck with passing that, and that absolutely would have the problems I mention, and they would not be at all surmountable.

The only thing I can think of that would be useful is what I posted the first time:

I mean, if you wanted to give everyone, not just FFLs, access to the background check hotline, and could do it in such a way that it didn't endanger people's privacy, and then required all sellers, private or FFL, to check the background of the buyer, then I'd go for that I think. It wouldn't be easily enforceable; you'd have to rely on people following the law, but it would be a tool that would help scrupulous sellers, at least.

That, and maybe some sort of shall-issue purchase-permit system kind of like what NC has for handguns. That maybe could be workable, but it's also a slippery slope that I'd be wary of, at best.

2/20/2015 9:34:00 PM

they could call it the private sale loophole

2/20/2015 9:36:51 PM

[Edited on February 20, 2015 at 11:09 PM. Reason : .]

2/20/2015 10:43:24 PM

https://www.full30.com/video/831456b75ab37606c8109979af417e3e

Quote :

"You see how he shot the robber once and wasn't unloading on him. Then what did the robber do? He started shooting. This is why the police unload their weapons on you and don't "only need to shoot you one time". So you go down the first time and they don't need to shoot again. A lot of people could benefit from this video"

2/23/2015 7:49:50 PM

http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/04/05/gun-toting-good-samaritan-thwarts-carjacking-georgia-car-wash

4/5/2015 7:06:57 PM

You people are awful. And scared. It's probably crazier how scared you all are.

[Edited on April 5, 2015 at 10:00 PM. Reason : You don't have to be scared anymore. It's ok, little one. ]

4/5/2015 9:58:28 PM

^Projection is a classic mental defense when you have irrational insecurities...

4/5/2015 10:29:42 PM

lol gunzz is old as fuck

4/6/2015 10:12:34 AM

http://woundedamericanwarrior.com/liberal-has-panic-attack-at-sight-of-shopper-with-gun-in-target-2/#

4/6/2015 12:52:43 PM

Well, at least she didn't attack him.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/man-shopping-for-coffee-creamer-at-walmart-attacked-by-vigilante-for/2214432

4/6/2015 4:42:38 PM

http://gawker.com/15-year-old-shot-in-head-after-throwing-pebbles-at-frie-1705426816

5/19/2015 12:22:02 PM

When everyone has a gun everyone is the enemy.

5/19/2015 12:36:26 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvW_zBvJlsA

Cops freak out at "some people" expressing their constitutional rights.

[Edited on May 19, 2015 at 12:40 PM. Reason : ]

5/19/2015 12:39:16 PM

man, this thread is up to the 4's in accounts of good guys with guns

5/19/2015 1:05:23 PM

http://gawker.com/5-injured-in-accidental-shooting-at-waldorf-astoria-1711219896

6/14/2015 11:14:05 AM

OP should have named this thread 'dumbasses with guns" given the links he posts

6/14/2015 11:25:07 AM

6/14/2015 2:01:26 PM

Sorry I was late on this one

http://www.wral.com/shooting-in-downtown-charleston-south-carolina/14722979/

6/19/2015 2:30:07 PM

set em up--->

6/19/2015 2:56:36 PM