It's not like I need all that many files to be undeleted. Just stupid me deleted a folder I shouldn't have, but all the undelete programs I can find are $129. All I want is a couple of damn excel files...

OS X please.

and no, no backup measures have been taken. recently, at least.

4/13/2009 12:17:19 PM

CTRL+Z
Recycle Bin
Restore

the oh so wonderful mac os doesn't have these simple functions?

4/13/2009 12:21:38 PM

CMD-Z undid the last thing I did ... after I had done the deed. Yay, I undid a move-object. weeee.

4/13/2009 12:40:19 PM

^^ it does, but once you empty the trash, the files are gone, just like Windows. Unless you use an undelete program

4/13/2009 12:48:01 PM

and are meaning to imply that you can right-click -> restore the recycle bin after it's been emptied?

because you can't possibly mean that opening the trash and just grabbing the files I need was something I just didn't think of. And I'm also sure that no one charges $129 for a program that opens the damn trash and shows you the files in there.

But if there's a built-in Windows function to restore the recycle bin after it's been emptied, then congratulations Microsoft.

4/13/2009 1:03:26 PM

There was a very good freeware undelete/maintenance program I found a few years back... can't remember the name but it's on the tip of my tounge. I'll get back to you if/when I remember it. Not sure if it'll work in OSX, but if the guys who made it updated it even remotely recently then it probably will.


[Edited on April 13, 2009 at 1:23 PM. Reason : .]

4/13/2009 1:16:30 PM

no need to be a dick to me about it. I commented on mac, not you. and how am I supposed to know if you actually have the brains to do one of those three things? I figured someone dumb enough to delete an entire folder, then the recycle bin and never back-up this folder that is so important isn't smart enough to look in the recycle bin, ctrl/cmd-z immediately, or restore the folder.

AND, IIRC, in Vista, you can still restore a deleted folder/file. Figured mac might have this capability.

4/13/2009 1:21:36 PM

This isn't what I used to use, but it looks just as good and should be able to help you out:
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/24747

Was linked to on some mac forum. Second google result for "undelete maintenance programs mac" (without quotes). Not hard to find at all.

4/13/2009 1:23:24 PM

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"no need to be a dick to me about it."

Why not? You were a dick first. I love it when mac haters feel the need to bash something they've obviously never used and don't have the first clue what they're talking about in the first place. Yay ignorance.

4/13/2009 1:26:39 PM

^you can't read to well, can you? I love it when morons make stupid assumptions

1. I was a dick about macs, not to the OP.
2. I've never used a mac? GTFO you shit stain of a troll. I've used macs enough to have an opinion about them.

[Edited on April 13, 2009 at 1:32 PM. Reason : .]

4/13/2009 1:32:08 PM

Quote :

"you can't read to well, can you?"

And apparently you can't write too well.

I don't care how much you've used macs, if you had to ask if they have a recycling bin, then it hasn't been enough. And yes, you were very much a dick to the OP. I don't really see how that's debatable.

4/13/2009 1:35:18 PM

The problem now solved by a third party, the wild Tech Talk Users begin to bicker amongst one another, with the second and fourth parties debating just how much of an argument was being argued.




...Fascinating.

4/13/2009 1:36:04 PM

Quote :

" This isn't what I used to use, but it looks just as good and should be able to help you out: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/24747 Was linked to on some mac forum. Second google result for "undelete maintenance programs mac" (without quotes). Not hard to find at all."

Well, it's cheaper than the ones I found. $90, but still no usefulness until the license is purchased:

"Written specifically for Mac OS X, FileSalvage 6.1 includes powerful features that give the user excellent flexibility and control in data recovery:

Risk free trial version - see what data can be recovered before you purchase."

I've already downloaded a different program that scanned the empty sectors and found everything I want, but in order to actually restore them I need to pony up $129.

Quote :

"I figured someone dumb enough to delete an entire folder, then the recycle bin and never back-up this folder that is so important isn't smart enough to look in the recycle bin, ctrl/cmd-z immediately, or restore the folder."

Quote :

"1. I was a dick about macs, not to the OP."

Sounds to me like you were being a dick to me, not being a dick about Macs. Your initial post clearly implied that I was too stupid to look in the trash for a deleted file.

- I have a backup from about a month ago.
- It's not "so important" -- if it was, I'd be much more willing to pay for an undelete program.
- Since I didn't feel like this thread was going to be trolled, I didn't bother explaining every detail. I just asked for suggestions or recommendations. If you want to know the process for how I deleted it, I can explain. I was moving a handful of folders from one hard drive to another, completed the move, and went back to delete the ones I just moved. I accidentally grabbed one folder too many, threw them in the trash, and immediately emptied. Went back, realized I threw away an extra folder, halted all activity on that drive, and started trying to get it back.

