I've got an ever growing collection of piss spots on my front lawn and I'm sure most of them are from my 4 y/o female black lab mix.

I did some searching on google and this seemed like a well written article on the subject: http://plantanswers.tamu.edu/turf/dog_lawn_problems.html

So I know the *best* ways to deal with this problem are following my dog around with a pitcher of water and/or training my dog to pee in certain spots. And while I've been working on the training side, I'd also like to try some dietary supplements to help out. Along these lines, has anyone used any supplement that reduced the browning?

Assuming it is nitrogen that's causing this, reducing protein intake and encouraging more water consumption (started using tomato juice for this) is all I can think of. Any other ideas? Whats worked for you?

10/14/2008 12:46:35 AM

have a gravel "pee" area in your yard. water it often. it'll be your own rock garden.

10/14/2008 1:04:58 AM

PETSAFE INSTANT FENCE - PIF-300 WIRELESS DOG FENCE !!!

http://tinyurl.com/42t5gd

Maybe?

10/14/2008 1:16:28 AM

I would just be happy with the fact that your dogs is pissing outside instead of on your carpet....

10/14/2008 2:57:21 AM

^

10/14/2008 5:56:09 AM

i've battled this for years with my two dogs and tried various products and supplements.

this stuff works:
http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2752899

- It takes a few days before it starts working
- you have to give em to your dog every day
- make sure your dog gets plenty of water, this stuff makes them really thirsty.

[Edited on October 14, 2008 at 7:08 AM. Reason : qw]

10/14/2008 7:07:38 AM

^^^

10/14/2008 8:52:49 AM

^^hmmmm...i think i may even try that out. our dog doesn't get nearly enough water though...it's out all the time, she just rarely drinks.

10/14/2008 9:01:23 AM

i use this
http://www.petco.com/product/10866/Nutri-Vet-Nutritionals-Green-Grass-Supplements.aspx

similar to the other supplement, but in a soft chew. my dogs are picky and won't eat anything weird like a tablet. it's easy to give, they eat it happily, and it works.

10/14/2008 9:26:14 AM

^

yeah that's a good point, the hardest part is finding one that your dog will eat willingly.

I just throw the pills in with their dog food and they don't notice. They don't touch them if i try to feed it to them by itself.

10/14/2008 9:58:03 AM

I live on a golf course so my grass needs to be green... I just have trained my dog to go in the natural area by my house...

It pisses me off though... last time I mowed my grass, there were damn brown spots in my lawn near the common area... i think some fucker is walking his dog on the course, and letting it piss on my property. i can't wait to catch him.

10/14/2008 10:10:03 AM

^ report his ass with pics to the HOA, plus lawyer up to get a lawn company out there.

10/14/2008 10:27:34 AM

This is why we have boy dogs. They don't turn the trees yellow.

10/14/2008 11:17:30 AM

but they hump stuff

10/14/2008 11:21:10 AM

^Yeah...if you let them get away with it...which we don't, and we've never been humped.

10/14/2008 11:42:22 AM

oh you've been humped... you just haven't caught him in your sleep yet.

10/14/2008 11:56:16 AM

i would not recommend altering the health of your dog for the sake of green grass by taking some nutriceutical.

Think about it for a second. You're risking the health of your animal by altering natural function, so some glorified weeds on your property remain green.

just dilute the urine w/ a hose everytime your dog pees

10/14/2008 6:59:29 PM

I knew someone would come in with a hippy comment like that.

10/14/2008 7:26:50 PM

i've been called a lot of things, but hippy isnt one of them.

maybe you're confusing hippy w/ educated.

10/14/2008 7:34:17 PM

lime did my yard a lot of good with regard to the same problem.

10/14/2008 8:22:59 PM

^^

10/14/2008 11:10:54 PM

I take it the dreaded rolleyes are an indication that you'd readily create polyuria/polydipsia in your dog, w/ no idea of the consequences, just for the sake of green grass?

feel free to look up some other of my posts to get an idea of what my thoughts on animals are, and I imagine you'd be hard pressed to classify any of them as hippy.

you can call me what you want, but altering bodily function in a pet for the sake of landscaping is asinine.

