From Good Morning America
1/8/2010 7:57:52 PM
seriously this is ridiculous.
1/8/2010 8:00:18 PM
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/01/08/giuliani-says-no-domestic-terror-attacks-under-bush/
1/8/2010 8:10:16 PM
hahahaha seriously im still amazed by this.
1/8/2010 8:10:22 PM
I, for one, have forgotten. Who was Bush again?
1/8/2010 8:37:36 PM
Giuliani, of all people...I'm having trouble thinking of something more ironic.
1/8/2010 8:45:28 PM
This should probably go in the GOP credibility thread.
1/8/2010 8:50:00 PM
hahahaha, that's some rich shit. that it was Guliani? even better
1/8/2010 8:54:50 PM
geez, could he mean second term? Only thing I can think of.I hate politics sometimes. This kind of shit doesnt help at all.
1/8/2010 9:01:28 PM
Have you guys not learned by this point that when there's nothing interesting to report, the world's most irrelevant people will be put in front of the camera to provide what amounts to little more then televised blogging? The God Damn balloon dad was on Larry King talking about how his hoax wasn't a hoax for the love of God.
1/8/2010 9:28:00 PM
Rudy Giuliani isn't exactly the balloon boy
1/8/2010 9:29:07 PM
That point being that networks are hardly concerned with the factual validity of anything they air.
1/8/2010 9:34:04 PM
Well, I suppose you could view 9/11 (which was followed almost immediately by the anthrax attacks and the shoebomber) as a wake-up call, and start the tally from after that point. In fact, I think it could be argued that this is pretty clearly what Giuliani meant, at least with respect to 9/11 (whether you view the ~3 months that those events spanned as a single entity in terms of time period from which to start counting is more arguable).The DC sniper attacks were quite potentially not motivated by terrorism in the same sense that the other attacks were (though they probably did more to terrify people than any of the rest).So, all in all, this was a totally stupid thing to say, even at face value, but it isn't quite as ridiculous as it appears if you think a little more about the timeline of events and what Giuliani likely meant.That said, what exactly was Giuliani trying to say? I mean, it's not like this was some huge coordinated attack where the bad guys sat down, thought strategically, and said "OK, this is it...now's our chance, with Obama in the White House." No, they've been throwing shit against the wall periodically all along, and finally one jackass managed to slip through the cracks of the very security system put into place under the Bush Administration...so in that light, really all you could accuse Obama of is not evolving our security any further in the past year...but what would he have done to counter this one? I mean, this was pretty much the shoe-bomber attack all over again, just with the little bomb moved from the shoes to the taint. Existing security measures LONG since in place should've been able to handle this one, right? You know, the stuff enacted...under the Bush Administration.Of course, the reality is that those motherfuckers are eventually probably going to get lucky, and all we can really do is suppress them to where the odds are very, very slim...then each hope we're not one of the unlucky ones on the airplane when they finally do make it through. Achieving 100% security, if even possible even with the limited scope of air travel, is not really practical.
1/8/2010 9:58:00 PM
Man with all the heat Obama is getting you'd think he spent almost a full 3 years on vacation days while presiding over two different wars, one of which had no practical or substantial connection with the 9/11 attacks and that he and his entire administration lobbied for under false pretenses
1/8/2010 10:11:50 PM
In a similar vein (sorta) today I caught Bortz saying that a terrorist attack will happen before the Nov elections. It wasn't qualified with "if they don't fix things" (but maybe it was implied), no, just "an attack will happen".
1/8/2010 10:24:43 PM
Just like O'reilly was saying last night that "One more attack will be end of the Obama administration".
1/8/2010 10:59:44 PM
or we could just stop pissing these folks off.
1/8/2010 11:10:07 PM
I can't help but notice a tinge of hope in their voices when guys like Bortz and Hannity say these things.
1/9/2010 7:00:46 AM
^Kind of like the utter glee in democrat's voices as they bemoaned the collapse of Bush's economy during the '08 election?
