http://ephphatha-poetry.blogspot.com/2010/04/imagine-if-tea-party-was-black-tim-wise.html

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"Let’s play a game, shall we? The name of the game is called “Imagine.” The way it’s played is simple: we’ll envision recent happenings in the news, but then change them up a bit. Instead of envisioning white people as the main actors in the scenes we’ll conjure - the ones who are driving the action - we’ll envision black folks or other people of color instead. The object of the game is to imagine the public reaction to the events or incidents, if the main actors were of color, rather than white. Whoever gains the most insight into the workings of race in America, at the end of the game, wins. So let’s begin. Imagine that hundreds of black protesters were to descend upon Washington DC and Northern Virginia, just a few miles from the Capitol and White House, armed with AK-47s, assorted handguns, and ammunition. And imagine that some of these protesters —the black protesters — spoke of the need for political revolution, and possibly even armed conflict in the event that laws they didn’t like were enforced by the government? Would these protester — these black protesters with guns — be seen as brave defenders of the Second Amendment, or would they be viewed by most whites as a danger to the republic? What if they were Arab-Americans? Because, after all, that’s what happened recently when white gun enthusiasts descended upon the nation’s capital, arms in hand, and verbally announced their readiness to make war on the country’s political leaders if the need arose. Imagine that white members of Congress, while walking to work, were surrounded by thousands of angry black people, one of whom proceeded to spit on one of those congressmen for not voting the way the black demonstrators desired. Would the protesters be seen as merely patriotic Americans voicing their opinions, or as an angry, potentially violent, and even insurrectionary mob? After all, this is what white Tea Party protesters did recently in Washington. Imagine that a rap artist were to say, in reference to a white president: “He’s a piece of shit and I told him to suck on my machine gun.” Because that’s what rocker Ted Nugent said recently about President Obama. Imagine that a prominent mainstream black political commentator had long employed an overt bigot as Executive Director of his organization, and that this bigot regularly participated in black separatist conferences, and once assaulted a white person while calling them by a racial slur. When that prominent black commentator and his sister — who also works for the organization — defended the bigot as a good guy who was misunderstood and “going through a tough time in his life” would anyone accept their excuse-making? Would that commentator still have a place on a mainstream network? Because that’s what happened in the real world, when Pat Buchanan employed as Executive Director of his group, America’s Cause, a blatant racist who did all these things, or at least their white equivalents: attending white separatist conferences and attacking a black woman while calling her the n-word. Imagine that a black radio host were to suggest that the only way to get promoted in the administration of a white president is by “hating black people,” or that a prominent white person had only endorsed a white presidential candidate as an act of racial bonding, or blamed a white president for a fight on a school bus in which a black kid was jumped by two white kids, or said that he wouldn’t want to kill all conservatives, but rather, would like to leave just enough—“living fossils” as he called them—“so we will never forget what these people stood for.” After all, these are things that Rush Limbaugh has said, about Barack Obama’s administration, Colin Powell’s endorsement of Barack Obama, a fight on a school bus in Belleville, Illinois in which two black kids beat up a white kid, and about liberals, generally. Imagine that a black pastor, formerly a member of the U.S. military, were to declare, as part of his opposition to a white president’s policies, that he was ready to “suit up, get my gun, go to Washington, and do what they trained me to do.” This is, after all, what Pastor Stan Craig said recently at a Tea Party rally in Greenville, South Carolina. Imagine a black radio talk show host gleefully predicting a revolution by people of color if the government continues to be dominated by the rich white men who have been “destroying” the country, or if said radio personality were to call Christians or Jews non-humans, or say that when it came to conservatives, the best solution would be to “hang ‘em high.” And what would happen to any congressional representative who praised that commentator for “speaking common sense” and likened his hate talk to “American values?” After all, those are among the things said by radio host and best-selling author Michael Savage, predicting white revolution in the face of multiculturalism, or said by Savage about Muslims and liberals, respectively. And it was Congressman Culbertson, from Texas, who praised Savage in that way, despite his hateful rhetoric. Imagine a black political commentator suggesting that the only thing the guy who flew his plane into the Austin, Texas IRS building did wrong was not blowing up Fox News instead. This is, after all, what Anne Coulter said about Tim McVeigh, when she noted that his only mistake was not blowing up the New York Times. Imagine that a popular black liberal website posted comments about the daughter of a white president, calling her “typical redneck trash,” or a “whore” whose mother entertains her by “making monkey sounds.” After all that’s comparable to what conservatives posted about Malia Obama on freerepublic.com last year, when they referred to her as “ghetto trash.” Imagine that black protesters at a large political rally were walking around with signs calling for the lynching of their congressional enemies. Because that’s what white conservatives did last year, in reference to Democratic party leaders in Congress. In other words, imagine that even one-third of the anger and vitriol currently being hurled at President Obama, by folks who are almost exclusively white, were being aimed, instead, at a white president, by people of color. How many whites viewing the anger, the hatred, the contempt for that white president would then wax eloquent about free speech, and the glories of democracy? And how many would be calling for further crackdowns on thuggish behavior, and investigations into the radical agendas of those same people of color? To ask any of these questions is to answer them. Protest is only seen as fundamentally American when those who have long had the luxury of seeing themselves as prototypically American engage in it. When the dangerous and dark “other” does so, however, it isn’t viewed as normal or natural, let alone patriotic. Which is why Rush Limbaugh could say, this past week, that the Tea Parties are the first time since the Civil War that ordinary, common Americans stood up for their rights: a statement that erases the normalcy and “American-ness” of blacks in the civil rights struggle, not to mention women in the fight for suffrage and equality, working people in the fight for better working conditions, and LGBT folks as they struggle to be treated as full and equal human beings. And this, my friends, is what white privilege is all about. The ability to threaten others, to engage in violent and incendiary rhetoric without consequence, to be viewed as patriotic and normal no matter what you do, and never to be feared and despised as people of color would be, if they tried to get away with half the shit we do, on a daily basis. Game Over. "

