Anyone have experience with this?

Going through the filevault app and decrypting the home folder doesnt work.

Ive read that you have to log in, save your home folder to an external hard drive, create another admin account, copy home folder in new account, delete old account, profit.

Does anyone have experience with this or know of a better way?

Any advice would be appreciated.

7/28/2008 1:22:28 AM

what

you are having problems with your mac?

i thought they were infallible

7/28/2008 8:11:53 AM

hey aficionado

that response is getting old.

and yes, wut, that's basically how you have to do it.

7/28/2008 8:55:36 AM

hey evan

that response will never get old as long as people that own macs think their shit doesnt stink

[Edited on July 28, 2008 at 9:00 AM. Reason : there ≠ their

7/28/2008 9:00:33 AM

i've never claimed that things don't go wrong with os x

they merely go wrong much less often than they do with windows

this is true of any *nix OS

7/28/2008 9:07:45 AM

where did i say anything about something that you claimed?

7/28/2008 9:13:41 AM

Quote :

"people that own macs think their shit doesnt stink"

i am not one of these people

7/28/2008 9:22:14 AM

ha

out of all the people on this website, you are the first that comes to mind when i type that phrase just based on your posting history

its ok though

7/28/2008 9:26:18 AM

Well I installed the latest security updates and I figured I try to un-filevault my mac one more time since I just added 4GB of memory and wouldnt ya know... the bitch worked without a problem.

Yeesh...

8/5/2008 5:04:12 PM

the solution to this problem is obviously to add more ram. duhhh!

8/5/2008 5:16:08 PM

Quote :

"hey evan that response will never get old as long as people that own macs think their shit doesnt stink"

8/5/2008 6:38:50 PM

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"i've never claimed that things don't go wrong with os x they merely go wrong much less often than they do with windows"

Anecdotal fallacy.

I've owned a Mac Mini for less than two weeks. It's locked up, crashed and fucked up more in two weeks than in my entire time using Vista, XP and 2000 combined.

8/5/2008 9:56:02 PM

^so says the Microsoft Employee. lol

I've owned a Powerbook G4, Macbook Pro, 24" iMac...and have a mac mini at work and I've never had any serious issues that I've had with windows. Sorry to burst the ole microshaft bubble but OS X >>> Windows as far as stability

8/5/2008 10:01:10 PM

ive had to send my powerbook back to apple 4 times because stuff kept dying on it. the hard drive, the display twice, and then the whole motherboard got zapped. they refused to accept the fact that it was a lemon and give me a replacement

ive had a dell p4 since 2001 and nothing on it has ever failed

8/5/2008 10:02:54 PM

^what is your point? Electronics break and there are lemons. I've had plenty of PC laptops that have been lemons.. Not saying they don't have problems...because my brother's iMac was a lemon which they replaced.

My macbook pro has had its power adapter catch on fire (almost, it was glowing red on the cable near the magnet as it melted the protective layer) and i've had it replaced for free. I've never once bought apple care but have had excellent service with the 1 year warranty.

8/5/2008 10:06:51 PM

Look, I've used Macs professionally since 1998. G3 desktops, G4 desktops, G5 desktops, Mac Pros, and now the Mac Mini.

Pre OSX, Mac's were ridiculously unreliable. Post OSX they are the same as everything else.

and ^^^ is just bullshit. You don't get kernel panics from installing an application in windows. You don't get a completely hosed system from installing 3rd party drivers in windows. Like I said, you have a personal experience, I have a personal experience.

There are no numbers that say Windows is more or less stable, or more or less error prone than OSX. There are customer satisfaction comparisons, but that is just relaying the experience of a customer when they DO have a problem in getting it resolved.

By that logic, Apple being at the top of the heap would seem to imply that they have a LOT of problems (which they do). Apple just charges enough money to offset the support costs.

[Edited on August 5, 2008 at 10:10 PM. Reason : . ]

8/5/2008 10:08:26 PM

Quote :

"and ^ is just bullshit. You don't get kernel panics from installing an application in windows. You don't get a completely hosed system from installing 3rd party drivers in windows. Like I said, you have a personal experience, I have a personal experience. "

umm what?

and your post reak's of Microshaft employee.

8/5/2008 10:10:08 PM

it pissed me off that i paid $texas for the 3 year warranty and they dicked me over by not replacing the lemon. they kept placing the blame on me. "oh, your display is going bad? you're doing something wrong, obviously"

the display is starting to mess up again so it's only a matter of time before it quits working altogether. oh, and the switch to know when the lid is closed and to put the computer to sleep is broken, so the computer wakes up all the time when the lid is closed, gets real hot and drains the battery until it runs out of power

8/5/2008 10:10:24 PM

^i've never bought apple care but I was just recently informed that you don't have to buy it when you purchase the product (or within the return policy). You can purchase it anytime within the first year. Which I would have done for my macbook pro had i known that earlier.

8/5/2008 10:12:59 PM

im planning on getting the mac book pro when the supposed new model is released. i will buy it at best buy and get their in-house warranty so i dont have to deal with the pretentious apple guys. if it breaks, let best buy handle it. if they cant fix it, i get a new one.

