"Bill aims to cover up topless rallies"
http://www.wral.com/bill-aims-to-cover-up-topless-rallies/12049495/

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"Specifically, the bill adds to the definition of "private parts" that may not be shown in public the "nipple, or any portion of the areola, of the human female breast." ... it was aimed at events like an annual topless rally in Asheville."

For the record, I'm all for letting women go topless anywhere men can go topless.

1/31/2013 5:55:17 PM

Christ, the NC GOP is going at it full-bore.

1/31/2013 6:02:00 PM

^In all fairness, this was a priority to get done on their 2nd day in session, I mean the annual rally in August is right around the corner!

At least they did it during a regular session, rather than calling a special session that costs 10s of thousands of dollars a day to run to double ban gay marriage like they did last time.

1/31/2013 6:10:36 PM

They probably realize their days are numbered and have to ram things through ASAP.

the dems need to be this way nationally...

1/31/2013 6:47:40 PM

They're definitely painting themselves as the party of liberty, personal responsibility, and freedom right now...

1/31/2013 7:01:40 PM

Jesus, the NCGA and McCrony are truly iniquitous.

1/31/2013 8:28:04 PM

They're working on an anti-tanning bill too:

http://www.wral.com/youthful-glow-to-fade-under-proposed-tanning-bed-rules/12050076/

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"House Bill 18 would bar anyone younger than 18 from using a tanning bed unless they first obtained a physician's prescription. Parental consent wouldn't even be enough to allow a youth to tan, if the proposal is approved."

It may or may not be a good idea, but it's also a step in the direction of behavior regulation on their 2nd day back.

1/31/2013 8:57:09 PM

Hey it sounds like a great way to get teenage girls involved in politics

1/31/2013 9:20:45 PM

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"calling a special session that costs 10s of thousands of dollars a day to run to double ban gay marriage"

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"may not be shown in public the "nipple...of the human female breast." ... it was aimed at events like an annual topless rally..."

Wait, I'm lost. Are these Republicans gayer than AIDS (anti boob), aids to the gays (stubbornly committing long-term political hari-kari), or anti-gay?


^^ Exactly. We don't need to make everything that's a bad idea illegal.

[Edited on January 31, 2013 at 9:24 PM. Reason : ]

1/31/2013 9:23:49 PM

you liberals make me laugh, you want to dictate every facet of my fucking life from wearing a seatbelt, healthcare, firearms...the list goes on, and on, and on.

then, when a conservative proposes a bill making it illegal to SHOW YOUR TITS IN PUBLIC you want to whine like the republicans and evil pat mccrory are the only ones wanting to tell people how to do things.

1/31/2013 10:03:49 PM

tits can put an eye out

1/31/2013 10:05:15 PM

^^ Defending Republicans at the expense of tits is really gay

1/31/2013 10:12:37 PM

^^^

Wearing a seat belt and healthcare aren't liberal things, and nothing so far has been done to your firearms (obama has loosened restrictions and heralded windfalls for the gun companies).

Meanwhile, republicans are passing constitutional amendments to enshrine religious based restrictions on people's personal lives, and pass laws to subtly (or not so subtly) further push a religious-based agenda on nannying people.

[Edited on January 31, 2013 at 10:13 PM. Reason : Cliwns]

1/31/2013 10:12:49 PM

Yup, us liberals really crossed the line with that whole seatbelt thing.

Oh wait:

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"On July 11, 1984, then U.S. Secretary of Transportation Elizabeth Dole issued the occupant crash protection Standard 208, which aimed to reduce fatalities through enactment of seat belt laws or the introduction of passive restraints such as air bags. "

1/31/2013 10:14:08 PM

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"Wearing a seat belt and healthcare aren't liberal things"

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"Meanwhile, republicans are passing constitutional amendments to enshrine religious based restrictions on people's personal lives, and pass laws to subtly (or not so subtly) further push a religious-based agenda on nannying people."

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"Yup, us liberals really crossed the line with that whole seatbelt thing. "

these points are irrelevant, because you are making them as if this bill will only appeal to republicans. wearing a seatbelt is a bill supported by members of both parties, as i'm sure this bill will be, too. i lean heavily libertarian. i am well-aware that the republican party as a whole has lost all sight of what being a traditional conservative even means. but to single out just the republicans as having an agenda of "nannying people"? right.

