http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/07/31/2493192/praised-teacher-program-gets-the.htmlThis...this is just turrible. NC solidifies just how much it doesn't care about teachers.
8/1/2011 8:15:57 AM
This current state legislature has shown over and over that they don't give two shits about education in this state. It's a shame because that education is what makes us able to draw in companies like SAS and Cisco
8/1/2011 8:20:06 AM
Even worse, one of arguments as to why to axe it was that even though it works, 'a majority' of the fellows didn't teach at 'at risk' or 'under-privileged' schools and therefor not using the full potential of the fellows program. Weak argument if you ask me. Not to mention both my girlfriend and Brian Whitson mentioned in this article teach at Salisbury High which is considered an 'at risk' school.
8/3/2011 3:19:53 PM
Just the tip of the iceberg, folks. Can't wait til they start cutting back on things I actually need.[Edited on August 3, 2011 at 3:28 PM. Reason : .]
8/3/2011 3:28:07 PM
who careswhat has a teacher ever done for me?
8/3/2011 3:54:13 PM
^^^I thought the Fellows program specifically told you were to go?I mean are they saying "We fail at governing our own program so we're going to can it"?[Edited on August 3, 2011 at 3:54 PM. Reason : why do the fucking idiots get elected]
8/3/2011 3:54:16 PM
8/3/2011 3:56:16 PM
Nope,you can get a job anywhere in any PUBLIC North Carolina school and have 7 years to teach the 4 years required to not pay back the loans.
8/3/2011 3:59:00 PM
Half of all teachers are amongst the bottom half of teachers. Maybe if we got some instructors who actually cared about teaching instead of giving them an incentive to do a job they never really wanted to do, we will get some teachers who are worth a damn.
8/3/2011 4:09:56 PM
^ I'm guessing you don't know the process students have to go through to become a teaching fellow. They don't just hand them out to any old Joe. It's highly competitive and you need to show a strong interest in teaching to get it.
8/3/2011 4:11:40 PM
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8/3/2011 4:15:55 PM
Thanks Matt Damon. Idiot. He obviously knows. He played an abused kid, onceMaybe teachers can't do anything else because they suck.
8/3/2011 4:21:34 PM
Your experience with them is anecdotal. True, they were unable to make you any smarter after pre-school, I won't argue that.
8/3/2011 4:34:26 PM
this makes me
8/3/2011 5:20:34 PM
No exactly the same but http://www.teachforamerica.org/ is still there.
8/3/2011 6:04:09 PM
8/3/2011 6:26:48 PM
good riddance. my high school was riddled with teaching fellows teachers, and they made it painfully obvious that they didn't give a shit about teaching kids out in bumfuck and were only doing it because they were required to.
8/3/2011 8:04:39 PM
I'm afraid that I have been unimpressed as well.If it actually has recruited minorities to the teaching profession, then I think that's great. But, of the ones that I know, they are white and middle class (they don't really need a free ride). They tend to emphasize how prestigious it is and how they don't really want to teach. If some of them stick around after four years of teaching though, that's great.But maybe all that stuff is just an act. Maybe they really do wanna teach and whatnot, but they're embarrassed because they don't think it's ambitious enough or cool enough or something. I know they're trying to add prestige to the profession, but it seems like they've really only been able to add prestige to the people who are teaching fellows.[Edited on August 3, 2011 at 8:54 PM. Reason : GIS reveals that lots of the non-white NCTFs go to HBCUs, but they do exist!]
8/3/2011 8:30:42 PM
8/3/2011 9:03:31 PM
^Yeah, I know a dude with a similar story. He was still smart and all that stuff of course.Anyway, I think it's easier if you're a male. Not necessarily easier, but you know, they need males.[Edited on August 3, 2011 at 9:33 PM. Reason : ]
8/3/2011 9:27:06 PM
^Not to mention his Teaching Fellow roommate was a guy that openly professed to be a vampire, and apparently had a record for stealing or something strange.Not saying that Teaching Fellows isn't a good program or that all applicants are jokes, but it's not a stupidly impressive thing to win. In the later years it seems more based on if you want to get the Fellowship and are willing to "serve the time", not necessarily that you fought tooth and nail for it in some highly competitive pool.EDIT: Ended up being a bad choice for my brother too. I currently get as much need-based and academic grants from NCSU/FAFSA as he gets scholarship money from Teaching Fellows, and FAFSA would basically have panned out the same for him as me. [Edited on August 4, 2011 at 1:26 AM. Reason : f]
8/4/2011 1:24:43 AM
8/4/2011 1:30:58 AM
If the state was desperate for teachers, just wait til they don't have comtracted slaves.
8/4/2011 1:36:33 AM
There are many, many unemployed teachers in this State with bachelors and even masters degrees that aren't being hired.It's a perfectly prudent thing to stop the program until the employment market shores up. It kills two birds with one stone - stopping the mass influx of recently graduated teachers who just end up working at Kohls, and saving tons of money in the process.Taking away free college education program =/= not caring about teachers. If someone still wants to be a teacher, they are able to do so. So I don't understand why this is turrible...
8/4/2011 2:07:17 AM
^^^^Yeah, I read it's only a $6500/year scholarship, and they make you pay for some of the extra enrichment activities out of that.^Yeah. That was another crazy thing I read. Teaching fellows weren't getting hired (in the counties of their choice) so they gave up and started paying back the loan (plus interest) since they were "on the fence" about it anyway.One guy was claiming that the interest on these loans used to cover the cost of everybody else's loans. If that's true, then it means the sixty percent that are still teaching is a figure taken out of the ones who actually went on to teach, not the total program. That Ron Clark guy said he never intended to actually teach when he got it. One friend of mine still hasn't started teaching yet--he's already earned one masters and begun working on another one.[Edited on August 4, 2011 at 5:18 AM. Reason : ]
8/4/2011 5:17:43 AM
8/4/2011 7:23:44 AM
Well damn, I've certainly learned more from this thread
8/4/2011 8:24:23 AM
too bad it didnt get the ax before the morons i know were awarded it.
8/4/2011 10:45:34 AM
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8/4/2011 12:18:45 PM
Be rational. Teachers are required to teach what north carolina makes them. It is not their responsibility to make sure Joe Bob and all 50 Jennifers are keeping it in. That being said, I think teachers are actually overpaid for what they do. They know day for day what they are REQUIRED to teach and all you hear about is lesson planning and taking home work, etc. I would take home work, gladly, if I only had to work 4.5 hours out of the day. Cry babies. Teaching fellows only have themselves to blame for the loss of the program. As for the vampire, he would have made an interesting teacher!
8/4/2011 1:07:54 PM
Man, I wish I had only worked 4.5 hours when I was a teacher. That would have been sweet as hell
8/4/2011 4:39:19 PM
OVERPAID?! fuck you. if you think teachers only work 4.5 hours a day, you've clearly never been to public school. and yes, it is the teacher's responsibility to make sure joe bob and jennifer retain what is taught. lesson planning is completely necessary - not all children learn the same way. you fucking idiot.
8/4/2011 6:16:21 PM
^ don't feed the troll... he's really just an ass in every thread.
8/4/2011 6:21:31 PM
Yeah don't feed the troll, especially not in lounge. He set his bait way too fast.
8/4/2011 10:01:58 PM
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