8/5/2008 10:16:30 PM

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"You don't get a completely hosed system from installing 3rd party drivers in windows"

bull
shit.
a completely tested/fully baked driver sure, no issue in windows. of course, no issue in any os. 3rd party drivers and apps are 90+% of the issues people have with their computers regardless of OS as there's no standard or set of regulations before linkin a bin or some source on the net

8/5/2008 10:38:20 PM

^Tell that to the now three USB wireless cards I've tried. All have WHQL certified Windows drivers. All have "OSX" support. All of them cause lockups, file corruption, and general system instability.

Quote :

"umm what? and your post reak's of Microshaft employee."

no it doesn't. It "reaks" of truth, because I've used both platforms in the real world and can evaluate them both without being a retard fanboy. There's NO difference in REAL stability.

8/5/2008 10:45:42 PM

so it's then... fully tested for windows (where it doesn't break things) and has been identified to work in some sort of setting in osx, but it's not fully tested/baked in the osx environment (where it does break stuff)? basically echoing exactly what I just said...

8/5/2008 10:52:02 PM

^The problem is, ALL 3rd party devices for OSX seem to be a Wild West of reliability.

In windows, the worst case scenario on a bad driver is booting into safe mode, disable device, remove driver, reboot.

In OSX, if there's something fugged up, the average person has to format the machine. Otherwise prepare for hours of trudging through terminal commands and manual cleanup.

8/5/2008 10:56:08 PM

Quote :

"There's NO difference in REAL stability."

hahahahahah

8/5/2008 11:20:12 PM

All anyone ever has is anecdotal evidence. And for every Mac fanboy, there's a Windows fanboy with the opposite anecdote. I've never seen any RESEARCH to show one system is more stable or reliable than the other.

I'm not saying Windows is reliable or stable. I'm saying OSX isn't either.

8/6/2008 12:05:02 AM

A properly patched copy of XP on a desktop I own is by far the most stable system I've used. That being said, my macbook is significantly more stable and less "quirky" than my dell laptop (with a properly patched version of XP.) In the second case it's shitty firmware and drivers from dell and has nothing to do with XP.

Vista can also be pretty solid, assuming the drivers you're using are all up-to-date and thuroughly vetted. I think the problems people have had with Vista can be likened to the problems people have with poorly supported 3rd party devices with OSX. They're generally not the fault of the OS- assuming proper patching. I've used both OS's and various linux distros for a good while now and my meaninglessly limited anectdote based judgment is that the user experience for either is just about as good assuming the user knows that they're doing. That's the key though since most people, therefore most users, are idiots. The only reason I can really think of to recommend Mac OSX over Vista is that it's harder for someone who doesn't know what they're doing to get a virus or malware on their Mac. The only reason I'd recommend OSX over Linux for someone is that telling an average user they should switch to linux is like putting print warning labels on power tools marketed towards the blind.

I've never really understood the passionate love of either. Hate? Sure, I understand hate. You always have a moment where you want to chuck your computer out the window. If you say you never have, you're either lying or a eunuch.

[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 12:23 AM. Reason : ]

8/6/2008 12:22:35 AM

Quote :

"^what is your point? "

how about many mac users claim that macs are perfect and never have problems, and windows has nothing but problems?

8/6/2008 6:54:56 AM

I'm starting to think Noen has never used either OS and is posting from work.

I have yet to see OS X do a hard lock that requires a reboot. The worst case is "force quit" an app that actually quits the app instantly, unlike "end task now" which takes 30 tries and a reboot to fix.

Also never had issues with drivers on Mac OS X.

You can't deny that Mac OS X is more stable and more user friendly then Windows. I'm no fan boy of either but I at least have an informed opinion because I've been using both for a long time. And I don't work for either company.

8/6/2008 10:47:49 AM

WindowsXP SP3 is amazingly solid. As it should be by SP3.

Vista has issues. Absolutely. They'll get worked out or the OS will be replaced (see: WindowsME)

OSX is amazingly solid.

Linux is a rock. No surprise there.

8/6/2008 10:52:35 AM

Linux and OS X would be my choices for a stable environment and increases productivity.

8/6/2008 10:54:07 AM

Define "solid". My top 3 activities on a computer are:

1. Autocad/Solidworks
2. Gaming
3. Media

Depending on who you talk to OSX/linux could be very not solid. I know you're speaking in general as an operating system and work environment but compatibility should also be taken into consideration. If i can't natively run 2/3 things i do on a computer the OS is useless to me.

8/6/2008 11:11:24 AM

Mac OS X as far as doing design work, web development, etc is very stable. I can run photoshop + illustrator along with my development environment, tabbed terminals, 2 browsers for testing, Adium, iTunes and not have any issues...even switching between 'spaces' is no problem. This is on 2gb of ram on a Intel Core Duo Macbook Pro.

I'm not talking gaming...obviously. But in windows I have more problems doing the same thing then I would want to deal with...which is why productivity on the Mac is higher than on windows because I don't spend half the time trying to "end task" and rebooting.


