http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/06/08/children.wellbeing/index.html?hpt=C2
6/9/2010 8:57:16 AM
because it's the kids fault their parents had them?
6/9/2010 9:01:05 AM
not to mention all these poor fucks are probably going to grow up and become cops that pull my pothead son over for no goddamn reason
6/9/2010 9:02:36 AM
6/9/2010 9:07:44 AM
6/9/2010 9:13:39 AM
Kill everyone. Problem solved.
6/9/2010 9:20:17 AM
^
6/9/2010 9:23:12 AM
6/9/2010 9:29:37 AM
The problem is poor people not the system that is funneling wealth to the top 1 percentgot it
6/9/2010 9:31:51 AM
A better question is what portion of those impoverished children were the result of unwanted pregnancies.It might be surprising to some folks who assume these are all crack babies (looking at you HUR) considering how many families have been hit hard financially due to the economic downturn and went from middle class to below the poverty line as a result...
6/9/2010 9:37:30 AM
^ I am not arguing again this fact. My only concern is that this article was designed to steer opinion to encourage further increases in tax breaks and "benefits" for families. Those who are temporarily laid off are already enjoying a level of support until they get a job and those with jobs already enjoy an abundant of tax credits/breaks.We can not keep opening the spigot though unless we want to end up like Greece.
6/9/2010 9:43:59 AM
The recession affected adults AND children? No way!
6/9/2010 9:47:30 AM
^^ Can you point me to the statement in the article that advocate for further increases in tax breaks and benefits for families? I read the entire thing, but I appear to have missed it.
6/9/2010 9:48:31 AM
The point of the article is that the portion of children living below poverty is INCREASING. For HUR's theory to make sense, that this is the fault of stupid poor people breeding too much, he would have to explain why stupid poor people are having more kids now than before.In reality, this more likely caused by the fact that families that were above the poverty line a few years ago are slipping below the poverty line.
6/9/2010 9:49:18 AM
6/9/2010 10:14:15 AM
6/9/2010 10:47:28 AM
^ what he said
6/9/2010 10:52:55 AM
The need for welfare would dramatically decrease if we fixed the education system. With some upfront investments you can take these excess children, who are a long term drain in the current system, and turn them into a net gain over the long term. The children get good lives, the economy gets better workers, everyone goes home happy. All we need is someone with the will to take a hatchet to failing schools and their staff and start implementing some of the stuff that we know works.
6/9/2010 11:05:22 AM
6/9/2010 11:08:36 AM
HUR is right, we should sterilize poor people. I propose a new law that states you can only have a child if you make more than $25,000 per year.
6/9/2010 11:10:58 AM
6/9/2010 11:11:02 AM
^^^^ agreed.I thought you were going to argue for bathing the problem in more money, but you nailed it.[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 11:12 AM. Reason : ^ Goddamn it, taxes should not be an instrument of social engineering]
6/9/2010 11:11:41 AM
I just love how the richest 1% have everyone fooled into thinking it's a great thing to keep padding their pockets.You fools.
6/9/2010 11:13:22 AM
6/9/2010 11:14:12 AM
absolutely[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 11:18 AM. Reason : and farm subsidies...and so on]
6/9/2010 11:17:49 AM
Is there no correlation between the declining wealth of the middle class/increased wealth of top 1% and corporate welfare?[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 11:25 AM. Reason : d]
6/9/2010 11:23:21 AM
6/9/2010 12:09:32 PM
6/9/2010 12:22:57 PM
Wasn't talking to me. Whoops.[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 12:26 PM. Reason : .]
6/9/2010 12:25:51 PM
6/9/2010 1:58:43 PM
6/9/2010 2:33:21 PM
How many of them are like this?From another message board I am on...
6/9/2010 2:41:27 PM
headline is misleading. it should say "more children with low quality of life"
6/9/2010 3:34:21 PM
^+1
6/9/2010 3:59:13 PM
Quality of life? It's all relative.poor children != sad childrenI grew up on rice and sugar cubes. I thought it tasted great! Besides, there are advantages to being poor.FACT: The only people complaining about people being poor, is non-poor people. Poor people don't complain about their poorness. At least, not from my experience living in a poor families and around poor neighborhoods.[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 4:42 PM. Reason : bling bling]
6/9/2010 4:41:57 PM
6/9/2010 6:22:26 PM
6/9/2010 6:31:59 PM
^^while I agree with the statement that in the same environment people will succeed at equal rates...part of their environment is the household they grow up in. Taking the children from some of those people may actually help those kids in the long run.[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 6:34 PM. Reason : effing carrots]
6/9/2010 6:33:27 PM
6/9/2010 7:03:38 PM
6/9/2010 7:13:34 PM
^ lower class people in the US throw away plenty of money on booze, cell phones, car mods, etc, that they could be spending on their kids (stationery, healthy food, educational toys, books, etc.).
6/9/2010 7:37:15 PM
6/9/2010 7:43:53 PM
6/9/2010 8:28:29 PM
It doesn't matter who it is having the kids. Plus, educated women don't even tend to have kids. Point is, not kid should have to live in poverty. Theres plenty of resources to go around.
6/9/2010 9:57:45 PM
^ Feel free to donate all your resources. Being taxed 30% is more than enough from my paycheck....
6/9/2010 10:34:24 PM
The problem here is that the "poverty line" is way too high.
6/9/2010 11:58:40 PM
hey HUR...I'm glad we agree here. That's all.
6/10/2010 12:37:43 AM
6/10/2010 12:50:39 AM
I'm not totally sure, but I'd guess that the continued decline of manufacturing and other relatively high paying "blue collar" jobs has probably added to the income disparity. Now you pretty much have white collar jobs, and no collar jobs. There just aren't that many options out there for someone to make a good living without going to college.
6/10/2010 1:20:29 AM
Good thing someone invented a progressive tax system, public schools, public healthcare and now all we have to do is funnel the money from the rich and into services and education for these children.I don't favor 'welfare queens' but I do favor 'welfare children' if you will.
6/10/2010 1:22:25 AM