It was a matter of time

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dm-elitexc102008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns


Elite XC down for the count

By Dave Meltzer, Yahoo! Sports 9 hours, 45 minutes ago

Yahoo! Sports

Elite XC, which produced seven of the 10 most-watched MMA matches in U.S. history on two CBS specials in recent months, will be closing its doors at the end of the week, leaving a roster of fighters, including top-draws Kimbo Slice and Gina Carano, looking for work in a constricted environment.

Elite XC joins the International Fight League and Bodog Fight as high-profile competitors to the industry leader, the Ultimate Fighting Championship, to fold during the past year.

With deals with CBS and Showtime, the latter a major shareholder, Elite XC had the exposure the other failed challengers lacked, but lost more than $55 million in its two years of operation. Its losses included having a bad television deal in the first year with Showtime, causing them to lose money on every show; losing millions on trying, and failing, to build a website that was designed to be a destination for the MMA community; and purchasing four promotions outright and putting money into a fifth.
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One of them, the U.K.-based Cage Rage promotion, set them back $18 million in losses.

“I got a call earlier [Monday] telling me they were shutting down,” said Frank Shamrock, who was a television commentator, a main event fighter and a shareholder in the promotion.

Elite XC’s two biggest attractions, Slice and Carano, are unlikely to be moving to the sport’s highest-profile group. UFC president Dana White has repeatedly said he won’t use Slice, who made his reputation as a backyard streetfighter on YouTube videos but is not the caliber of even a mid-level MMA pro. White also has said he’s not interested in promoting women’s fighting, although Carano’s success as a draw may cause him to reconsider. Her match with Kelly Kobold two weeks ago ended up adding more new viewers than any MMA match on television in the U.S.

Several agents for fighters have been in contact all day with the UFC. Some, like welterweight champion Jake Shields, would be welcomed into the promotion.

It had been widely known that due to the losses, and the inability to raise new capital, that the Elite XC would either be sold to Showtime or be forced to fold by the end of the year. Others within the company said bankruptcy papers would be filed.

Kelly Kahl, the CBS senior executive vice president of programming operations who oversaw the three Elite XC events on the station, declined to comment on the situation.

It is not known if CBS will start its own MMA company or strike a deal with one of the two companies left standing, the UFC or Affliction. Affliction was a sponsor and co-promoter of the Oct. 4 show, paying for the Andrei Arlovski-Roy Nelson match. The other active match promotion, Strikeforce, has a late night television deal with NBC, which has had preliminary talks with the company about doing live events.

The Elite XC sale was believed to be close to completion heading into the Oct. 4 show on CBS. The show was a ratings success, beating both Major League Baseball playoff games and both major college football games in the target male 18-49 demographic, but left the brand tainted due to a controversy stemming from the main event.

CBS funded the event because Elite XC didn’t have the money to continue while negotiations for the sale continued.

Ken Shamrock, scheduled as the opponent of Slice, got into a money argument with Elite XC officials before the show, and then, to blow off steam, did a training session in which he suffered a cut above his eye that required stitches. When he returned from the hospital, the Florida State Boxing Commission wouldn’t allow him to fight.

Seth Petruzelli, a journeyman fighter in a light heavyweight preliminary match, was chosen as the fill-in opponent for the 236-pound Slice, and the scenario couldn’t have gone worse, as Slice charged in, Petruzelli threw a jab on one leg and still knocked Slice down, and finished him with punches on the ground in 14 seconds.

While CBS officials were thrilled with the ratings, a controversy over a radio interview done by Petruzelli looks to have foiled the purchase.

“The promoters kind of hinted to me and they gave me the money to stand and trade with him,” Petruzelli said two days after the fight on “The Monsters in Orlando” radio show. “They didn’t want me to take him down.

“Let’s just put it that way. It was worth my while to try and stand up and punch with him.”

The next day Petruzelli said that what he meant was that he was offered a bonus for a knockout. Jeremy Lappen the head of operations for Elite XC confirmed Petruzelli got a knockout bonus, believed to be between $20,000 and $30,000 to go along with his $35,000 guarantee and $15,000 win bonus, but not a submission bonus.

A media outcry followed, with accusations a company official tried to manipulate the fight in favor of Slice, even though it backfired, leading to an investigation by the Florida Department of Business and Professional Regulations. The question was whether Petruzelli was offered a bonus to not take Slice down, which would be illegal, as opposed to a knockout bonus, which is legal and not uncommon.

With the investigation started, Showtime pulled out of negotiations and people inside the company were being told all day that Elite XC was shutting down.

Keith Kizer, executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, said Monday that he had not received word that the next show, scheduled for Nov. 8, in Reno, Nev., had been canceled.

But the website Graciefighter.com, which represents Cesar Gracie, the manager of Nick Diaz, who was scheduled to fight next month, wrote Monday night, “We are confirming that Elite XC has folded. What this means for our fans and supporters is that there will not be a Nick Diaz vs. Eddie Alvarez fight on Nov. 8.”

[Edited on October 21, 2008 at 12:07 PM. Reason : .]