1/9/2010 10:13:30 AM
1/9/2010 10:15:28 AM
Its funny how many so called "constitutionalists" are willing to step on the constitution when it comes to something that goes with their agenda. The moment we give up rights and bypass the constitution for the sake of security is the moment the terrorists have won.
1/9/2010 10:18:34 AM
In my rage over the possibility of Lost being preempted by the State of the Union address, I had completely forgotten about terrorism.I'm supposed to be scared of those guys, right?
1/9/2010 10:52:38 AM
1/9/2010 11:52:54 AM
Can someone remind me why we have an interest in Israel again. I know the Israel thing has been turned over infinity times here. Is it just for oil, basically?
1/9/2010 11:59:30 AM
Religion, oil, Jewish lobbying
1/9/2010 12:15:39 PM
1) religion - Evangelicals and fundamentalist Christians believe that the land is Israel is holy and is key to the 2nd coming of Christ. According to the bible, the nation of Israel must be reestablished in the area before Jesus can come back, a "prophecy" (some would say self fulfilling) that came true in 1948. Jewish people also believe the land of Israel is holy, but for slightly different reasons than Christians. Nonetheless, Christians here are happy to have Jews hold and protect the land over there, because Christian interests in the are a much more closely aligned with Jewish interests than with Muslim interests (who also believe the land is holy....). The entire Christian-Zionist movement is really a ploy on the Christians part to have the Jews do all the work in securing the nation of Israel to speed up the 2nd Coming. The part everyone overlooks is that Christians believe that when the 2nd Coming does occur, the Jews will be sent straight to hell. Of course, Jews don't believe this and are still waiting for their own 1st Coming or whatever. So fundamentally, Christian and Jewish beliefs about the area are strictly opposed to each other, but politically, it makes sense. Christians want to keep control of Israel, which is occupied by Jews. Therefore, Christians support Israel seemingly at all costs. Jews don't believe the 2nd Coming story, but they are more than happy to have the full support of the most powerful nation on earth, no matter what the reasoning is. 2) racism, i believe - this is tied into the religion thing, but I think a lot of white folks over here get worked up over the thought of a tiny country of whitish people, with a religion pretty similar to theirs, surrounded on all sides by mean brown-skinned people
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1/9/2010 12:37:05 PM
mambagrl needs to get banned for reals
1/9/2010 7:30:40 PM
Perhaps we should follow the example of the legendary and revered hero of America Franklin Roosevelt. For national security, for their own protection, and the good of the american people we should round up all muslim american people and send them to internment camps until this war on terror ends.
1/9/2010 8:14:29 PM
Maybe you disagree with it but why do you think its an absurd idea to change the immoral policy that has lead to Jihad against us. Yes, terrorism is wrong and two wrongs don't make a right but wouldn't it be nice to have the moral high ground here?
1/9/2010 8:31:11 PM
We do.
1/9/2010 9:51:53 PM
immoral policy?immoral in the sense of not worshiping some made up presence?
1/9/2010 10:33:49 PM
Why do you think islamic extremists attack/attempt to attack us?((hickmisconceptionhint), its not because we wear bikinis and aren't muslim. 80% of the world is non muslim. its also not because we are "rich" see switzerland and many others)
1/9/2010 11:13:11 PM
they fucking hate Switzerland too.
1/9/2010 11:38:19 PM
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ter_glo_ter_ind-terrorism-global-indicatorcheck out wherenorwaysouth koreaicelandfinlandluxemburgirelandnetherlandsdenmarkare. some of the wealthiest, non muslim, panty waving nations on the planet. As a matter of fact, the five wealthiest nations, have a terrorism indicator of 0.
1/9/2010 11:59:38 PM
1/10/2010 12:12:15 PM
I kind-of view mambagrl as the leftist equivalent to aaronburro. She seems to be able to keep him tied up enough not to bother other threads.
1/10/2010 12:17:23 PM
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1/10/2010 3:32:30 PM
How so?
1/10/2010 3:33:06 PM