http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/111308-cisco-asr-9000.html?fsrc=netflash-rss

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" As Cisco remains tight-lipped on details of its new Carrier Ethernet router, competitors are highlighting what they perceive to be the product's deficiencies. Cisco this week unveiled the ASR 9000, widely believed to be the successor to its eight-year-old 7600 series router in Carrier Ethernet aggregation and service applications. The company says it is capable of 6.4Tbps of bandwidth with 400Gbps per slot, six times the capacity of competitive offerings. But Cisco did not discuss how or when it can deliver those 400Gbps per slot, nor did it detail the actual interface line cards and port densities to be housed in the ASR 9000 chassis. After three follow-up attempts to gather these details, all Cisco would say is that the ASR 9000 will support, but is not limited to, Fast Ethernet, 1 Gigabit Ethernet, 10 Gigabit Ethernet and 100 Gigabit Ethernet. Therein lies the problem with the new router, competitors say: It's big on hype, small on reality. If it were a cowboy, it'd be all hat and no cattle. Competitors also say it will be years beyond the initial first quarter of 2009 shipping date for the ASR 9000 to reach that 6.4Tbps potential. "Focusing so much attention on forward-looking capacity claims ignores some of the factors that customers consider most important in the edge -- namely, feature richness and operational efficiency and consistency," a Juniper spokesman said, adding that Juniper has shipped its 300 MX-series Ethernet routers to 300 customers in less than two years at 40Gbps per slot, with "readiness" to 100G. "The capacity claims are future-based hype," says Lindsay Newell, vice president of marketing in Alcatel-Lucent's IP division. "The ASR 9000 reality is not even parity with Alcatel-Lucent's shipping products." At initial release, the ASR 9000 may support eight I/O slots with 40Gbps performance per slot -- or an overall system capacity of 320Gbps, Newell believes. Alcatel-Lucent's 7750 Service Router is shipping at 500Gbps, he says. Also, Cisco's claims of harnessing the power of its new QuantumFlow processor (QFP) for ASR 9000 services, such as video, session border control, subscriber management and virtual private LAN switching, may be a shell game, Newell notes. "There is nothing announced today that is based on Cisco's much hyped QFP silicon," Newell says. "The video module is based on [Cisco's 2006] Arroyo [acquisition]. No line card details were announced, but they're rumored to be based on EZ-chip. Where is the QFP?" Other competitors question the edge-readiness of the ASR 9000's operating system, IOS-XR, which first emerged as an operating system for the core. "Can IOS-XR support a full suite of edge services?" asks Jeff Baher, senior director of product marketing at Ericsson's Redback subsidiary. "In our experience as a vendor, it really requires a purpose-built OS versus a complicated operating system strategy with various flavors of IOS. This drives operations people nuts because they have to chase bugs and manage changes across multiple operating systems." Cisco claims to have added "rich" edge features to IOS-XR specifically for the ASR 9000, such as session border control, VPLS and subscriber management. Dell'Oro Group expects Carrier Ethernet router and switch sales to exceed $5.5 billion by year-end, a 25% increase from a year ago. Cisco, Alcatel-Lucent and Juniper are the Nos. 1, 2 and 3 players in the market, according to the firm. "

11/13/2008 2:20:48 PM

i would like to know this

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"But Cisco did not discuss how or when it can deliver those 400Gbps per slot, nor did it detail the actual interface line cards and port densities to be housed in the ASR 9000 chassis."

we're looking at getting some nexus switches soon... they're pretty awesome.

11/13/2008 2:26:16 PM

Well they still dont have functionality on the USB ports on sup32's yet (maybe even sup720's too, but I cant remember)

Kinda defeats the purpose of buying the technology if the selling points dont even function. I presume that was one of the articles point.

11/13/2008 2:30:32 PM

i wont believe it until i see it

11/13/2008 2:32:59 PM

^ more so my point, but the capability is still pretty surprising.

11/13/2008 2:33:43 PM