1/1/2010 10:54:29 PM
1/1/2010 10:54:52 PM
why the hell didn't you just post the link from dailykos like you did in the other thread.http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/1/1/820494/-Where-we-were,-and-where-we-are
1/1/2010 11:19:14 PM
More accessible & significantly narrowed down. And I'd get more thread aesthetics complaints if I presented it as just a link with no content rather than the video list/titles which I think is an interesting way to look at the year in review. Some are trying to paint a meme that nothing happened in this administration's first year, which is pretty clearly incorrect. I'm not trying to say the president deserves sole credit for any of the accomplishments, but his administration has had a busy year with a hand in a lot of good works, even if there is a lot more to be done.
1/2/2010 12:28:56 AM
Obama's First Year: Has He Fallen Short?December 26, 2009
1/2/2010 12:56:01 AM
I saw hooksaw posted.I expected bold quote http:// shitposting with no additional comments.Thread delivered.
1/2/2010 1:53:36 AM
Supplanter should know I generally respect his opinion in TSB, but this is what I get out of this:SpeechSignatureSignatureSignatureSpeechSpeechSpeechSpeechSpeechSpeechSpeechVisitSignatureSignatureSpeechSpeechSpeechSpeechSignatureSpeechAnd somewhere in there should be the Nobel Peace Prize for . . . Most of that legislation he had no hand in and simply didn't veto what his party passed. The rest was just him talking. He had an unusually hard time filling his cabinet and the office of the Presidency has taken a (relative) back-seat in the news cycle to the legislative branch. Now, in this man's opinion, that is the way the presidency should be, but it isn't the action of President Obama which is noticeable, it is the relative inaction. The most substantial evidence of executive decision making is the noticeable increase in the use of UAVs as a strike platform on the AfPak border.
1/3/2010 12:05:44 AM
I'm a dem.I work for the democrats.I voted for Obama.And I cannot agree that Obama got shit done this year. Yes, I know he had a lot to deal with, but he has not been the leader that I was hoping he would be.
1/3/2010 12:17:29 AM
Giving speeches like the Cairo speech, signing legislation like the hate crime legislation & promising very publicly to end DADT, making appointments like a Supreme Court Justice, acting as Commander in Chief such as with setting a time-table (a word opposed by the right, especially during the last administration) for the inherited wars & closing gitmo, ending torture, respecting the Geneva conventions, and taking environmental considerations seriously all involve the president to some degree or another. And so far I've intentionally tried to avoid any reference to dealing with the economy/recession/recovery, which quite obviously took some attention,
1/3/2010 1:21:00 AM
Obama-meter on promises kept, broken, stalled, or in the works: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/^ beat me by 5 minutes[Edited on January 3, 2010 at 1:27 AM. Reason : ]
1/3/2010 1:26:36 AM
^^ & ^, I addressed that in another thread and it is almost a joke. It gives the President credit for congressional acts that happen to line up with the President's campaign promises. It is the intellectual equivalent of accusing Richard Burr of voting with the Democratic leadership 90% of the time by counting procedural votes.^^ I'm simply opposed to the idea of an activist Presidency. The President is the executive of the nation and as such should spend his capital ensuring that the executive branch (namely every federal government bureaucracy) actually executes the laws and directives of the legislative branch effectively and efficiently.
1/3/2010 1:35:01 AM
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1/3/2010 11:17:59 AM
We've seen in the past how far health care reform legislation has come when presidents try to spoon-feed their idea of a bill to congress. Instead he has given speeches, done town halls, done a joint session address on HCR, and spoken directly to congressional members instead of making public announcements of "this is exactly what a bill should look like"
1/3/2010 11:44:19 AM
1/3/2010 12:15:16 PM
Not everyone who voted for the guy had any gumption that he was Jesus.I voted for him cause he had a nice smile.Hell, I once voted for Ralph Nader cause I liked his haircut.
1/3/2010 12:20:11 PM
well no, a lot of people voted for them because they felt they had to vote for someone and he was the more preferable of the two.That being said, it was a deliberate political strategy (and a brilliant one, since they pulled it off) to portray President Obama in a messianic light, leading his people out of the desert of the Bush years. The question is, where will he eventually wind up on the spectrum between Jesus and David Koresh? [Edited on January 3, 2010 at 12:26 PM. Reason : And NO I am not comparing President Obama to David Koresh, or Jesus for that matter.]
1/3/2010 12:25:25 PM
1/3/2010 4:35:35 PM
Not really, the President is responsible for quite a bit, actually. Executive orders are issued all the time which dictate how agencies execute their jobs, I think an examination of those would be more telling than speeches and law signings, they're simply more boring.President Bush had a great deal of influence in the GOP controlled congress during most of his term and actively worked with lawmakers to ensure his vision was accomplished through both legislative and executive channels. I'm not saying it is right, but that is how he operated. There has not been a similar connection between BHO and his congress, which is incidentally more solidly Democratic than GWBs were ever Republican.BHO has not been as dynamic a leader as he has been an orator and his own party is starting to show signs of tiring of his lack of forceful leadership. That being said, the GOP isn't picking up what he is losing so it is way to early to call the 2010 election much less the 2012 election.