[Edited on October 14, 2008 at 11:32 PM. Reason : adsf]

10/14/2008 11:31:23 PM

It could also be all the crabgrass that is dying this time of year.

10/14/2008 11:36:40 PM

^^For the record I completely agree with you, but then I don't own a dog, and our lawn didn't yellow when we did have one, and she peed all over the fucking place.

Just a total hippy comment. Dogs aren't people, and we take medications as people for even more silly things daily.

10/15/2008 2:32:54 AM

Dogs aren't people
Dogs aren't people
Dogs aren't people
Dogs aren't people
Dogs aren't people
Dogs aren't people
Dogs aren't people
Dogs aren't people

10/15/2008 7:15:08 AM

you should just put it down.... I KID

10/15/2008 10:09:52 AM

Quote :

"you'd readily create polyuria/polydipsia in your dog"

any evidence that those grass saver pills cause any certain illnesses?

10/15/2008 1:22:10 PM

any evidence that they dont?

the guy that brought em up said himself that they make the dogs thirstier. that right there tells me polydipsia/polyuria, and further tells me that it has altered normal kidney function.

nutriceuticals arent FDA approved and their claims arent usually backed by any science, and they sure arent regulated.

some people dont have a problem with using nutriceuticals. i'm not a very big fan of them.

10/15/2008 1:50:02 PM

you're just an alarmist faggot.

Salty foods make me thirstier, OMG SOUND A FUCKING ALARM.


3 years of giving my dogs those pills, and they're as healthy as can be. Go do something more productive and jerk off to some PETA ads.

10/15/2008 1:59:45 PM

how fucking dense are you?

i work for an animal production company as a vet. Do you really think I have anything in common with PETA? If you need some futher clarification, I am in the meat business, so to speak.
This is a special kind of retarded you're displaying.

what i'm trying to illustrate, that you're just not getting, is I dont look at nutriceuticals and assume they're ok until proven otherwise. I avoid them unless they are proven safe and effective.

You, and many others, may have dogs that do OK on that product. Congratulations.

I'm just not willing to take the chance with these products, for the sole purpose of green grass.
what about that is alarmist? you're absolutely altering kidney function and urine pH with no knowledge of side effects or long term consequences.

I've run across a few of your posts from time to time here, and you've posted some reasonably intelligent stuff.
But you've somehow stumbled into a truckload of waterheadedness and seem intent on coating this thread with it. You couldnt be more wrong and more off base if you actually tried.

10/15/2008 2:11:39 PM

what you don't get is that

I DONT CARE.

I like green grass.

I like my dogs.

I feed my dogs shit that keeps my grass green.

I could give two shits and a fuck if there is some infinitesimal chance that my dog will have some reaction to it. You're acting as if i'm feeding them hershey bars or some shit.

10/15/2008 2:46:17 PM

Let me clear this up and ill even forgo all interweb tough guy talk (although I do get a good giggle every time I get to type faggot or fuck).

My intent was to inform the OP of a view from a more learned and experienced background than your own anecdotal evidence. Quite honestly I know more about it than you.

I'm not real concerned with the fact that you specifically give this med to your animals. So consider my first post here as merely a counterpoint to your view, not as a condemnation of your decision(ok that sounds a little hippy)

You'll notice my previous post I use phrases like "I'm not willing" and "I'm not...".
I don't see any "you shoulds" or any you shouldnts"

Ill still keep my belief that its not a great idea, but what you do with that information is your business

[Edited on October 15, 2008 at 4:53 PM. Reason : guybtal]

10/15/2008 4:50:00 PM

ok i'll ask again:

Quote :

"any evidence that those grass saver pills cause any certain illnesses?"