[Edited on January 31, 2013 at 10:20 PM. Reason : .]

1/31/2013 10:20:35 PM

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"Wearing a seat belt and healthcare aren't liberal things"

healthcare most certainly primarily is.

1/31/2013 10:22:56 PM

Eh. The political divide on health care seems to be centered on who pays for it.

[Edited on January 31, 2013 at 10:28 PM. Reason : grammar are difficult ]

1/31/2013 10:24:08 PM

Democrats and Republicans both want some version of a nanny state. Depending on what you're willing to stomach, kinda dictates which side you fall on.

1/31/2013 10:26:22 PM

^^^

Nixon and Gingrich (and he broader GOP) were big proponents of healthcare reform. It wasn't until Obama that republicans became very anti healthcare, and even then, their revisions served to make the bill more corporatist, their concerns were never on promoting liberty (and you could easily argue having healthcare promotes risk taking an enhances life rather than restricting people).

[Edited on January 31, 2013 at 10:29 PM. Reason : ]

1/31/2013 10:29:16 PM

You cannot seriously believe that the GOP has only become against gov't healthcare since President Obama. Really?

1/31/2013 10:56:01 PM

What people don't realize is that this could be a killer for women that breast feed, where your boobs are exposed in public very frequently. I think that it is an over reaction for sure.

1/31/2013 11:49:55 PM

Women breast feed all time where I live and I have mixed feelings.

[Edited on February 1, 2013 at 12:02 AM. Reason : In public]

2/1/2013 12:02:14 AM

^^^ that's the reality.

Even Rand Paul will defend social security and medicare in front of the right cameras.

2/1/2013 12:10:25 AM

^^^ The text of the bill explicitly exempts breast feeding.

2/1/2013 12:31:31 AM

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"Women breast feed all time where I live and I have mixed feelings."

Why? Why do you care?

2/1/2013 10:03:15 AM

Yea, wondering if that means mixed feelings about the bill affecting breastfeeding in public, or mixed feelings on women breastfeeding in public in general.

This law specifically exempts breastfeeding, so it has no bearing on it. If you have an issue with women breastfeeding in public, then deal with that on your own.

2/1/2013 10:21:44 AM

More to the point, why do you think your opinion should carry any weight on what other people should or should not be allowed to do?

This is the primary problem with America today. Everybody thinks that their opinion and their feelings should be fucking sacrosanct and codified into laws. Most people have fucking idiotic opinions and are generally poorly informed. I include myself in this group, the major difference being that I don't think it's a good idea to use political power and the powers of the state to limit other people's liberty unless it's absolutely necessary to protect my own rights.

2/1/2013 10:25:14 AM

this surely will create jobs.

2/1/2013 11:37:12 AM

Any woman that pulls her big ol' titty out in public to feed her little bastard should at least have the common courtesy to share.

2/1/2013 6:18:08 PM

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"More to the point, why do you think your opinion should carry any weight on what other people should or should not be allowed to do? This is the primary problem with America today. Everybody thinks that their opinion and their feelings should be fucking sacrosanct and codified into laws. Most people have fucking idiotic opinions and are generally poorly informed. I include myself in this group, the major difference being that I don't think it's a good idea to use political power and the powers of the state to limit other people's liberty unless it's absolutely necessary to protect my own rights."

That. People that believe they have some sort of 'right' to not be offended.

2/2/2013 11:22:37 PM

Republicans just don't want to see your ugly ass titties parading around town.

2/3/2013 11:38:06 AM

evil republicans making a law to ensure people wear clothes. those bastards.

2/3/2013 2:14:18 PM

Very Important Things to waste time on, here.

2/4/2013 11:10:40 AM

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"you liberals make me laugh, you want to dictate every facet of my fucking life from wearing a seatbelt, healthcare, firearms...the list goes on, and on, and on. then, when a conservative proposes a bill making it illegal to SHOW YOUR TITS IN PUBLIC you want to whine like the republicans and evil pat mccrory are the only ones wanting to tell people how to do things."

Partisan hackery at its finest.

2/4/2013 12:13:05 PM

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"evil republicans making a law to ensure people wear clothes. those bastards."

do you not see the hypocrisy in this?

