Pretty good imo


Embed please

Little Lion Man: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLJf9qJHR3E

Winter Winds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i8ml0XnR4k&feature=channel


ibt folk rock is poo

9/29/2010 1:31:50 PM

picked it up a while ago.

very solid album.

9/29/2010 1:39:58 PM

The Lone Star pilot used a bunch of their songs, and I enjoyed what I heard of them.

9/29/2010 1:41:53 PM

I never eat there.

9/29/2010 1:45:41 PM

^ lulz

9/29/2010 1:46:24 PM

^^you son of a bitch

9/29/2010 1:47:43 PM

let's just keep this thread between us 3

9/29/2010 1:51:38 PM

i had never heard of this band until a guy paid tschudi $20 to play three of their songs

not bad, not good

9/29/2010 1:59:09 PM

In the Little Lion Man video the backstage shot at 1:11 is pretty cool

[Edited on September 29, 2010 at 2:01 PM. Reason : and banjo man doing the worm standing up is lulzy]

9/29/2010 2:01:18 PM

Sucks

9/29/2010 2:04:43 PM

9/29/2010 2:06:03 PM

9/29/2010 2:10:41 PM

half the album is catchy.

but each of those catchy songs basically sound the same.

the other, non-catchy half, sounds the same, too.

9/29/2010 2:32:31 PM

it's a good album. I enjoy driving to it. They are definitely becoming an "in" band several months late like Phoenix did earlier this summer.

9/29/2010 3:57:22 PM

Solid album.

9/29/2010 6:09:53 PM

no one with any cred likes this band

it's not like the phoenix situation at all

phoenix have been big in indie circles for ten years

9/29/2010 6:12:39 PM

You can keep saying that, but that doesn't make it true.

9/29/2010 6:48:04 PM

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"no one with any cred likes this band"

Yeah, cause that's how you can determine the quality of a band. Whether or not someone with "cred" likes them.

I don't really like any bluegrassy bullshit, but comments like this is why I have no respect for the indy "scene."

9/29/2010 6:49:49 PM

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"in indie circles"

did i say indie circles? i meant "in" as in for the masses.

9/29/2010 6:55:09 PM

i wasn't using that as a comment on their quality

just that phoenix first had hits in the underground in 2000/2001

true, their last album got mainstream attention roughly a year after it was released to wide acclaim in the music media, but they had been a known quantity in indie circles for nearly a decade

mumford & sons may be getting mainstream attention some months removed from their album's initial release, but they are not a popular act in the underground

9/29/2010 6:57:03 PM

so how does this work? does that make them not cool since they aren't popular in the underground?

[Edited on September 29, 2010 at 6:58 PM. Reason : k]

9/29/2010 6:57:58 PM

i could not care any less about this band and whether or not they are cool

my original comment was just to point out that the situation with mumford & sons is not like the situation with phoenix at all

9/29/2010 6:59:35 PM

Underground popularity, it's what every band craves.

9/29/2010 6:59:49 PM

underground popularity is what pays bills

unless you're making gold records, getting 100 people through the door every night is how you eat

9/29/2010 7:01:47 PM

Hey, guess what... they just made a gold record.

9/29/2010 7:03:17 PM

they're no nickleback

9/29/2010 7:04:14 PM

a homogenous mixture of avett brothers and postal service will do that

9/29/2010 7:04:48 PM

They get a lot of love in the UK and Ireland. but the album was released about 6 months earlier there. underground indie cred or not, i enjoy the album.

9/29/2010 7:07:00 PM

Yup, and now they can pretty much do whatever they want musically. That's pretty much what every musician wants, right? You hope for commercial success while making the music you want. Sometimes you even "sell out" and make music that people will like so that in the future you can do what you want.

I think that's the part that most "indie" bands don't get.

9/29/2010 7:07:45 PM

I wonder if Seasick Steve will ever make it here commercially?

9/29/2010 7:08:27 PM

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"I think that's the part that most "indie" bands don't get."

i wouldn't say that. Sometimes i feel like some indie fans think that way, but i think for the most part every artist wants some form of success.

