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""Northside ISD is harnessing the power of radio frequency identification technology (RFID) to make schools safer, know where our students are while at school, increase revenues, and provide a general purpose “smart” ID card. Parents entrust us with their children and expect that we always know where their children are; this technology will help us do that." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/05/school-id-tracking-chips-_n_1861049.html "

Of course, infowars (omg infowars) interviews one of the parents.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S44pvFUIKhE



It should scare you that infowars and real news are starting to meld together.

[Edited on September 7, 2012 at 1:10 PM. Reason : .]

9/7/2012 1:09:59 PM

Quote :

"Lunch Line Palm Scanners Serve Up Controversy In Pearl"

http://www.wapt.com/Lunch-Line-Palm-Scanners-Serve-Up-Controversy-In-Pearl/-/9157628/9743914/-/rvjnpsz/-/index.html#ixzz25r1R0xRx

9/8/2012 1:45:00 AM

Why did you underline increased revenues?

9/9/2012 1:45:31 PM

Schools aren't meant to compete for revenues. They are there to teach children, not track them. They are there for people who want to learn, not hold them prisoner and force information into their heads.

9/9/2012 1:55:22 PM

Do you know what revenues they're talking about?

9/9/2012 1:57:55 PM

Yes. Do you?

9/9/2012 1:58:55 PM

I do, but I want to make sure we're on the same page.

What revenues are they talking about?

9/9/2012 2:00:13 PM

First off, there are a plethora of revenues that can be affected by this.

The first and foremost is the attendance revenues they get from the Federal Government.

9/9/2012 2:05:27 PM

You disagree with the idea that school funding should in some way be based on attendance?

9/9/2012 2:09:52 PM

No, I disagree with the method they are using to increase funding.

9/9/2012 2:14:35 PM

What methods of tracking school attendance would be acceptable to you?

9/9/2012 2:22:39 PM

Count the number of students in the school in first bell.

Add that number up throughout the school year divided by the number of days = average attendance.

9/9/2012 2:37:34 PM

Isn't that what they're doing? Counting students?

What about this particular method bothers you?

9/9/2012 2:52:53 PM

No it's not what they are doing. I'm getting frustrated that this elementary topic is eluding your college level education.

9/9/2012 2:54:47 PM

What are they doing, then?

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Your frustration with others' inability to divine your thoughts on a topic can be readily addressed by posting commentary along with quoted news articles and links. Also, you're probably in the wrong place if you're easily offended at the idea of someone asking you to articulate your thoughts.

9/9/2012 3:18:27 PM

Those questions can be answered by yourself. You don't need me to explain it to you. You are simply being lazy and I won't stand for it.

9/9/2012 3:38:53 PM

There is no way for me to know what you're thinking. That's why I asked:

What about this particular method bothers you?

9/9/2012 3:41:50 PM

Daily attendance over the year actually doesn't determine school funding in a lot of places.

That's why there are specific periods that they run advertisements and send out truancy officers to try to get kids to come to school.

^Yes, I'd also like to know what the objection is.

[Edited on September 9, 2012 at 3:45 PM. Reason : ]

9/9/2012 3:45:04 PM

I'm answering your questions because I trust you are genuinely asking my opinion. Please do not abuse my trust because I'm answering these questions against my personal feelings that you're not attempting to understand how these new powers can be abused.


The answer to your question is: It is a glaring violation of our essential liberties and freedoms. There is strict control and tracking of your every move using RFID/

If you allow this in our schools, that means you have no objection for this technology in the workplace.

Once it is allowed in schools and the workplace, it gives the government free will pick up the technology for government use against the people.

You can argue that this "tracking" is already being used by telephone and GPS tracking, but the difference is, you have the choice to not carry a phone. I'm powerless to turn this off AND use the service, nonetheless.

In the case of the RFID, the student MUST have their ID or they get no food or drink access and no access to resources like the library. Imagine America where they can control you so much that they can determine whether you can buy food or drink or use resources. If you allow it, they will do it.

