... The corporations will still be in control and teabaggers will still fight for the interests of billionaires.

11/2/2010 9:16:40 AM

^suck it





and i just wanted to add this...cuz it's funny






[Edited on November 2, 2010 at 9:19 AM. Reason : d]

11/2/2010 9:19:07 AM

your image link is broken

[Edited on November 2, 2010 at 9:49 AM. Reason : i think it's because you are trying to post it from your gmail account]

11/2/2010 9:48:50 AM

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"https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=ec3ed9224e&view=att&th=12c0cb77316c4a36&attid=0.2&disp=emb&zw"

FUCKING FAIL!

11/2/2010 9:53:02 AM

it was working for me...so w/e

[Edited on November 2, 2010 at 10:09 AM. Reason : d]

11/2/2010 10:09:51 AM

my god, you're fucking stupid.

11/2/2010 10:50:54 AM

...we can immediately begin blaming any and all problems on the Republican-led Congress and start ramping up a new move for Democrats to "take this country back" in 2012.

11/2/2010 11:23:09 AM

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"The corporations will still be in control and teabaggers politicians will still fight for the interests of billionaires."

fixed it for you.


Interesting article on just this subject in the NYT Freakonomics Blog this morning: http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/02/yet-one-more-way-in-which-d-c-is-like-high-school/

[Edited on November 2, 2010 at 11:28 AM. Reason : .]

11/2/2010 11:24:48 AM

Easiest fix is to give us the login to your gmail account, that way we can all see the image

11/2/2010 12:24:22 PM

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"we can immediately begin blaming any and all problems on the Republican led congress"

They have been doing this already, just now it wont be total BS as the republicans will actually have the numbers.

Losing congress gives Obama his second term. Im all for some gridlock.

11/2/2010 12:31:15 PM

I could see Obama getting challenged in the primary. He's unqualified and it's obvious.

11/2/2010 12:39:45 PM

he's right where Clinton was in 1994.

you people act like this is all new.

11/2/2010 12:41:29 PM

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"Losing congress gives Obama his second term."

I touched on this earlier. With a GOP House all but in the bag and with a double-dip recession all but assured, the President looks pretty good for 2012. The GOP cannot vote for another stimulus or they'll be slaughtered in their own primaries. By actively opposing a stimulus, they set themselves up as appearing obstructionist and replace GWB circa 2008 as the foil President Obama so desperately needs to run as an effective candidate.


Just like color episodes of the Andy Griffith show and Pirates of the Carribean II, a protagonist without an anagonist is a weak lead. Barney Fife and Captain Barbossa were the true centers of gravity in the dramatic sense and in the play of politics, the GOP is BHOs center of gravity. Despite his considerable intellect, he has no weight on his own. His positions are ephemeral, his demanor aloof and his rhetoric flat when not juxtaposed against a worthy adversary.

This election all but seals his re-election in 2012 and the Democratic electoral machine owes a debt of gratitude to Glenn Beck and the Tea Party.

11/2/2010 12:43:29 PM

Haha. Seriously man, the similarities between this year and 1994 are superficial. We're in a very different situation, economically.

11/2/2010 12:44:51 PM

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"I could see Obama getting challenged in the primary."

Hahaha...come on dude. Get a grip.

11/2/2010 12:48:59 PM

I don't expect it to happen, but I saw a poll where a pretty good chunk of Democrats would like to see a challenger. Sorry, the leader of your party is incompetent.

11/2/2010 12:55:00 PM

Are you sure it was a poll, d357r0y3r? Are you sure it wasn't... nothing?

11/2/2010 12:56:26 PM

I guarantee that Obama is going to win every state in the primary.

11/2/2010 1:03:47 PM

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"I don't expect it to happen, but I saw a poll where a pretty good chunk of Democrats would like to see a challenger."

I'm sure this was true under George W. Bush. Actually, it's probably true of a lot of presidents. And incompetent? Him disagreeing with you does not equate to a mental deficiency.

11/2/2010 1:03:50 PM

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"the similarities between this year and 1994 are superficial. We're in a very different situation, economically."

You could be right. The economy could be so bad that voters reject both the GOP in the house and the President for an independent (Bloomberg is considering a run, he might be a very strong candidate 4+ years into a depression) . . . but that would be breaking with a precedent of Democrat or Republican that stretches all the way back to 1853, so you can judge the likelihood of that one.

Barring an economic catastrophe (and that isn't something that can be ruled out), I feel like Barack Obama is at his strongest when playing against an emotionally charged opponent and that is precisely what the 112th Congress will provide him.

11/2/2010 1:23:14 PM

He's either incompetent or evil. If he understood economics, his policies would not be what they are. He said Larry Summers did "a heckuva job." I think he's a charismatic guy that got into office because he talks a good game, but he's not a good leader.

11/2/2010 1:26:58 PM

Good point!

11/2/2010 1:37:07 PM

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"He's either incompetent or evil. If he understood economics ... "

yes, it is too bad we elected an evil incompetent stooge who clearly doesnt know anything.

11/2/2010 1:40:18 PM

That almost never happens!

11/2/2010 1:42:51 PM

It's okay guys. Just keep your fingers in your ears and have faith in your dear leader, no matter how many facts you're presented with. YES WE CAN!

11/2/2010 1:54:29 PM

^I hear you brother. I cant wait for the republicans to lead us to the fiscal promised land.