1/3/2010 4:58:51 PM
Why don't you embed this one, Supplanter?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2xzRMLmEoI
1/4/2010 12:21:24 AM
^Because he made this promise, and I believe he will keep it before the end of his first term:
1/4/2010 1:53:35 AM
this thread is a bag of shit. i agree with the sing, speech, speech, speech....post.When all else fails, which it did, just sign a bunch of shit and take credit for it!
1/4/2010 12:13:14 PM
Embed this one.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQiNPfyunUc
1/4/2010 12:28:04 PM
1/4/2010 1:32:01 PM
How would it be unconstitutional?
1/4/2010 1:40:42 PM
well, cause they aren't following the letter of the law, maybe? They will create their own ruling that they don't have to follow the 250-ton/year limit, something which was codified by law.
1/4/2010 6:57:12 PM
Wait, as in a 250 ton threshold for regulation? Citation?
1/5/2010 8:12:00 AM
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/11/19/805925/-90-Accomplishments-of-Pres.-Obama-Which-The-Media-Fails-to-Report...."Professor Watson writesHi friends,I am always being asked to grade Obama's presidency. In place of offering him a grade, I put together a list of his accomplishments thus far. I think you would agree that it is very impressive. His first six months have been even more active than FDRs or LBJs the two standards for such assessments. Yet, there is little media attention given to much of what he has done. Of late, the media is focusing almost exclusively on Obama's critics, without holding them responsible for the uncivil, unconstructive tone of their disagreements or without holding the previous administration responsible for getting us in such a deep hole. The misinformation and venom that now passes for political reporting and civic debate is beyond description.As such, there is a need to set the record straight. What most impresses me is the fact that Obama has accomplished so much not from a heavy-handed or top-down approach but from a style that has institutionalized efforts to reach across the aisle, encourage vigorous debate, and utilize town halls and panels of experts in the policy-making process. Beyond the accomplishments, the process is good for democracy and our democratic processes have been battered and bruised in recent years.Let me know if I missed anything in the list (surely I did).Robert 1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending 2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices 3. Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women 4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq 5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB 6. Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information 7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier's family 8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act 9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible 10. Limits on lobbyist's access to the White House 11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration 12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date 13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren't even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan 14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research 15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research 16. New federal funding for science and research labs 17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards 18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect 19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools 20. New funds for school construction 21. The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out 22. US Auto industry rescue plan 23. Housing rescue plan 24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan 25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying 26. US financial and banking rescue plan 27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed 28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with the Geneva Convention standards 29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops 30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010 31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols 32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic 33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions 34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office 35. Successful release of US captain held by Somali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job 36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast 37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles 38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales 39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government 40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children 41. Signed national service legislation; expanded national youth service program 42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones 43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions 44. Expanding vaccination programs 45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters 46. Closed offshore tax safe havens 47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals 48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back 49. Ended the previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry's predatory practices 50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources 51. Lower drug costs for seniors 52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings 53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel 54. Improved housing for military personnel 55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses 56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals 57. Increasing student loans 58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program 59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy 60. Established a new cyber security office 61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc. 62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts 63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness 64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient 65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced 66. Improving benefits for veterans 67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration 68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud 69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco 70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules 71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports 72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons 73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive 74. Making more loans available to small businesses 75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare 76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court 77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans 78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000 79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel 80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan 81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan 82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans 83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production 84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters 85. Paid for redecoration of White House living quarters out of his own pocket 86. Held first Seder in White House 87. Attempting to reform the nation's healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more under insured 88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform 89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform 90. Has announced his intention to push for education reformOh, and he built a swing set for the girls outside the Oval Office!bRobert P. Watson, Ph.D.Coordinator of American StudiesLynn University"
1/6/2010 9:36:39 PM
1/6/2010 10:27:29 PM
1/6/2010 10:40:35 PM
I gave Supplanter and the Daily Kos more credit than that. Some of the more egregious ones:5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB Families already got $100,000 up front, not including additional pay, funeral expenses, life insurance etc.9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible ditto what ^ said . . . they attempted a media blockout of the only network openly critical of them. Silly as Fox may be sometimes, this isn't exactly "transparency"10. Limits on lobbyist's access to the White House for serious?18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect what ^ said . . . barely. Again, CONGRESS controls the purse strings, not the executive..29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops Seriously? Body armor upgrades are ALWAYS being tested and provided as they become available53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel ok, this is about the fourty-leventh act of congress that is being attributed to BHO. I went back to make sure they weren't referring to what congress had accomplished. Nope, this is being attributed to a President whom is conspicuously absent from the halls of congress, according to his own party.64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient a lot of shit has been established. I can take a shit in my yard and say I've established a composting and fertilizing program . . . are there any actual means of measuring the success of this?81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan Wait, I thought the DailyKos was opposed to the Afghan buildup?87. Attempting to reform the nation's healthcare system [i]Stop. Right. Fucking. There. President Obama's grand contribution has been some cheerleading and an offer to sign anything, whatever it may be, that comes across his desk looking like it might possibly have something to do with somebody somewhere and their health care plan.This shit reads like a low grade campaign sheet, not a remotely incisive or accurate list not to mention it's fundamental either misunderstanding or misrepresentation of the political process. If it were a resume it'd be tossed in the round file immediately for containing nothing but vague assertions with no quantifiable results or evidence that the President was actually the acting party.Again, it is telling that this is the first President in recent memory for whom people have felt it necessary point out the accomplishments of.]
