http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/opinion/27taylor.html
4/27/2009 1:39:54 PM
This seems to be the big NY Times article of the day, but Dr. Taylor here has generated some interesting discussion on the nature of higher education, particularly at the graduate level. My initial reaction was that this came from a very narrow viewpoint of the university culture, whereas on the science & math side, the cross-disciplinary collaborations are much more common. Just from my own limited CS background, I've worked in labs which involved faculty from computer science, linguistics, psychology, statistics, mechanical engineering, graphics design, business school, and electrical engineering.The cynic in me thinks this is perhaps more an effort to try and get the humanities folks to leave their cloisters and participate in the larger collaborative efforts that the other schools are already involved in... and the large pots of research money that come with it.I think the idea of dissolving departments is a bit silly since you need to build core competencies to begin with. Sort of like in businesses or the military where you have functional chains that train up core competencies and then dispatch their folks to work on joint projects.Thoughts?
4/27/2009 1:40:40 PM
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4/27/2009 3:18:45 PM
^ Well, for folks who have this as a core class as a part of their major, we can make sure that they are able to get into the best class offered by any of the three universities. If somebody is just taking it as an elective or a curiosity, then we would suggest that they take it on-campus for convenience with the option of participating in the distance ed program.Maybe, just a thought, I dunno.I also think most of his views are only true for certain majors and certain departments for most universities. Some of his views are certainly true to an extent for all universities. The point about adding a little more diversity and differing opinions to our core education is a pretty good one. We already have that, to an extent, but our program still turns out a lot of poorly rounded assholes who don't necessarily the ethical considerations of their field or what their work does for people in other fields. As far as his comments about grad school... True, to an extent. In my short stint there I saw some of this in hearing about other folks' research projects and whatnot. Much of my major's work is not abstract garbage like how so and so cited his works. Grad students from the CE department are useful in engineering. I know folks in other departments won't have a lot of use for their master's degree outside of a few specialized fields which they might not want to work in, but I just thought I'd toss that out there to counter that one view.... Yeah... I'm ranting here.Oh yeah, graduate-undergraduate interaction would be rather nice to have in my major. It probably won't happen though because grad students are usually being milked hardcore for their work on research projects (and thus only have time to grade papers and answer a question or two).
4/27/2009 10:43:13 PM
The articles sounds seems applicable to the humanities than the sciences and engineering.1) I don't understand what he has in mind here, seems like he is throwing out buzzwords.2 and 3) Most research universities have strong collaborative institutions, at least in the sciences. This is nothing new.4) Huh? I understand that in some humanities an obscure book is the culmination of dissertation work. Not in the sciences again...at NCSU you write your dissertation, defend it, and it gets loaded to the etd for the world to forget.5) I agree with this. Pure research professors don't have the contacts in industry to help their students. Funding agencies and departments should give their students the leeway to pursue industry related internships and contacts.6) I don't like this idea. Hell, tenure is the only thing that makes the job attractive.
4/28/2009 1:39:31 AM