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New ad, just saw it on TV about a minute go:



9/25/2010 9:22:24 PM

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I'd give it to that aryan all night long.

9/25/2010 9:43:26 PM

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wow, they have lost their mind

9/26/2010 1:53:23 AM

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HOLY SHIT

9/26/2010 2:01:45 AM

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I don't like the idea of political "litmus tests".... but, if ever an issue were to exist that could be such,
it is the "ground zero mosque"


Not counting certain atheists, and generally speaking, anyone that opposes this proposed mosque

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(note: I am one of the atheists that would prefer NO mosques or churches, etc. anywhere but singling out this mosque b/c of 9/11 is the biggest crock of shit ever. Ever.)

[Edited on September 26, 2010 at 3:06 AM. Reason : ]

9/26/2010 2:52:22 AM

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the beginning of the ad really did smack of the opening to Der Ewige Jude, which posited that the Jews spread out from Palestine and were a pestilence on all civilizations they assimilated into: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnWqko2AOiQ

9/26/2010 4:04:28 AM

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9/27/2010 8:24:23 PM

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Not surprisingly, Raleigh isn't going for that ad.

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/09/nc-down-on-mosque-ad.html

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"This is particularly pertinent in the Triangle where Renee Ellmers, challenging long time Democratic Congressman Bob Etheridge, has run television ads about the mosque. Voters in that part of the state are particularly strong in their views that it's inappropriate with 56% expressing that sentiment.

Invoking the mosque is seen as acceptable by the Republican base, with 60% of GOP voters saying they think it's appropriate to only 29% who object. But for Ellmers to win she's going to have to take an overwhelming share of independents and also capture a healthy level of Democratic support. With those key groups exploiting the mosque is seen as particularly inappropriate- 68% of Democrats and 50% of independents share that feeling."


There are a few dems (Etheridge, Shuler, McIntyre, for congress, Braxton, Brisson, Cole, Spear for the General Assembly, and maybe others) who I wouldn't mind seeing out of office. But I definitely don't want to see Renee in congress.

Luckily TV ads are expensive, and buying one that hurts your campaign is a serious drain of resources.

9/30/2010 4:22:26 PM

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Some out of state money has been pouring heavily lately in this race, and against Heath Shuler in the western part of the state.

Early this month 538 was projecting Elmers has a 95% chance of losing this race, now they say she is most likely to win with a 57% chance of winning.

Its still close enough to go either way. But that's a massive come back.

10/30/2010 6:44:00 PM

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Too bad District 2 voters can't write in
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[Edited on October 30, 2010 at 9:50 PM. Reason : ]

10/30/2010 9:49:43 PM

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I like to laugh at candidates like this normally.

Now it looks like there is gonna be a congressional freshman class full of Elmers's, Angles and Joe Millers.

How the fuck did this happen?!

I feel like if I had jumped in with the Tea Party when it started. and said enough crazy on TV and up on stage, I could end up as a congressman. You couldn't come up with a more ridiculous group of misfits and idiots if you tried.

[Edited on October 30, 2010 at 10:30 PM. Reason : 2]

10/30/2010 10:26:53 PM

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"Now it looks like there is gonna be a congressional freshman class full of Elmers's, Angles and Joe Millers."


Its okay. The more experienced members like Joe "You Lie" Wilson, Michele "Moonbat" Bachmann, Randy "Baby Killer" Neugebauer, John "Pass Out Lobbyist Checks on the House Floor" Boehner, Richard "Big Oil" Burr, and of course Virginia Foxx will keep them in line.

Why is it that being a Harry Ried, Nancy Pelosi, or Alan Grayson on the left makes you likely to lose an election or at least lose your position of power, but being out there on the right doesn't so much?

[Edited on October 30, 2010 at 10:47 PM. Reason : .]

10/30/2010 10:44:28 PM

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"the beginning of the ad really did smack of the opening to Der Ewige Jude, which posited that the Jews spread out from Palestine and were a pestilence on all civilizations they assimilated into"


No. The ad tells the literal truth. Muslims did conquer those places and built Mosques by either destroying Christian shrines/churches (Jerusalem) or converting churches (Constantinople) into Mosques. It's a fear mongering ad for sure... but a at least it teaches some history.

