I'm trying to decide who to help raise money once it all starts goin down.

NOBAMA!

2/8/2011 10:10:50 AM

Perhaps you could come up with a campaign parody of your classic "Jamming on the hot," or whatever it was called.

2/8/2011 10:13:28 AM

i dont know what that has to do with elections

2/8/2011 10:15:44 AM

You want to support a candidate, I thought a catchy song would help. But if you don't think it would then perhaps you should just stick to handing out funds from your no-doubt substantial war chest.

2/8/2011 10:22:03 AM

i actually have a busness unlike you obviously, and its going to the top. thats not in doubt. already got big things happening.

2/8/2011 10:31:48 AM

I think I'll vote for Obama

2/8/2011 10:32:53 AM

Ron Paul

2/8/2011 10:34:19 AM

Did I say otherwise? I even went so far as to say there is "no doubt" as to your claims. But I still maintain that you should do a song to help whatever candidate you endorse lure the minority vote away from Obama. "Jammin' on the Palin," by the way, has a much better ring to it than "Jammin' on the Huckabee."

2/8/2011 10:34:31 AM

won't know until the nominations.

i was all set to vote McCain until they put a mentally challenged person on the ticket.

if forced to guess, given that we have a congress trending Republican, i will likely vote Obama and hope for gridlock & ensuing prosperity similar to the late 90s.

2/8/2011 12:35:30 PM

On a classic episode of The Cosby Show featuring Stevie Wonder, Stevie asks Theo, after the Huxtable Family has visited him in the recording studio, "Theo, what's the first thing you'd say to a girl at a party?" Theo squeakily responds, "Jammin' on the one." Ever the innovator, Stevie uses Theo's line, along with lines from the rest of the family, for a spontaneously created musical composition. For all its ridiculousness, its a great scene. But its always tortured me. "Jammin' on the one." What the fuck does that mean? And how the fuck could it impress any girl anywhere? Jammin' on the one...

2/8/2011 12:39:26 PM

The severity with which some people are lashing out against Obama while at the same time Obama has been so amazingly cordial to everyone almost makes me want to go campaign for him.

I'm not pro-Obama

But I'm anti-NOBAMA

2/8/2011 12:41:03 PM

If the Republican ticket is awful, but has a chance of winning, I'll vote Obama.

Otherwise, I have no idea who I'll vote for.

2/8/2011 12:43:26 PM

Quote :

"I'm not pro-Obama But I'm anti-NOBAMA "

Quote :

"If the Republican ticket is awful again, but has a chance of winning, I'll vote Obama"

2/8/2011 12:58:40 PM

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!

2/8/2011 1:10:38 PM

I really would have rather not voted for Obama in 08, but really... you saw who he was running against right?

I reckon next time might be the same. Only Romney might be mild enough for me to not care.

[Edited on February 8, 2011 at 1:11 PM. Reason : ]

2/8/2011 1:11:13 PM

Quote :

"If the Republican ticket is awful, but has a chance of winning, I'll vote Obama."

This.

I suppose it's possible that the Republicans will field someone good, but most of the current offerings do not appeal to me. The idea of voting for a democratic president is less than appealing to me, but unless the tea party runs its own separate candidate (leaving a human being to run as republican) that seems likely.

2/8/2011 1:59:41 PM

myself

[Edited on February 8, 2011 at 2:47 PM. Reason : ]

2/8/2011 2:47:02 PM

Mickey Mouse

2/8/2011 2:51:20 PM

0BAMA 'O12

2/8/2011 3:04:55 PM

Quote :

"I suppose it's possible that the Republicans will field someone good, but most of the current offerings do not appeal to me. The idea of voting for a democratic president is less than appealing to me, but unless the tea party runs its own separate candidate (leaving a human being to run as republican) that seems likely."

Just picking your brain here since I respect your opinion pretty well as someone who's willing to be critical of his own "team", but what are you looking for in a GOP candidate to back?

I look at someone like Jon Huntsman and see someone who probably has the capacity to be a pretty good president that stays in the middle through good diplomacy with both parties. This was something you saw even Reagan do, though today's GOP will never admit that. It makes one politically successful, but the middle isn't always where the good policies are, imo. Tacking to our political center gave us tax cuts that weren't paid for.

Of course, in him I also see someone that the activists despise.

For now, I actually think Obama is doing a decent job and I'll vote for him. I'm not petulant enough to demand a primary challenger (and any possible challenger is likely to be insane, a Neanderthal, or probably both).

2/8/2011 3:36:03 PM

I think I did this right. I might have the middle 50% flipped but I think it still makes sense. Basically that all the GOP candidates are closer to the extreme end of their ideology if they're pushing moderate conservatives to Obama.

2/8/2011 11:12:50 PM

I'm not gonna vote cause the world is gonna end that December...

