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7/15/2009 4:25:43 PM

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7/15/2009 4:34:51 PM

ZOMG, Sergeant Cross is real?!

[Edited on July 15, 2009 at 4:40 PM. Reason : .]

7/15/2009 4:38:11 PM

i should be a cop, but im alergic to bullets

7/15/2009 4:40:38 PM

I can't tell you how many times I rolled up going 15-20 over on the back of the white Camaro and the navy Camaro that used to work the hell out of I-40 all the time. They were easier to spot though with a couple of small antennae on the trunk and strobes visible in the top corners of the back glass (if you were looking for them.) I guess I'll throw the first three digits of this license plate into my memory and keep an eye out for it.

YRV
"You R Violated"

Got it.

[Edited on July 15, 2009 at 4:46 PM. Reason : l]

7/15/2009 4:45:21 PM

i rolled up on a black "marked" tahoe sitting on the side of the road, while i was running 70mph

did not even notice it until i was less than 100 yds away

luckily he wasnt using laser or radar, Valentine V1 never went off, but i was soo busted if he wanted to do anything

7/15/2009 5:07:07 PM

So now I have to keep my guard up for Crown Vics, Impalas, Chargers, Tahoes, Expeditions, and a black Z06, plus motorcycles (like the one that pulled me on Wade Ave. 2 weeks ago) and cops standing on overpasses. Geez....

I also swear I saw a black Marauder sitting next to a marked CVPI (immediately next to, not pulled over by) just after one of those overpass speed traps a couple of months ago, but I thought the only state using Marauders in an LEO role was Florida. Wonder if they scored one from a drug bust or something...another to worry about if so!

7/15/2009 5:32:48 PM

that's just silly. i dont know if i'd be happier or angrier to get pulled by a c6 z06. either way GG RPD.

7/15/2009 5:39:38 PM

^not rpd, wake co. sheriff

7/15/2009 5:46:32 PM

what an excellent waste of money. i mean come on.....a 70k cop car.... are you serious?

7/15/2009 6:05:52 PM

That's bullshit. There is no damn reason at all for them to be using such an expensive cop car (with significantly higher operating costs, etc).

Someone with a beat-up 3/4 or 1-ton truck needs to take a ticket for the team and "accidentally" rear end that 'Vette at a stoplight.

[Edited on July 15, 2009 at 6:11 PM. Reason : <-- NOT IT]

7/15/2009 6:08:44 PM

it's cool, they'll get tired of puttin tires on it every other fill up in no time

7/15/2009 6:51:34 PM

We need to call the news. The local paramedics caught shit for trying to buy a charger just earlier this year.

Even if it comes out that it's a seizure vehicle, the media exposure will make it useless.

7/15/2009 7:33:05 PM

they didn't buy it, and i would think that chargers are cheaper and more efficient than ambulances

7/15/2009 7:52:27 PM

Oh please, a $30,000 muscle car versus a $15,000 crown vic or impala. It's purely an ego thing.

7/15/2009 9:12:33 PM

^^^it is a seizure vehicle. if they even ran a story, i doubt anything would come of it. charlotte already has a cobra and a turbo 350z, clayton has a new mustang gt, etc... it's nothing uncommon for larger cities to employ one or more such vehicles for traffic enforcement/muscle flexing to criminals that they can take your car. i thought i read recently that the ems chargers finally got approved? maybe not...

really, if you think about it, it's not THAT much of a waste. assume they could get $30-35k out of it at auction. i don't know for sure, but i'd be willing to bet a new charger/crown vic isn't a whole hell of a lot less by the time you add all the equipment. it should pwn either of those cars in gas mileage. leo vehicles get fairly religious servicing, so intervals aren't likely to be any different. you could also probably assume it's going to be fairly well taken care of. not spending hours on end idling, running through medians, over curbs, etc. like a regular patrol car.

^^oh, definitely. not to mention better initial response time, and not wasting ambulances on minor calls causing them to possibly miss a major one.

[Edited on July 15, 2009 at 9:19 PM. Reason : .]

7/15/2009 9:18:55 PM

buttttttt....the crown vic is used almost purely for cop cars........so ford offers them major deals on those cars....

7/15/2009 10:16:20 PM

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"i thought i read recently that the ems chargers finally got approved?"

I see those things on the road daily so I"m guessing yes.

7/15/2009 10:24:49 PM

^^i'll bet they don't go for less than $20k apiece, if that low. outfitting them with the equipment/electronics could easily tack another $8-10k on.

[Edited on July 15, 2009 at 10:25 PM. Reason : .]

7/15/2009 10:24:53 PM

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"I see those things on the road daily so I"m guessing yes. "

Cary has a few Chargers

[Edited on July 15, 2009 at 10:36 PM. Reason : .]

7/15/2009 10:36:22 PM

So do they put the patients in the trunk or what?

Seems like a minivan would be better choice for "fast response".

[Edited on July 15, 2009 at 10:39 PM. Reason : If I need a ride to the hospital and they try to put me in the trunk I'mma be pissed.]

7/15/2009 10:38:20 PM

if they need to transport someone they will still call an ambulance, but calls do not always require transport and chargers are much less expensive to purchase and operate. they will still have ambulances, but their fleet will be enhanced with these chargers.

anyone with some common sense would agree its a good idea

raleigh has them too

7/15/2009 10:53:46 PM

FTP BITCHES PLZ

7/15/2009 11:53:27 PM

Type III Ambulance (Majority of Wake Ambulances) - ~ $100-125k without equipment.