5/1/2010 7:57:42 AM

Imagine

5/1/2010 8:39:09 AM

tl;dr

5/1/2010 10:13:23 AM

imagine if pryderi ever posted something worth a shit.

5/1/2010 10:22:05 AM

Imagine there's no pryderi
It's easy if you try
No troll threads in the Soap Box
And no threads that make people sigh
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no trolling
It isn't hard to do
No "tl"'s and "dr"'s
And no "ibtl"'s too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no more quote spam
I wonder if you can
No need for mods or roll-eyes
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

[Edited on May 1, 2010 at 2:20 PM. Reason : jkh]

5/1/2010 2:19:40 PM

A thought-provoking article.

5/1/2010 3:00:25 PM

it is called the Black Panthers with better PR guys. done.

5/1/2010 3:07:28 PM

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"tl;dr"

5/1/2010 3:41:55 PM

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" Imagine that white members of Congress, while walking to work, were surrounded by thousands of angry black people, one of whom proceeded to spit on one of those congressmen for not voting the way the black demonstrators desired. Imagine that a rap artist were to say, in reference to a white president: “He’s a piece of shit and I told him to suck on my machine gun.” Because that’s what rocker Ted Nugent said recently about President Obama."

5/1/2010 3:53:25 PM

Imagine you had a large group of lower-middle class white people that were fightin' mad at you.

Imagine you had a large group of lower class blacks that were fightin' mad at you.

Which group would you fear more?

To ask is to answer. White people can get away with this kind of rhetoric, because the public perception (and the public reality) is that one group is significantly less violent than the other.

That means they can use over-heated rhetoric, without causing much actual fear.

If black society wasn't perceived as so much more dangerous, then they could do act foolish like this too, with little consequence. But, that's the price you pay as a group for being disproportionately violent, and being perceived that way.

[Edited on May 1, 2010 at 7:42 PM. Reason : a]

5/1/2010 7:41:46 PM

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"And this, my friends, is what white privilege is all about. "

5/1/2010 7:49:01 PM

What's the point being made here? I'm not sure if pryderi is hating on white people, black people, liberals, conservatives, mexicans, the french, north korea, martians, or Kevin Bacon.

5/2/2010 1:41:43 AM

^ huh?

Pryderi didn't write the article, I actually posted this blog entry like a month ago in the tea bagger thread... pryderi just felt that it needed its own thread I guess.

5/2/2010 1:49:34 AM

I know he didn't write the article, but he posted it thus has some sort of point to make.


It's all hypothetical bullshit, with no more credibility than "Imagine if there were a white history month/entertainment television/scholarship/whatever" argument.

5/2/2010 2:04:02 AM

Imagine if I could engage in absurd hyperbole and ignore reality...
Imagine if I could slander an entire movement as racist and get away with it...

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"one of whom proceeded to spit on one of those congressmen"

imagine if that actually fucking happened. oh wait, it didn't. fuck.

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"Imagine that a popular ... liberal website posted comments about the daughter of a white president, calling her “typical redneck trash,” or a “whore”"

didn't that actually pretty much happen with the Bush daughters, or even Palin's daughter? way to go, dumbass.

5/2/2010 2:59:22 PM

If they were black, they would get laughed at just as hard.

Arabs would be pretty scary though.

5/2/2010 3:14:48 PM

now that's racist!

5/2/2010 3:29:18 PM

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"To ask is to answer. White people can get away with this kind of rhetoric, because the public perception (and the public reality) is that one group is significantly less violent than the other. "

I always thought our society operated to the inverse of the above statement.

Roland Smith (see my TSB thread on the subject) can get away with equating confederate soldiers to that of Islamic terrorists. If though some white columnist equated the black panthers to islamic terrorist (which realistically holds more weight than Billy Strickland grabbing his musket to defend his 4 acre plot in 1862) the other broadcast stations would have eaten the author alive and a shit storm would have erupted on the political arena.

5/2/2010 11:53:37 PM

sorry I ruined your black panther party.

5/3/2010 9:49:03 AM

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"imagine if that actually fucking happened. oh wait, it didn't. fuck."

it did.... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/20/AR2010032002556.html

5/3/2010 9:57:27 AM

only it didn't. that article is saying that someone said it happened. there is no corroboration. there never was.

5/5/2010 10:22:56 PM