9/29/2010 7:12:11 PM

that's just the thing

you can do what you want now without selling out, because you don't need a record company or a studio or even a band to make a record

yes, you hope to be successful enough to not need a job, but technology has progressed to the point that you no longer need to do things you don't want in order to gain access to doing what you'd like to do.

at this point, it's how much you want to make decent art versus how much you want money. there's a choice now, instead of having to take one step to reach the other.

9/29/2010 7:13:55 PM

I'm a fan

9/29/2010 8:05:24 PM

yep, after about 3 months on alt nation they've been getting some air time on the top 40 sirius channel.

9/29/2010 8:42:10 PM

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"no one with any cred likes this band"

boy, that's a lame fucking thing to say.

how does one achieve cred? how does one recognize when someone else has cred? how many cred points are required to level-up on superiority over others?

9/29/2010 8:45:55 PM

one achieves cred by having good taste

you level up when your criticism is published, and again when it's published nationally

doesn't mean you're right, doesn't mean you're not an asshole, but the fact that other people are willing to support your opinion gives you *gasp* CREDIBILITY

9/29/2010 8:50:05 PM

out of curiosity, do you read paste magazine or find them credible?

9/29/2010 8:59:16 PM

tired argument is tired.

9/29/2010 9:04:20 PM

paste is better than stereogum

i never read the print mag when it existed

9/29/2010 9:04:48 PM

i didn't either, but i read it quite a bit. They cover the folksy side of the spectrum a little more which is what i like. I was just curious because i checked and they gave the album in question a 9.1 while Pitchfork gave it a 2.1.

9/29/2010 9:11:07 PM

i don't see how anyone who listens to a wide variety of music could possibly give this record a 9/10

it's not bad, but it's completely derivative...the arrangements are fine, the songs are tolerable, and if this is your style it's a fine 6 or 7/10 record

but a 9? come on.

9/29/2010 9:17:21 PM

lol that's why i asked. a fine album, but not a 9.



oh well, i think we may have this wrapped up.

9/29/2010 9:21:32 PM

I don't know, touting the relative cred-points of different bands seems to undermine a genuine appreciation of music. To me, it a signals a shift in focus towards music culture rather than just music. I'm more interested in how something sounds than how it rates on that day's cool meter. Of course, this dynamic may not actually apply to anyone posting in this thread and even if it did, it only reflects my personal preference for music consumption and discourse.

I do think criticism can be useful and interesting, but for music, I'm not really familiar with any true critics. what I'm aware of is mostly just reviewers. anyone know some solid Critics?

9/29/2010 9:21:34 PM

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"you level up when your criticism is published, and again when it's published nationally"

there are nationally published reviews heaping praise onto kesha

9/29/2010 9:32:59 PM

i do think the "no one with any cred likes this" argument works for some things

especially for any of the bands/DJs that use electronics and travel on the jam band circuit

no one likes that shit except the hippies that will blindly like anything associated with that scene

i'm looking at you Bassnectar, Pretty Lights, Disco Biscuits, Lotus, STS9, Emancipator

[Edited on September 29, 2010 at 9:34 PM. Reason : ,]

9/29/2010 9:34:12 PM

what about pgroove?

9/29/2010 9:35:31 PM

^^^ And they're written by people with credibility. That doesn't make their opinions correct, just more valid than some idiot on the street.

^^^^ That brings up a similar question to what you asked me: what's the difference between a reviewer and a critic? Who defines the difference?

Some good rock critics:

Lester Bangs
Robert Christgau
Alex Ross
Dave Marsh
Rob Sheffield
Greil Marcus
Brent DiCrescenzo
Christopher Weingarten
Jon Landau

9/29/2010 9:38:08 PM

dnw

9/29/2010 9:38:25 PM

stir the pot

9/30/2010 1:33:20 AM

I love this album, and I've really enjoyed the band so far. There was a while where I thought I could just listen to this album for a whole year, but it's finally kind of worn off on me. Some repetitive sounds, but the songs are very evocative and there's an attention to lyrics that I think is pretty respectable. I'd see them live if they weren't constantly playing in Europe.

9/30/2010 3:54:24 AM