10/15/2008 10:22:25 PM

my response was to ask a similar question: Is there any evidence that they dont?

truthfully I doubt there's evidence either way.
My point in all of this, is that there's more to consider than just popping a pill in your dog, and, voila', green grass.

you have to essentially decide whether you're willing to risk causing harm to your dog for the sake of green grass.

My experience and education tells me I'd much rather deal with brown spots on my lawn than renal complications in a pet.

10/15/2008 10:49:13 PM

fucking hippy.

10/16/2008 12:11:02 AM

fantastic

10/16/2008 12:11:38 AM

found a link that may be some help

http://notalwaysright.com/actually-fido-is-a-weapon-of-mass-destruction/16

10/16/2008 12:22:07 AM

Quote :

"my response was to ask a similar question: Is there any evidence that they dont?"

the burden of proof is on you

10/16/2008 9:56:16 AM

Some good stuff in here:

http://plantanswers.tamu.edu/turf/dog_lawn_problems.html

10/16/2008 10:20:00 AM

I'm pretty sure I addressed that in the sentence immediately following what you quoted

The burden of proof is not on me. I'm trying to help you see how I look at these products that are not tested or regulated. My first reaction is to assume they're unsafe and then look for proof that they are safe.

The converse of that is assuming they're safe and go looking for proof that they're not. That's just not a valid way of thinking for me.

If you assume unsafe and are wrong, you're either left with brown grass or more time spent with a hose.

My point is are you willing to risk assuming safe and being wrong.

Like I told bobby, in the end I'm really not concerned with what you do with your dog. I was just trying to discourage the glib manner in which this was being discussed

10/16/2008 10:20:40 AM

The entire reason you irritate me is that your only point is

Quote :

"Is there any evidence that they dont?"

That is such a fucking asinine argument.

Is there any evidence that my dog food doesn't have antifreeze in it ?
Is there any evidence that the water i put in my dog bowls doesn't have lead in it?
Is there any evidence that the dog shampoo i use to bathe them doesn't have battery acid in it?

Who the fuck knows? But if you're going to assume that something is unsafe just for the sake of being an argumentative, alarmist fuck, and claiming to know so much, you're going to have to do better than "Is there any evidence that they dont?"

10/16/2008 11:23:07 AM

Your inability to recognize the validity of an argument does not make it asinine. I fully explained the rationale behind that line of thinking, but in your rush to get all internet bad on me, you must have missed it.

Your other arguments about what may be present in everyday products is not a valid one. Assuming that everday products are adulterated with toxins would in fact be alarmist. Doing so would lead to a fear paralysis and I'm not advocating anything of the sort. In this case were not talking about the presence of toxins, bit rather that the intended treatment may itself be harmful. Surely you see the difference there. Its not that the pills may have melamine in them, its that intended contents themselves may cause unwanted effects.

I'm not sure why I irritate you with my argument. My previous post I clearly laid out my philosophy. I see a product with certain claims and I'm dubious of both the claims and the safety, unless proven otherwise. An alarnmist reaction to this would be to call for this product to be banned and to make false claims about its safety in the absence of scientifically valid evidence. I expressed concern about the product based on your claims, as well as the products claims. At no time did I urge the complete avoidance of the product. What I did was caution that using this product may not be as simple and risk free as it sounds. Nothing alarmist there. But I understand fully comprehending what I type does not provide you the opportunity to don your internet badass cape and go a cussin and a faggotin. simply ignoring what I type affords you that opportunity, and we've seen how important it is to you.

In short you can probably chalk this up to the burden of knowledge on my part. I imagine life is much easier when you can make decisions, unencumbered with that burden. I guess I'll have to take your word for it.

Does this help at all?

10/16/2008 11:57:04 AM

^your argument is not valid.

10/16/2008 12:33:56 PM

Outstanding

10/16/2008 12:45:16 PM

im trying the grass savers tablets...status report to come whenever im brave enough to let her try it again.

10/27/2008 11:07:46 PM

Quote :

"but they hump stuff"

If you get your male dog neutered early enough they don't hump. My dog doesn't hump anything or anyone.

10/27/2008 11:13:16 PM