Virtually everything in the book 1984 written in 1949 is coming true and all it took was time and a piece-wise incremental plan removing of our liberty over a relatively (based on the duration of human life) long period of time.

[Edited on September 9, 2012 at 4:02 PM. Reason : .]

9/9/2012 4:00:31 PM

You're a little late to the party.

This technology already exists everywhere. Every employer I've had since college has used some flavor of proximity card. Apartment complexes use them to access common areas. NCSU uses them to control after-hours building access. Businesses use them to optimize supply chains and reduce retail shrinkage. RFID tags are embedded in toll road passes, clothes, passports, IDs, consumer products, tickets, and credit cards.

RFID tags are ubiquitous. Not in your imagined future, but right now.

What do you suggest we do about it?

9/9/2012 4:52:17 PM

If you already know the answers, I'm just going to stop talking. I'm serious about this.

9/9/2012 5:05:14 PM

Do.

9/9/2012 5:25:39 PM

9/9/2012 5:48:21 PM

In the age of information, ignorance is a choice.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um2yLKKVEts&feature=player_embedded#!

9/9/2012 5:52:27 PM

I'm not convinced ignorance is a choice for someone who 'speaks' almost exclusively by reposting the thoughts of others.

9/9/2012 6:03:51 PM

Education has everything to do with reposting thoughts of others. Not just any thoughts, but true thoughts. Ghandi, Martin Luther King, Lincoln, Jefferson, Leeuwenhoek, Socrates, Plato, Shakespeare, Aristotle, Bohr...


Every time you type a character on a keyboard, you are reposting someone else's thought.
Every time you add, subtract, multiply, divide, use algebra, use calculus, use newton's laws, einstein's theory of relativity, you are reposting someone else's thoughts.

Fuck! Shit. You are so far UNEDUCATED when it comes to reality that I don't think you're salvageable. You are junk in a river of ignorance.

[Edited on September 9, 2012 at 6:16 PM. Reason : h]

9/9/2012 6:13:16 PM

What you just described is rote memorization.

Your ability to cut-and-paste the thoughts of others is not a sign of intelligence or education, a fact evidenced by your total inability to engage in any sort of discussion.

9/9/2012 6:28:38 PM

You're engaging me right now and I called your shenanigans halfway up the page. You're not here to learn because your questions are too simple.

9/9/2012 6:40:11 PM

Me telling you you're stupid is not an engaging discussion.

What shenanigans did you call?

9/9/2012 6:41:51 PM

This conversation right now is stupid.

You should learn to stop posting because I will keep posting as long as you do.

[Edited on September 9, 2012 at 6:47 PM. Reason : .]

9/9/2012 6:46:59 PM

You probably have a card in your wallet with RFID.

Your phone will soon have RFID built it.

it's the future. The solution isn't to stop it, but to manage it properly.

We aren't going to be stuck with current era technology forever.

9/9/2012 9:38:00 PM

Quote :

" The solution isn't to stop it, but to manage it properly. "

Like marijuana? oh wait.

9/10/2012 3:03:54 AM

this troll thread has a neon sign on top of it

9/10/2012 6:01:58 PM

Anonymous hacks school board in retaliation for spying on students


Hackers say they are responsible for taking down the website of a Texas school district in retaliation for a mandatory surveillance program students are being told to comply with.

The website for San Antonio’s Northside Independent School District was unavailable at times throughout the weekend and into Monday after hacktivists claiming to be involved with the Anonymous movement waged an attack to draw attention to a controversial new program that requires students to be monitored with tiny Radio Frequency Identification (“RFID”) chips.

Through the Twitter account @RemainSilentz, one self-described participant in Anonymous confirmed that NISD.net was taken offline late Friday.


“DOWN AND OUT – Boom, track my ass like you track children you pervs,” the user wrote.

