I have been thinking about their Hospitality Management school and have heard some good things. Anybody familiar with the university or it's programs?

11/15/2011 11:35:14 PM

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11/15/2011 11:38:06 PM

there's an even more appropriate 30 rock scene, but i can't find a video of it.

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11/15/2011 11:42:07 PM

I heard it's awesome

You must apply

11/15/2011 11:55:07 PM

My brother in law went there for undergrad and grad school. He was, however in the school of engineering. I know they have awesome acapella groups and very cold winters. Aside from that information, I would probably have to actually ask the BIL...

11/16/2011 1:38:18 AM

If you are going for Hospitality Management and going to pay from your pocket, there is only one place to go:

Switzerland

11/16/2011 3:14:48 AM

I heard they aren't really Ivy League...

11/16/2011 6:21:24 AM

11/16/2011 6:42:38 AM

I met someone who was going there that now runs a b&b/resto in ithaca but i am not sure if they finished the program.

11/16/2011 8:27:25 AM

Ithica is cold.

11/16/2011 9:46:12 AM

Seems like paying six figures in ivy league tuition to run a hotel or whatever is a waste of money.

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11/16/2011 9:58:10 AM

why the hell would someone go to cornell to be a caterer?

11/16/2011 10:56:28 AM

One of my best friends goes there, and actually knows someone who is in that program I think... Apparently it's a great program and obviously Cornell is a good school. I would just be prepared for lots of snows, lots of hipsters, and a totally different atmosphere than what you would expect from the Raleigh area (if that's what you're coming from). But the Cornell campus is beautiful and there is definitely a lot of outdoorsy stuff to do in ithaca!

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11/16/2011 10:59:32 AM

I was looking into this program, and all of my mentors (at 4/5 diamond hotels) really stressed getting some SOLID work experience in before going in order to get the most out of it.

And all of you hating on hospitality have no idea what goes into it.

11/16/2011 3:29:47 PM

IVY LEAGUE STUFF I TELL YA

11/16/2011 3:32:05 PM

not hating on hospitality at all.

This is all about ROI.

The cost of an Ivy league education vs the salary you draw afterwards in this particular industry.

It just doesn't compute.

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11/16/2011 3:37:21 PM

well what would be a good salary for it? me and a grad from this program were both finalists for a job with a salary range of 65,000 - 104,500. he got the job, but i think it was more because he pwned me in experience than the fact that he went to cornell.

11/16/2011 3:50:48 PM

It's pronounced "kernel" and it's the highest rank in the military.

11/16/2011 3:58:39 PM

Well, i'd turn the question around the other way-- the salary is going to be mostly dictated by market forces.

As you stated, the experience was more important than the degree from Cornell.

from cornell's website:

Total Program Budget (12 months): $90,138.50

Even if you come out of it at the midpoint of that salary range making $85k a year, that's a really large student loan payment.

My point is that you can get the same degree from a quality institution for far less. Going Ivy League is overkill unless someone else is paying that tuition bill. That's probably true for most everything that isn't an MBA or JD.

11/16/2011 4:04:44 PM

Does Bernhart(d) still work in the IE department? He will tell you all about Cornell.

11/16/2011 10:42:01 PM

Screw Ivy. Just travel and meet more people with connections. It's who you know.

11/17/2011 12:08:10 AM

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"I would just be prepared for lots of snows, lots of hipstershippies, and a totally different atmosphere than what you would expect from the Raleigh area (if that's what you're coming from). But the Cornell campus is beautiful and there is definitely a lot of outdoorsy stuff to do in ithaca!"

Ithaca has sooooo many great spots to hike and swim in gorges, and it's on a huge lake which is great for sailing and all sorts of other fun things.

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11/17/2011 4:22:31 AM

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"Ithaca has sooooo many great spots to hike and swimcommit suicide in gorges,"

Sadly a popular occurence at the university. Natural beauty aside, the area surrounding the college is super fucking depressing, just ask EMCE. The largest town around is Binghamton, about an hour away, and other than another college the only interesting thing to do there is shopping. they have some vast strip malls. Outside of the liberal, relatively wealthy sphere of influnce of the colleges (there's a girl's school on the other hill), the people tend to be poor and relatively uneducated. A long-time resident described them as "backwoods hicks." Surely that's not true of everyone, but still, be prepared for a definite small-town atmosphere.

Oh, and be in shape, or you will be when you leave. The university area is built on a 70° slope. The campus itself is a bit flatter, but all of the off-campus student housing is located downhill and away. Parking sucks for both the housing and the university, and there isn't real bus service, so you'll walk a lot, in the snow half the time. Get boots. The streets around the university are lined with restaurants. There's a nice area of small shops and restaurants at the base of the hill and the edge of downtown called the Ithaca commons, with many of the popular bars on the surrounding streets, and a tiny mall on the outskirts of town. Othewise, a target and a wegmans will have to suffice for your daily needs.

You're sure to learn a lot about vegetarian food while you're there. One of the original vegetarian institutions, the Moosewood Restaurant, is still operational downtown, though they seemed to be serving fish and maybe poultry last time I was there. There's plenty of other vegetarian places around, and probably people who want to talk to you about vegetarianism. The ultimate veggie hippie grocery store, Greenstar Grocery, is located downtown near the Greyhound bus station. They have good prepared food and produce, too, which sucks at the wegman's.

As far as the gorges go, Buttermilk Falls and Robert H. Treman are probably the best of them. You can go swimming in a 60°, waterfall-fed pool at Treman in the summer. Whee!

11/17/2011 1:02:37 PM

Taken @ Treman:

11/17/2011 3:02:06 PM