10/31/2010 3:48:42 AM

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^ Yeah. History that's placed far out of context with the actual situation at hand.

DEY BILLEDED SUM VICTARY MOSCS BACK IN DEM DAR OLDEN TIMES, NOW DEY ARE TRYIN TO DO DAT DAR STUFF HER! IT AINT RITE. IT SOME UNAMURRICUN UNCONSTUTUSHUNAL BULLSHITE!

10/31/2010 4:12:08 AM

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Don't Christians historically also build churches over former holy sites for other religions after they take over the land?

Also, how is this issue even remotely relevant to the 2nd district? Given all the other more pressing issues that directly affect them, do the people of Raleigh, Garner, or Lillington really feel that they will be making their congressional voting decisions on the misleading rhetoric about victory muslim community centers in another state?

10/31/2010 4:35:19 AM

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"Now it looks like there is gonna be a congressional freshman class full of Elmers's, Angles and Joe Millers ... How the fuck did this happen?! "


because urban democrats dared to elect an uppity negro as president.

that's how this happened.

11/1/2010 5:50:16 PM

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Obama isn't particularly unpopular. Congress is historically unpopular, however.

I suppose that governing during a financial meltdown hasn't helped. Democrats never did have good timing...

11/2/2010 12:07:39 AM

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^^^ 9/11. Never forget...













... For one more year.

11/2/2010 12:15:10 AM

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"Obama isn't particularly unpopular. "


um, he's the fucking antichrist to the teabaggers who are leading the current "revolution"

11/2/2010 10:27:16 AM

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I think you are over stating the sway and pull the tea party actually has against Democrats.

In a lot of races that Republicans should have won, the tea party will end up handing those seats to the Democrats.

11/2/2010 11:05:11 AM

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true.

but my point is Obama is highly unpopular with conservatives and (along with Pelosi) is one of the prime motivators for the opposition turnout. And conservatives generally tend to identify with Teabaggers, at least in principle, even if they dont support some of the more batshit candidates like O'Donnell and Miller.

whereas on the other side, many democrats are sitting home saying "meh" because the leadership has been less than inspired.




[Edited on November 2, 2010 at 11:10 AM. Reason : ]

11/2/2010 11:09:52 AM

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Independents are flocking to the right in record numbers. Those independents don't hate Obama, but they hate the Democrat leadership in congress.

We are seeing anti-incumbent fervor, plain and simple. Trying to paint this midterm sweep as a racist backlash against Obama is highly misleading.

[Edited on November 2, 2010 at 11:56 AM. Reason : 22]

11/2/2010 11:54:10 AM

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It isn't an anti-incumbency fervor. If that were the case, you'd be seeing long standing Republican members of congress on the hot seat right now. It is simply an anti-Democrat year. Plain and simple as that.

11/2/2010 11:59:06 AM

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"It isn't an anti-incumbency fervor. ... It is simply an anti-Democrat year. Plain and simple as that."


agreed.

but with the additional caveat that social conservatives are motivated by their outrage that we have a Black Islamic Terrorist, a Woman Socialist, and a Biden in the top 3 leadership positions of this country. it's conservative anger for having lost the election to Obama-the-islamic-terrorist-who-was-born-in-Kenya, combined with general disgust with the supposed socialist policies of the wicked witch Nancy Pelosi.

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"Independents are flocking to the right in record numbers. "


yeah, that's just not true.

left-leaning independents along with democrats are staying home in large numbers, whereas the "Angry Right" are flocking to the polls. Democrats and democratic-leaning independents are simple not motivated by what is percieved to be uninspired leadership and failed promises.

the independents who ARE voting are the independents who would have been inclined to vote for the right, anyhow. so it nicely fits into the right's self-narrative to claim that independents are "flocking"

but this is an exact repeat of 1994.

By many accounts it may have also been repeated in 2002 (in the reverse direction), had we not had our brand-new war on to rally the nation around the Commander in Chief. Though not necessarily, because Democrats are naturally more fractured than the the Republicans who typical maintain a lockstep in their party. which is why the minority Repub party continues to dominate the majority Dems so often: the Republican party machine is homogeneous and well-disciplined.






[Edited on November 2, 2010 at 1:06 PM. Reason : ]

11/2/2010 12:52:50 PM

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