1/7/2010 3:04:14 AM
I do not stand fully behind this list as either 100% accomplished by the president alone, nor as 100% good things, I am only sharing the blanket list to dissuade the notion that "this administration will forever be known as a 'do nothing' administration." The problem is it is hard to find a blanket list of things accomplished by the president that isn't written by someone who is a lot more supportive of the president that myself. My only point is at least some of the list & some of the video list are good things.
1/7/2010 3:28:01 AM
"Again, it is telling that this is the first President in recent memory for whom people have felt it necessary point out the accomplishments of."Seriously? Google list president bush accomplishments. Here was my first result, only reposting the first part b/c it was longer than the current administrations list. At the end of ones first year in office it shouldn't be surprising at all that people are making lists of what have been accomplished in the first year. Using the fact the people are making lists of what happened last year at the new year as an attack? I gave you more credit than that.
1/7/2010 3:32:58 AM
Here is a Clinton list:http://www.perkel.com/politics/clinton/accomp.htm
1/7/2010 3:35:58 AM
The difference is, Bush and Clinton both had a very active hand in the Congresses which met while they were in office, President Obama does not.Perhaps it is simply the fact that much was expected of Obama, much more than he could ever hope to deliver, but his habitual habit of apologizing for the United States (right or wrong), his conspicuous absence from the legislative process, his penchant for going out and . . . for lack of a better description . . . campaigning for himself when embattled at home, his proclivity for giving speeches which rarely are backed up with action, and the incessant attempts to attribute to him things which he had no real hand in do not portray the President in a flattering light.
1/7/2010 3:59:47 AM
"falls back on "well I inherited these problems from the last administration."The next section of the Bush list I posted above:
1/7/2010 4:12:47 AM
And don't forget that Clinton had a strong dollar, which helped a lot.
1/7/2010 7:28:18 AM
He may have had a busy year last year, but this one isn't starting out so well for him.
1/20/2010 12:06:10 AM
^what the hell is that about? his second year starts today.
1/20/2010 10:01:26 AM
yep. a busy year of campaigning and not doing anything and taking the credit for whatever Congress does. how fucking wonderful!
1/20/2010 11:22:14 PM
you forgot a couple big things he did this year.1) Closed Gitmo completely by January 22, like he said he would. Oh, wait. fuck.2) Stood up to Russian aggression in Georgia by caving in and pulling missiles out of Poland. Oh, wait. fuck.3) Made quick decisions on Afghanistan by taking 4 months to... Oh, wait. fuck.4) Fulfilled his campaign promise to reach across the aisle by allowing Republicans to be locked out of meetings on healthcare. Oh, wait. fuck.5) Fulfilled his campaign promise to have all the healthcare debate on C-SPAN. Oh, wait. fuck.]
1/25/2010 1:08:25 AM
1) That he responds to new information is a bad thing? As long as he stands committed to no torture, to respecting the Geneva Convention, and to closing Gitmo... I don't care about the specific date so much. You'd rather he releases everyone to Yemen right away?2) For a president who promised to use diplomacy more than missiles this isn't so out of place.3) Making careful decisions about war is a bad thing? Look at what less careful decisions the last president made cost us.4) The GOP want to make healthcare his "Waterloo", they weren't exactly making it easy, especially with their skyrocketing levels of filibuster threats. And the president instructed congress to wait until the newly elected GOP Senator was seated before passing health care legislation rather than jamming it through.5) You've got him there. But then again with the healthcare reform legislation we've seen the sausage being made on a level that is rarely seen with legislation and it isn't like it is being rush through.
1/25/2010 1:49:41 AM
1) 2) He caved in.3) 4) They never even attempted to listen to the GOP. The GOP made their decision to be dicks after they were shut out of the process, not before.
1/25/2010 1:52:39 AM
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1/25/2010 6:40:53 PM
Suuure you would.
1/25/2010 10:30:46 PM
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1/25/2010 11:22:29 PM
^
1/26/2010 2:14:32 AM