Dodge Charger bought from state fleet vehicle contract ~ $21,087 (again, without equipment)

http://www.doa.state.nc.us/PandC/070b.pdf - Page 7

7/16/2009 3:27:38 AM

Jesus. Thank god I got out of Raleigh.

7/16/2009 5:28:58 AM

^^as a comparison: http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1355967.html

fully equipped charger- $50,900
fully equipped ambulance- $145,000

good link. looks like the only thing under $20k is the b9c1 impala, which is a pile of junk in performance comparison, so it's not surprising to see it lower. i did expect there to be more difference in the price of the crown vic/hemi charger though, with the charger commanding a $1-2k premium. that's a no brainer with them so close, the charger is the far superior vehicle.

^oh don't think you're exempt. i've heard of a small fleet of unmarked bmw's running around down there. no doubt some sort of donation from the plant...

[Edited on July 16, 2009 at 6:08 AM. Reason : .]

7/16/2009 6:04:03 AM

I'd love to see one of the crazy twin turbo vette's destroy him

The look on his face would be priceless

7/16/2009 9:10:23 AM

oh, had i not seen that thread, i'd have damn sure unknowingly tried to mess with him if i ever came across him in my car.

7/16/2009 10:47:07 AM

The EMS chargers are not sent instead of an ambulance. They are staffed with paramedics who have been in the Wake County system for a while (I forget the minimum number of years) and aren't really a supervisor vehicle so much as another set of hands with experience and they go to certain high acuity calls (choking, allergic reaction, cardiac arrest..). They decided on chargers instead of tahoes or suburbans for cost and because they don't need the extra room. People were upset with them buying sports cars like that but so far they haven't had problems.

7/16/2009 12:47:47 PM

Unless of course the patient ends up needing transport after all, in which case they are fucked. But they look so damn cool driving them.

7/16/2009 12:49:53 PM

An EMS system I used to work for formally used a quick response vehicle staffed with a paramedic for all calls (we drove chargers, caprices, crown vics, and expeditions). In theory, it cut costs to both the agency and to the patient as anyone who has ever worked in emergency services knows, as many as 30-40% of patients in urban areas do not require transport by ambulance, even though most medical directors would disagree with that figure (its their license afterall, C.Y.A). Ambulances were only dispatched to calls EMD deemed appropriate, while non-emergent calls (alpha, omega, and some bravo calls) only recieved a Paramedic QRV initially.

Wake's APP system serves as a hybrid between a QRV and traditional EMS system. From what I understand its working out very well, with a few exceptions here and there (i.e. a friend who works with Wake told a story about a MVC patient who refused care, the paramedic on scene requested an APP who drove from downtown to Capital and Highwoods, lights and sirens, to have the patient sign a refusal).

Even cooler than the Chargers:

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/321/1456/Motorcycle-Article/Miami-Dades-Motorcycle-Medics.aspx

Apologies for length, didn't mean to get so verbose.

7/16/2009 7:29:39 PM

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"i.e. a friend who works with Wake told a story about a MVC patient who refused care, the paramedic on scene requested an APP who drove from downtown to Capital and Highwoods, lights and sirens, to have the patient sign a refusal"

why didn't the on-scene unit have the patient sign the form? if a patient is coherent and of legal consent age they can refuse transport. the care provider just has to have a witness of a different dept. or even a civilian sign the form but the witness can't be from the same dept. so i can't understand why the app wasn't canceled (or called).

7/16/2009 8:57:21 PM

That's my point, the new system is working well from what I hear, but there are still a few hiccups here and there, like this total waste of the resource and the lack of intelligence by someone to have a vehicle drive full tilt boogie for no reason at all.

The reason given to me by the friend was that his partner thought the APP would be able to talk the guy into going to the hospital.

[Edited on July 16, 2009 at 9:13 PM. Reason : /]

7/16/2009 9:11:19 PM

^^^ That sir, is bad ass. Good post.

7/16/2009 10:43:20 PM

I doubt many EMT's want to ride a bike after scraping squids off the pavement every day.

7/16/2009 11:47:33 PM

Haha you'd be surprised, I have a ton of co-workers who own/want a bike, including myself. Same with ER Nurses and Docs.

7/17/2009 12:00:04 AM

MORE BREAKING NEWS: GM FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY

7/18/2009 9:14:19 PM

I've seen BMW bikes in Charlotte but my new fear is the unmarked mustang I saw in Charleston. Not that it's fast like the Z06, just that I have another car to look out for

7/19/2009 3:10:36 AM

the entire fleet of ncshp bikes will be bmw's eventually, if they haven't already completed the changeover.

7/19/2009 1:48:59 PM

aren't the bmw bikes actually cheaper

7/19/2009 2:16:15 PM

i believe so. certainaly better performing and more efficient.

7/19/2009 2:24:51 PM

Quote :

"what an excellent waste of money. i mean come on.....a 70k cop car.... are you serious?"

seized it from a drug dealer dude

7/20/2009 12:09:14 AM

I dont see why cops wouldnt have a car like this.

I am impressed that they waited until one was siezed to get one though.

7/20/2009 10:59:10 AM

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/5627211/

7/21/2009 11:50:31 PM

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"I dont see why cops wouldnt have a car like this. I am impressed that they waited until one was siezed to get one though. "

i dont think you relize how jewish the county is.

7/22/2009 12:43:03 AM

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"relize"

7/22/2009 6:39:21 PM

saw it on 40 today

7/25/2009 11:12:34 PM

saw it in my rear view!!!!!!!!!!!


they need to put some NOS on that slowvette!!!!!!!!!

7/26/2009 8:59:36 AM

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