11/2/2010 1:58:54 PM

Mmmmmmm...... Milk and Honey.

11/2/2010 2:04:43 PM

I doubt they will. Some examples of legislative action that can spur growth at this point is tax cuts, cutting government spending, repealing legislation, and providing a stable regulatory environment for businesses. Do I think a Republican congress will do that? Hell no.

11/2/2010 2:05:08 PM

It's okay guy. Just keep your fingers in your ears and have faith in your dear leaders, no matter how many facts you're presented with. TEA BAG! TEA BAG!

11/2/2010 2:06:13 PM

Haha America's gonna deserve exactly what it gets

Lovin' it

11/2/2010 2:15:22 PM

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"with a double-dip recession all but assured"

According to the NBER, if the economy enters another downturn, that would be considered a new recession rather than the second part of a double-dip recession.

11/2/2010 2:34:35 PM

Lifted from WRAL during the primaries from a few years ago:



[Edited on November 2, 2010 at 2:39 PM. Reason : -]

11/2/2010 2:38:18 PM

Cool, let's argue about theoretical inflection points while the economy continues to plunge.

11/2/2010 2:41:28 PM

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"According to the NBER, if the economy enters another downturn, that would be considered a new recession rather than the second part of a double-dip recession."

From an econometric standpoint, yes you are correct.

Right or wrong, the NBER's prounouncements carry little to no weight with voters. From the standpoint of public perception (which is what counts in politics) it would be perceived as a double dip.


Whatever you call it is irrelevant. It could be argued that this recession started in the late days of the WJC administration and was only masked by the colossal defense expenditures of the last decade. The fact of the matter is, if people feel like they're worse off they will be looking for someone to blame and the goal of politicians in 2012 is going to be pinning it on the other guy.

11/2/2010 3:38:34 PM

Following today's election, you'll have talking heads sit around and talk about how this was a game changer election. Just like they did two years ago and every other election before that.

11/2/2010 3:57:11 PM

Manufactured conflict sells.

Goddamned media, whoring out the truth for their cheap ratings. Fuck em.

11/2/2010 4:00:36 PM

This is true and it won't be, just like '94 wasn't, '00 wasn't, '06 wasn't and '08 wasn't. They'll also start talking about how this effects 2012 . . . which of course will be a real game changer.

11/2/2010 4:00:53 PM

Figured this would be a good enough place to mention that all 4 out of the 4 competitive US house races here in VA are going republican according to early indications.

11/2/2010 4:27:31 PM

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"and with a double-dip recession all but assured"

I've seen economic forecasts of the chances of a double-dip being very low at this point.

11/2/2010 4:57:26 PM

IIRC, Nouriel Roubini (one of the few who accurately predicted it in the first place) has said it is increasingly likely.

11/2/2010 5:03:17 PM

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"This is true and it won't be, just like '94 wasn't, '00 wasn't, '06 wasn't and '08 wasn't. They'll also start talking about how this effects 2012 . . . which of course will be a real game changer."

and what we learn here folks is nothing ever really changes the games of politics

11/2/2010 5:16:06 PM

Clinton knew when to roll with the tide in 94. I just can't see Obama doing that. He is invested in his goals while Clinton was a true politician. We'll see.

11/3/2010 4:22:53 AM

^We'll get out first glimpse into that in his speech tomorrow.

11/3/2010 4:33:26 AM

Good letter by Jim DeMint: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704141104575588612828579920.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

11/3/2010 11:21:27 AM

Man I hope these republicans follow through with their rhetoric. I really hope Senator Demint can get his "Gays and Unwed Mothers shouldn't teach at public schools" ideas passed as well. Its the only way America is going to turn the corner!!

[Edited on November 3, 2010 at 11:56 AM. Reason : ..]

11/3/2010 11:56:26 AM

there's something wrong with South Carolina.

11/3/2010 11:58:32 AM

Whether you agree with DeMint on policy or not, that's actually a pretty good letter. If every senator thought more like that, the country would be in a much better place.

11/3/2010 7:25:30 PM

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"Hold the celebration. Most voters expected Republicans to win control of the House of Representatives on Election Day, but nearly as many expect to be disappointed with how they perform by the time the 2012 elections roll around. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds, in fact, that 59% of Likely U.S. Voters think it is at least somewhat likely that most voters will be disappointed with Republicans in Congress before the next national elections. That includes 38% who say it is Very Likely."

From http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/03/house-gop-disappoint-2012_n_778281.html

well what's that say about this country....

11/3/2010 8:12:42 PM

^it says the Huffington post is trying to polish the terd for its readers.

The truth is a lot can happen either way. 2 years is a long time.

11/3/2010 8:29:08 PM

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"but nearly as many expect to be disappointed with how they perform by the time the 2012 elections roll around."

In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve, not the government they want


Question for the more thoughtful people on this board. The Tea Party as it exists in its present NeoCon fashion, is clearly intellectually vacuous, they cannot support many of their own policies in a simple argument with a moderately well armed opponent and is thriving on emotion. But these things do not occur in a vacuum and, so far, the Democratic Party and the left has not put together a compelling national counterpoint.

So, how much do you feel that the "hubris" (perceived or real) of the 111th Congress and President Obama in his first two years in office contributed to the rise of the Tea Party?

11/3/2010 9:04:38 PM