Two schools in NISD — John Jay High School and Anson Jones Middle School — began asking students earlier this year to carry RFID-equipped identification cards so that educators can monitor their location on school grounds. The school district says tracking students allows for more accurate attendance figures, and therefore better funding. It hasn’t been welcomed with open arms by students, however, and last week a judge had to intervene and issue a temporary restraining order to prevent the principle from Jay High from expelling sophomore Andrea Hernandez for refusing to wear a badge after the school said participation was mandatory.
“We are conditioning kids to live in a surveillance state,” John W. Whitehead, president of The Rutherford Institute, told RT on Friday.

http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-jay-rfid-tracking-639/

11/26/2012 1:46:27 PM

anonymous clearly is a shell of its former glorious self.

11/26/2012 1:53:42 PM

Palm scanners get thumbs up in schools, hospitals

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/11/25/palm-scanners-technology-schools/1726175/

11/26/2012 3:01:36 PM

sweet!

11/26/2012 3:10:22 PM

lol ... did anyone else think of this??

11/26/2012 7:00:08 PM

Why not just make the kids get badges like almost every decent sized company has these days? Just scan your badge on the sensor before going into class.

And don't think this isn't common in the work place, those simple badges along with your network activity can track basically your entire day if the company cares enough.

11/27/2012 11:28:40 PM

Now they have the ability to track you in realtime, at all times, and record it. Why would they switch to something more private if they don't have to.

11/28/2012 12:56:59 AM

Explain how palm scanners allow them to track people in real time and how an RFID badge wouldn't

11/28/2012 7:22:01 AM

Forget tracking people. Why are they wasting money on palm readers? After they buy palm readers they lose all sympathy when they start whining for another billion dollar bond to pass.

11/28/2012 8:17:02 AM

While the cost is possibly the most valid criticism, it seems that logging biometric data of people's children would be a vastly greater concern than tracking kids at school.

It just seems like if I had a kid in public school, I would want them to know where he/she's been, and I would not want them to keep his/her fingerprints on file, which they would then quite likely sell to government and companies.

11/28/2012 8:40:39 AM

Quote :

"Now they have the ability to track you in realtime, at all times, and record it. Why would they switch to something more private if they don't have to."

While I am against this in general, even if they have the data/ability to track you in real time they don't have anywhere near the ability to analyze that data.

11/28/2012 11:51:41 PM

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"While I am against this in general, even if they have the data/ability to track you in real time they don't have anywhere near the ability to analyze that data."

"We noticed a bookbag was missing in Classroom C. Go back to the records and see who was in Classroom C between 2pm and 3pm"

"We noticed someone hiding in the janitor's closet, it's John Anderson from Classroom H."

[Alarm sounds] "A student named Blake Stone from Classroom E entered into a restricted area. Please intercept."

[Alarm sounds] "A student named Harold Mack from Classroom B just left the building. Please intercept."

Why would you have to analyze every second?

11/29/2012 1:34:39 AM

high school is a dictatorship.

its free

you have to sit and listen

you cant leave

the food sucks.

I dont see what the problem with this is. You already have to get a hall pass to be anywhere and sometimes its ok for a teacher to not let a student go pee because something "important" is happening in class.

11/29/2012 8:58:37 AM

^^

Those are bad things?

11/29/2012 9:02:58 AM

If you don't know what the problem is then you're not thinking about freedom and liberty. If you don't like freedom and liberty, there isn't a problem. If you're appeased by total control over your life, then there isn't a problem. You can flush the principles that America was founded on down the toilet.

11/29/2012 9:18:50 AM

Your attempts at being a free-thinker would be a little more compelling if you didn't always fall back on wrapping yourself in the flag and misty-eyed retellings of national mythos.

[Edited on November 29, 2012 at 9:45 AM. Reason : .]

11/29/2012 9:44:36 AM

This is a public school, there is no freedom. You can't go to the restroom if you want and the teacher says no, you can't bring Advil with you, etc

There are far worse things about public schools than tracking their students

11/29/2012 9:49:17 AM