"Goernment should not infringe on people's personal lives.... except sometimes, when it should."

2/4/2013 12:14:43 PM

^Shit, on both sides. Dem's want to make cigarettes illegal, but marijuana and other drugs legal. And you can be nude anywhere, including your car, but make sure you have your seatbelt on. And make sure you have to show photo proof to drive, buy a gun, alcohol, or cigarettes. But don't think for a second you should have to do the same when your going to fucking vote. And fuck whatever you want, man, woman, animal, that is all cool too. If you are hetero, don't worry about protection, because if she gets pregnant, just plunger that bitch out. Meanwhile, Republicans don't want to let you have an abortion or prance around with your titties out, but you can have guns anywhere.

2/4/2013 12:25:09 PM

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"Partisan hackery at its finest. "

you need a new gimmick, badly.

go get trolled by jesusH some more.

explain how that is "hackery", btw? it's a valid point in the context of this issue.

[Edited on February 4, 2013 at 12:36 PM. Reason : .]

2/4/2013 12:33:17 PM

I find most conservatives and Republicans to be viscerally disgusting, especially when they open their mouths, can I get them banned in public as well?

Even worse is when they have children, christ I'm about to vomit, we need to outlaw such perverse decadence from our society and bar them from marrying.

2/4/2013 12:35:59 PM

^^don't be mad bro, just try to look at it from a less biased perspective and don't be such a hypocrite.

[Edited on February 4, 2013 at 12:38 PM. Reason : ]

2/4/2013 12:36:07 PM

^so you can't explain, and using the word "hack" over and over just gets your dick hard? k, just making sure.

2/4/2013 12:45:14 PM

i'm just seeing your question that you edited in later, so don't get all uppity like you stumped me or something.

i say "hack", because if you weren't so biased, you'd realize that it is completely hypocritical for a conservative republican, who are supposed to believe that government shouldn't interfere in citizens' personal lives, propose a bill supporting the governments involvement in people's personal lives, and then you go on a straw-man rant against liberals to somehow defend this anti-arealoa bill proposed by republicans. I call you a hack because you seem to support the conservative "team", and oppose the liberal "team", even if it means being a illogical hypocrite.

[Edited on February 4, 2013 at 1:06 PM. Reason : ]

2/4/2013 1:04:22 PM

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"Dem's want to make cigarettes illegal, but marijuana and other drugs legal."

wat?

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"And you can be nude anywhere, including your car, but make sure you have your seatbelt on."

What planet are you from? Who are these "dems"?

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"And make sure you have to show photo proof to drive, buy a gun, alcohol, or cigarettes. But don't think for a second you should have to do the same when your going to fucking vote."

Fair point, but the usual "democrat" response to voter id laws is that they are a solution to a problem that doesn't exist and serve only to disenfranchise people that would likely vote for them. (a claim which has been substantiated by Republicans themselves) Maybe you could address that point instead of whatever insanity you're cooking up here.

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"And fuck whatever you want, man, woman, animal, that is all cool too."

Again, what planet are you from? How can you ascribe pro-bestiality to "democrats"? Also, do you think the government should be arbitrating with whom you have sex?

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" If you are hetero, don't worry about protection, because if she gets pregnant, just plunger that bitch out."

Yes, because if one party has been the champions of safe sex it's Republicans. I watched those fucktards rip pages out of the high school health books.

2/4/2013 1:12:55 PM

My point is, both sides stick their nose into places in our lives that neither belong. Neither party can claim to truly be the party of smaller government. The Republicans want to legislate morality and the Democrats want to legislate social equality. Neither are things that government should exist for, in my opinion.

2/4/2013 1:19:05 PM

^^^your reading comprehension needs help... severely.

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"i say "hack", because if you weren't so biased, you'd realize that it is completely hypocritical for a conservative republican..."

i've said numerous times, even in this thread, that i identify stronger with libertarianism than mainstream republicans. i also never defended the bill outright.

of course, i've already been through my thoughts on the matter, but you were obviously in too much of a hurry to call me names than read the rest of my commentary. the point is not that republicans these days want to mind their own business. rather, i was commenting on the liberal attitude in this thread, which is accusing conservatives of making rules to tell people what to do, how to do it, and what is morally right and wrong, as if the other side doesn't try to dictate these matters themselves. whether i'm a republican myself or not, accusing them of trying to form their own "nanny state" is about as laughable as it gets, assuming the accuser is liberal.

sorry for everyone that had to read my opinion twice, bullet just needs an extra push sometimes.