2/8/2011 11:13:29 PM

I probably won't vote.

Again.

2/8/2011 11:22:57 PM

Obama/Clinton

Be prepared to bump this.

2/8/2011 11:36:37 PM

I've come to the awful realization that the GOP nominee will be whatever the Fox machine determines it will be.

2/8/2011 11:46:28 PM

Pawlenty has gotten back up on his I'll bring back DADT if you elect me horse again.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/08/goproud-tim-pawlenty-dadt_n_820302.html

Quote :

"Here's the statement from Chris Barron, chairman of the board at GOProud, relayed by AMERICAblog: I understand that Pawlenty is trying hard to get people to pay attention to his campaign. Its certainly a challenge for someone with such little stature in the conservative movement to compete with high profile conservative leaders like Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Herman Cain, etc. Unfortunately for Pawlenty, comments like this simply show how totally out-of-touch he is with the issues that rank and file conservatives care about"

Poor Pawlenty.

2/9/2011 12:08:58 AM

Quote :

"Just picking your brain here since I respect your opinion pretty well as someone who's willing to be critical of his own "team", but what are you looking for in a GOP candidate to back? "

Most of all I want someone who ignores the hot-button go-to issues that Republicans love to grab at. Abortion's here to stay. Get over it. The same is true for DADT repeal. Even when the democrats controlled the government they weren't trying to steal your guns, so don't start flipping out about that, either. If you're going to fight the healthcare bill, do so because of practical problems, not because "socialist" sounds scary. And for God's sake, take a real conservative, free market stance on immigration -- or at least quit trying to distract us with scary Mexicans.

Beyond that, there's a whole laundry list of specific policies I favor or oppose, but simply standing on principle rather than a pile of fear and political expediencies would be enough for me.

2/9/2011 12:29:56 AM

Now would seem to be the time to begin mobilizing behind a viable third party candidate.

Sadly, there are few options at this time from which to choose.

If a third party candidate has any chance of success, efforts would need to already be underway.

By the time any third party candidate has risen to vie for the candidacy of President, time will have drawn too narrow to affect any substantial outcome.

Perhaps corporate news will provide us some input in order for us to achieve this goal...

2/9/2011 1:56:26 AM

I am 90% certain that I will be voting for Obama.

But i'm curious to see who emerges from the clusterfuck GOP primaries. My guess is that voters will reject the re-treads like Romney, Palin, Huckabee, Newt, etc., and jump at a new face like Huntsman or another relative outsider.

As I said in another thread, I think some of the "rising stars" of the GOP, if you can call them that, guys with conservative street cred like Christie, Pence and Ryan, are sitting this one out because they know Obama will be very, very hard to beat in '12.

2/9/2011 2:28:00 AM

I would agree with voting for Obama given that the Democrats are likely to lose the Senate and I'd much rather have a government of shared responsibility. I really wish Sarah Palin would run though. She'd make the next two years very entertaining.

2/9/2011 2:38:56 AM

Quote :

"ven that the Democrats are likely to lose the Senate and I'd much rather have a government of shared responsibility"

Going along with your comment, it looks like way more Dems are up for election in 2012. And Webb (D) in VA just announced he's retiring.

2/9/2011 12:21:09 PM

I don't support anyone for president. I think wanting to be president should pretty much exclude you from being allowed to be president. That said, I'll probably vote for whichever candidate the Libertarians put out there.

2/9/2011 12:24:01 PM

^^ Didn't that guy just get elected in 2006? I guess that's admirable, but he seemed like he had his shit together more than most senators do.

2/9/2011 3:15:53 PM

Webb wasn't the sort of person who was thrilled with the arcane processes of the Senate. He wanted to get things done without worrying about proceduring and political brinksmanship. He wasn't interested in the hotly debated issues. He put his head down and made some real big gains in vet's affairs and in reforming the criminal justice system, much more than anyone else has tried to do.

In the end, people want someone who's going to be big and bad and bold on hot button issues. Health care, social issues, war, etc. Webb wasn't one of those people once the Iraq War became secondary. It's too bad, he was a great one.

I guess he could always be the next SoD. He was the Sec. of the Navy at one time.

As for the Senate outlook, I'd say that at least 3 of those seats are gone from the Dems, but they could win them back since Brown is/was a fluke, Ensign is a scuzzbag, and Lugar or Snowe might get primaried by a Teabagger, so all they'd need to do is run someone inoffensive (ala Delaware this past year).