4/13/2009 1:44:22 PM

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"AND, IIRC, in Vista, you can still restore a deleted folder/file"

really? i don't see that functionality. (once the trash has been emptied of course, duh)

4/13/2009 1:51:38 PM

Quote :

"Well, it's cheaper than the ones I found. $90, but still no usefulness until the license is purchased: "Written specifically for Mac OS X, FileSalvage 6.1 includes powerful features that give the user excellent flexibility and control in data recovery: Risk free trial version - see what data can be recovered before you purchase.""

Ah, shit, didn't even see that there. Will keep looking though.


Found the cheapest so far (I think):
http://www.boomdrs.com/?os=mac
Their trial might even do something itself, but unfortunately the site is unspecific on that.

Here's another for about the same price, though their trial version is obviously useless:
http://www.binarybiz.com/vlab/mac.html


[Edited on April 13, 2009 at 3:03 PM. Reason : .]

4/13/2009 2:46:21 PM

Boomerang at least looks promising. I'll give it a shot. What I'd love to see is a program that gives away the first 10 MB of recovery for free. But nooooo......


edit: nope, same thing as the others. It lets me see the files that it found, but insists that i purchase it before i can actually recover them.

woah, weird pricing scheme:
100 MB - $40
1 GB - $80
10 GB - $100
100 GB - $150
250 GB - $200
1 TB - $280

that's almost promising.



[Edited on April 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM. Reason : ]

4/13/2009 3:12:57 PM

If this were DOS, you could just use undelete.
This isn't DOS.

4/13/2009 3:17:39 PM

What I'd like to see is a "trial" version that works perfectly and doesn't care how long you use it...
...like WinRAR, but for file recovery (and in this case, for Mac).

Wish I remembered the utility I used a few years ago... not just for this thread, but so I can install it for myself.

4/13/2009 3:18:06 PM

God bless all the FOSS software for Windows and Linux.

4/13/2009 4:14:05 PM

The people that make CCleaner have a free program called Recova. I haven't tried it though so I'm not sure how good it is.

4/13/2009 4:37:27 PM

is there anyway to guarantee something is deleted "for good" and never restored?

4/13/2009 9:32:02 PM

no, they're going to find your gay kiddie porn

4/13/2009 9:33:14 PM

In reference to 3^

Recova from Piriform, makers of CCleaner is nice. It worked when I used it just to test if it worked, it obviously can't recover files that have been overwritten instead of just stricken from the FAT.

http://www.recuva.com/

4/13/2009 10:05:31 PM

Quote :

"What I'd love to see is a program that gives away the first 10 MB of recovery for free. But nooooo...... edit: nope, same thing as the others. It lets me see the files that it found, but insists that i purchase it before i can actually recover them."

Of course you would, so would everyone else. Which is exactly why the price scheme's work the way they do. Because people are fucking cheap-asses who will do anything possible to avoid paying for software they use. You fit the bill of the vast majority of undelete users, you just want one or two critical files back, and don't think you'll ever need the app again.

It's pretty simple. Pay the money and have the application for the next time you need it, or live with losing your data. I don't think it's some godawful imposition that you have to pay for your own mistakes.

4/13/2009 10:16:50 PM

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"is there anyway to guarantee something is deleted "for good" and never restored?"

drivecrypt has a utility to write random data over whatever section of the drive as many times as you choose. the more times you do, the less likely it is to be recoverable. i've never really seen anything recovered after just once though (although I haven't really looked either)

4/13/2009 10:17:22 PM

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"is there anyway to guarantee something is deleted "for good" and never restored?"

This is what DoD data destruction is for, and it requires grinding your hard drive platters into dust.

4/13/2009 10:27:14 PM

Quote :

"Of course you would, so would everyone else. Which is exactly why the price scheme's work the way they do. Because people are fucking cheap-asses who will do anything possible to avoid paying for software they use. You fit the bill of the vast majority of undelete users, you just want one or two critical files back, and don't think you'll ever need the app again. It's pretty simple. Pay the money and have the application for the next time you need it, or live with losing your data. I don't think it's some godawful imposition that you have to pay for your own mistakes."

Of course. Everyone knows this. But I sure as hell am not going to shell out $130 for the few files I want. That tiered model from Boomerang is solid solution that I didn't see on my initial search. I only need a few MBs. $40 is a much more friendly price. And that's what I was looking for when I made this thread.

Quote :

" is there anyway to guarantee something is deleted "for good" and never restored"

In OS X there's the "Secure Empty Trash" option which overwrites the deleted items with random bits. Theoretically it's completely secure and all overwritten data is completely destroyed.

4/14/2009 9:24:59 AM