10/21/2008 12:06:24 PM

yes, as has already been covered:
http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=541800&page=2

10/21/2008 12:12:27 PM

this thread is more about Elite XC than Kimbo and Shamrock

[Edited on October 21, 2008 at 12:25 PM. Reason : thx tho]

10/21/2008 12:19:05 PM

Quote :

"White also has said he’s not interested in promoting women’s fighting, although Carano’s success as a draw may cause him to reconsider"

come on dana!!!

10/21/2008 2:30:35 PM

it wont happen


i feel really bad for the female fighters and for the fans that wont get to see gina and cyborg go at it. I dont feel bad for Kimbo and the rest of the males because hell theylll find orgs that will take em in there are thousands of professional organizations. The females have very few opportunities to fight, much less get an equivalent payday.


I hope Gina, cyborg and the other femaled can take their act to strikeforce or that affliction will start a womens league...otherwise it will be VERY difficult to catch their fights

10/21/2008 3:56:45 PM

MMA fights for prime-time exposure

By Beau Dure, USA TODAY

The demise of EliteXC leaves prime-time network mixed martial arts in limbo, along with fighters such as Gina Carano, Kimbo Slice and Robbie Lawler. Yet the sport still has a presence on the networks.

Strikeforce announced last week that its Oct. 18 Strikeforce on NBC show drew more than 1.1 million viewers. The show airs late Saturday nights and is available in roughly 80% of TV markets, says the organization's director of communications, Mike Afromowitz.

What Strikeforce does not have is a nasty rivalry with UFC president Dana White, who danced on EliteXC's grave last week and jabs away at pay-per-view rival Affliction. White says Strikeforce, a slowly expanding California promoter that is building on experience in kickboxing and other martial arts, runs a great business.

"I hope they do 10 million viewers next week," White says. "Have you heard me say a bad word about Strikeforce? I wish them all the luck in the world. I have nothing bad to say about guys who are running the right promotion."

Says Afromowitz: "We have nothing but admiration for what (White) has done," he says. "He's overcome tremendous barriers. I've been in the sport for about 10 years, and I've watched UFC grow since Zuffa (White's company) took it over."

Another fighting company expanding out of California is thriving under Zuffa's umbrella. World Extreme Cagefighting, now focusing on lower weight classes, has several replays on Versus and live shows such as the Nov. 5 card with featherweight champion Urijah Faber and middleweight champion Paulo Filho.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/mma/2008-10-29-mma-prime-time_N.htm

10/30/2008 12:14:01 PM

interesting

10/30/2008 10:38:37 PM

so why does ufc keep getting screwed?

10/31/2008 2:26:58 PM

It's not that the UFC is getting screwed, they are big enough and making enough money that they aren't willing to whore themselves out to be on network TV.

IIRC, eliteXC got basically nothing to be on CBS except for exposure.

The UFC would rather keep doing their thing that put on G rated free productions just so that they can get on CBS.

10/31/2008 3:02:19 PM

Quote :

"The UFC would rather keep doing their thing thatthan put on G rated free productions just so that they can get on CBS."

THANK YOU!!!

[Edited on October 31, 2008 at 5:04 PM. Reason : .]

10/31/2008 5:04:11 PM

Flipping through the channels and I just saw Kimbo Slice on this Nickelodeon show. I lol'd

12/14/2008 7:36:23 PM

Kimbo is apparently going to fight in K-1

too soon for him, not evn most of the MMA elite can just jump into K-1

his management is just horrible, i feel bd for the guy hed almost be better off in the hands of the entourage he had in his bbq brawl days

12/14/2008 7:46:04 PM

dana white ran his mouth for months about how big of a joke Kimbo Slice is.

I THINK DANA WHITE SHOULD JUMP INTO THE RING WITH KIMBO SINCE DANA THINKS HE'S SUCH A PUSSY


[Edited on December 14, 2008 at 10:44 PM. Reason : ...]

12/14/2008 10:44:08 PM

lol in that case kimbos gonna have to wait in line


cuz dana would still have to fight Rampage, Ricardo Arona, Nick Diaz, Matt Lindland, Krazy Horse Bennett, Ken Shamrock, Frank Shamrcok, Josh Barnett, and Fedor


and thats just off the top of my head

12/14/2008 10:46:50 PM

I mean I know Dana is cocky and all but he has no fighting credentials and has dogged the shit out of kimbo from day 1.

Kimbo's a fraud
Kimbo's not a UFC fighter
Kimbo has no spot in the UFC

Money talks Dana and I know that regardless of how much he disses Kimbo, but a Kimbo/Lesnar card or even a Dana White/Kimbo card(never happening) would be the most watched UFC event ever. I am hoping they put whatever aside and put a Lesnar/Kimbo card together.

12/14/2008 11:38:52 PM

hell i think i remember him dogging brock before he signed him to the UFC

danas a child, if u arent in his org youre no good

add pat militech to the list

[Edited on December 14, 2008 at 11:43 PM. Reason : d]

12/14/2008 11:42:39 PM

Quote :

"I am hoping they put whatever aside and put a Lesnar/Kimbo card together."

why would anyone want to watch Kimbo? he is garbage. Lesnar would destroy him.
I dont remember Dana talking shit about Lesnar but White is, IIRC, a legit boxer. Hell, he was going to fight Tito but Tito backed out.

12/15/2008 9:37:05 AM