2/9/2011 5:51:58 PM

Quote :

"Going along with your comment, it looks like way more Dems are up for election in 2012. And Webb (D) in VA just announced he's retiring."

http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=604354&page=1#14504486

Democratic incumbents
Dianne Feinstein of California
Tom Carper of Delaware
Bill Nelson of Florida
Daniel Akaka of Hawaii
Ben Cardin of Maryland
Debbie Stabenow of Michigan
Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota
Claire McCaskill of Missouri
Jon Tester of Montana
Ben Nelson of Nebraska
Bob Menendez of New Jersey
Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico
Kirsten Gillibrand of New York
Kent Conrad of North Dakota - RETIRING
Sherrod Brown of Ohio
Bob Casey, Jr. of Pennsylvania
Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island
Jim Webb of Virginia - RETIRING
Maria Cantwell of Washington
Joe Manchin of West Virginia
Herb Kohl of Wisconsin

Independent incumbents (who happen to caucus with Democrats)
Joe Lieberman of Connecticut - RETIRING
Bernie Sanders of Vermont

Republican incumbents
Jon Kyl of Arizona
Richard Lugar of Indiana
Olympia Snowe of Maine
Scott Brown of Massachusetts
Roger Wicker of Mississippi
John Ensign of Nevada
Bob Corker of Tennessee
Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas - RETIRING
Orrin Hatch of Utah
John Barrasso of Wyoming

[Edited on February 9, 2011 at 10:45 PM. Reason : -]

2/9/2011 10:43:57 PM

I feel like Webb is going to jockey for SecDef... but that just might be rumors

2/9/2011 10:49:28 PM

I was thinking that today in the car.

He has the credentials.

2/9/2011 11:16:35 PM

Quote :

"high profile conservative leaders like Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Herman Cain"

I follow politics pretty closely, but I can honestly say that I have never heard that name before

it definitely made me laugh though, so I guess he has that going for him

[Edited on February 10, 2011 at 3:06 AM. Reason : ever with a n]

2/10/2011 2:53:42 AM

Neal Boortz is sad to hear you say that.

2/10/2011 3:46:20 AM

Jon Kyl of Arizona - RETIRING

2/10/2011 5:18:26 PM

I don't think it's possible for us to elect a man named "Herman".

2/10/2011 5:42:32 PM

Herman: No.

Barack Hussein Saetoro Obama: Yes.

You know Herman is ALL-black?

Guess that makes you a racist then.

2/10/2011 7:09:44 PM

Presidents have a history of funny names, like Washington, why does the ton need washing, you know what I mean!

2/10/2011 7:19:27 PM

Quote :

"Presidents have a history of funny names, like Washington, why does the ton need washing, you know what I mean!"

Especially Artemis N. Falkmore.

2/10/2011 8:09:06 PM

Definately Obama, and who knows on the congress

I sort of like the situation now where they keep each other in check

2/10/2011 8:14:19 PM

Quote :

"Presidents have a history of funny names"

Keep Cool with Coolidge

2/11/2011 12:50:36 AM

Another name that hasn't been getting much discussion at all, but is in the running:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/16/santorum-making-tenth-visit-to-south-carolina/

Quote :

"Santorum making tenth visit to South Carolina Washington (CNN) - Rick Santorum's political travels will take him back to the first-in-the-south primary state of South Carolina next week as he prepares for a likely presidential bid. ... Santorum, an unapologetic conservative on social issues, has scheduled a series of private meetings with conservative activists in Greenville, a hub for the state's evangelical community."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Santorum

Quote :

"he is particularly known for his stances on the U.S. invasion of Iraq, Social Security, intelligent design, homosexuality, and the Terri Schiavo case.[3] Santorum was defeated 59% to 41% in the 2006 U.S. Senate election by Democratic candidate Bob Casey, Jr.. ... and is a contributor to Fox News Channel. Santorum is currently considering a bid for president in 2012. ... In 2001, Santorum tried unsuccessfully to insert language which came to be known as the "Santorum Amendment" into the No Child Left Behind bill that sought to promote the teaching of intelligent design"

And his anti-DADT repeal stance wasn't just that he doesn't like gays, it was that it creates separation of church and state which is a bad thing in his opinion:

http://gop12.thehill.com/2010/12/santorum-dadt-about-secularization-of.html

[Edited on February 17, 2011 at 1:25 AM. Reason : .]

2/17/2011 1:24:50 AM

I will be voting for Obama. I cannot think of one possible GOP candidate that is worthy.

2/17/2011 4:17:24 PM

I had a nightmare last night that Michelle Bachmann got nominated. (I know, I should have realized it was a dream right off the bat, then lucid dream hate-fucked her). I immediately decided to vote for Obama and switch my party affiliation.

[Edited on February 17, 2011 at 10:51 PM. Reason : ]

2/17/2011 10:51:01 PM

^Even though he is bringing on the end times?



[Edited on February 17, 2011 at 10:55 PM. Reason : I guess this is just another version of the he's the anti-christ argument from the campaign days]

2/17/2011 10:54:13 PM