[Edited on February 4, 2013 at 1:26 PM. Reason : and nighthawk is on the right track]

2/4/2013 1:22:48 PM

^^Well, my point was that a good chunk of things you were attributing to the "side" of Democrat were flat out unsubstantiated. Also, I think the government should exist for equality since businesses/local governments/state governments have historically and repeatedly demonstrated that they will happily discriminate. If the government isn't for the betterment of its constituents, then what is it for?

2/4/2013 1:43:18 PM

^^i just find it odd that as a self-descrbied libertarian, your first instinct is not to criticize this bill and those who propose it, but to intstead start ranting about how liberals are worse.

2/4/2013 1:48:15 PM

^^Democrats support gay marriage and abortion. Animals may have been hyperbole, but the point was still valid. The LGBT community is firmly on the left side of the aisle and wants to have all of the same rights as others. As somebody who doesn't really give a shit either way, I don't care.

Smoking. Well the President did sign the Family Smoking Prevention & Control Act which allows the FDA to regulate the tobacco industry. More government control and intrusion. Not saying its right or not (I don't smoke and hate smoking honestly) but the Democrat president and Democrats in Congress were the sponsors of it.

The nudity was pointing to the people crying about the Republicans putting this bill forward. Most of the ones against it are very liberal/progressive/Democrat.

Seatbelts are required for the good of the people. It is now primary enforcement in many states. I wear mine every time I get in the car and require all of my passengers to do so as well. That said, is it the right of government to require this, and ticket people if they do not?

Safe sex, I don't disagree with you either. Again my point though, we have two extremes. Everything is okay, and nothing is okay. And the government should be there to enforce all of it for either side. Ugh.

[Edited on February 4, 2013 at 2:18 PM. Reason : I hate the Nanny State as much as the Morality Police.]

2/4/2013 2:18:12 PM

Not suprisngly, I heard there's a protest in Carrboro over this bill tonight.

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"Our newly elected governor and state legislature is hard at work."

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"House Bill 34, filed last Thursday, would make it illegal for women to bare their breasts in public anywhere in North Carolina. The bill was filed by two Republican representatives: Rep. Rayne Brown and Rep. Tim Moffitt. My first question for Representatives Brown and Moffit is: how does your proposed breast bill square with your distaste for so called "big government"? Local communities all across our great state should be permitted to set their own standards when it comes to regulating public decency and indecency."

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"My second question for these representatives is: why would you start your terms by tabling legislation that is an affront to the First Amendment? Representatives Brown and Moffit claim to zealously advocate for the US Constitution, and yet this bill creates a slippery slope because it could easily be interpreted in an overly broad manner by police, prosecutors, or others who are tasked with enforcement. There is a wide range of artistic expression and creative work that traditionally may include glimpses of the human form, including the female breast. For example, North Carolina should be proud of our long legacy of nurturing the performing arts, including dance, dramatic arts, and filmmaking. If a dramatic work or dance is being performed in "public" at an outdoor festival, must the local officials arrest a performer whose costume allows a glimpse of breasts. If a film or TV production is being shot by a Wilmington studio in a public location, will this law be rigidly applied?"

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"Finally, my last question for these representatives is: don't you have anything better to do with your time and your legislative power? You were elected by your constituency to solve real problems, and there is no shortage of genuine crises facing our state. "

2/12/2013 4:15:58 PM

I recently saw a hilarious thread in chit chat about that painting.

2/12/2013 4:22:13 PM

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/14/nc-lawmaker-women-should-duct-tape-nipples-to-stay-out-of-jail/

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"NC lawmaker: Women should ‘duct tape’ nipples to stay out of jail North Carolina Republican state Rep. Tim Moore says that women can protect themselves from a new law that makes baring female breasts illegal by simply applying duct tape to their nipples. On Wednesday, the state House Judiciary Committee C approved House Bill 34, which makes it a Class H felony"

2/14/2013 6:57:19 PM