All I'm saying is if I want to play games, windows is the obvious choice because there aren't any other good alternatives (besides consoles which is actually my gaming platform of choice right now). As far as doing any kind of productive work...windows is NOT my first choice. Of course some applications don't run on anything but windows...

[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 11:18 AM. Reason : .]

8/6/2008 11:16:21 AM

^^People should use what they feel comfortable with, and what runs their programs, obviously.

[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 11:17 AM. Reason : .]

8/6/2008 11:17:14 AM

I grew up and am comfortable with both, it's just hard to have a reason to ever use OSX because if not i'm using autocad/solidworks i'm playing games. I guess i could boot it up to use photoshop or browse/chat, but it seems silly to keep switching between operating systems.

Quote :

"Mac OS X as far as doing design work, web development, etc is very stable. I can run photoshop + illustrator along with my development environment, tabbed terminals, 2 browsers for testing, Adium, iTunes and not have any issues...even switching between 'spaces' is no problem. This is on 2gb of ram on a Intel Core Duo Macbook Pro."

Just built a media center pc with a core 2 duo and 2 gigs of ram. Have no trouble running photoshop, autocad08, media center, 1080p blu-ray, bunch of IE browser tabs, Digsby (ram hog), and total commander on Vista 64. Never had it freeze, crash, or anything. XP on the other hand gives me shit all the time on my laptop and at work.

-In fact in terms of stability and multitasking my mom has a 15.4" c2d macbook pro with 2 gigs of ram and that thing is slow when there's a lot open. I don't know if it's due to the HDD speed or the OS or what. Plus she's had more issues on that thing then she's ever had on a pc. The guys at the Mac store in Charlotte have got to be sick of her by now. She's been a pc user her whole life, then a year ago she decided to get a Macbook Pro because she's a photographer and it's the "thing" to do, and she still can't figure out how use it to even half the efficiency of her pc. Maybe she needs to go to a mac class or something. Do they have those?

[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 11:31 AM. Reason : .]

8/6/2008 11:26:21 AM

^pretty much...the only reason I have to use windows anymore is because of IE testing.

8/6/2008 11:28:22 AM

^Now I know you're trolling.

GG

8/6/2008 1:17:42 PM

^actually...no...this is not trolling. If you're offended that windows sucks then i'm sorry. But the real fact of the matter is...using OS X is a much better user experience for a variety of people because it is more stable and a lot easier to use.

^^^didn't see the edit but yes...they do have mac classes at the mac store. When my parents bought my sister a Mac to switch from PC i told them to also buy her the 'classroom' gift card too...

[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 1:23 PM. Reason : .]

8/6/2008 1:20:54 PM

Are you guys seriously doing an OS war AGAIN?

8/6/2008 1:28:43 PM

there is no war.

8/6/2008 1:31:14 PM

8/6/2008 1:42:34 PM

^^exactly there's no war.

Windows has always been on top and it's much more compatible with the majority of users. I don't care how user friendly OSX is, i still find windows more configurable, more compatible, doesn't treat me like i'm an idiot, and it runs the all the programs i want it to, which OSX does not. Yes people have issues with windows but people also have issues with OSX. I gave my mom as an example because i know plenty of people who are not satisfied when they find out OSX is not compatible with what they want to do, and the hardware isn't cheap to upgrade.

On a business end it's just silly to go in that direction. Sure OSX is good for a small group of people and i enjoy using it on occasion but it's in no way as compatible and business friendly as windows is.

If apple starts offering a stand-alone OS, and developers start taking it seriously in terms of business applications in all fields (cad in my field), and games then i'm sure i'd consider running it, but right now it doesn't do anything i want it to.

Sure you can say it might be more user friendly to a certain group of people, and might be a better developer platform for a certain group of people, but as Noen has said a few times windows has always been a more friendly platform to develop on with many more tools for your average developer, and i don't think he's saying that just because he works for Microsoft. Just compare Window's legacy support to Apple's.

^pepsi sucks!!!

[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 1:56 PM. Reason : .]

8/6/2008 1:50:30 PM

^the point isn't to make it easier for developers...its to make the end result easier for users. Which apple does really well.

8/6/2008 2:06:46 PM

The point is, unless you can show me data that OSX is reliable, and then data showing it is MORE reliable than Windows, I don't believe either part.

Your PERSONAL opinion doesn't mean shit to me, because I have PERSONALLY used more Macs, for a longer period of time, in more environments, than you have. So show me some data, or shut the hell up. You are spewing fanboydom and nothing more. Trolling at it's best.

8/6/2008 2:11:48 PM

^^But what about the people who want to play games, or use a big chunk of software and business applications that don't run on OSX?

Or what about people who want to build thier own desktop or just buy the OS? It's not "easier" for them. It's more of a hassle, and more expensive. Sure it's easier for a small group of people who don't have as many needs, but for everyone else it's like buying a boat that doesn't float. If it doesn't do what you want it to then it's pointless.

Aside from all that i don't like how OSX is set up, i think it's annoying and i prefer Window's interface. I'm able to get things done faster, and be more productive. Plus i think OSX's main feature, the Dock is bloated and inefficient. It's a waste of space and there's no reason for it to pop up like i can't see or something. Sure you can turn it off but i don't like how the menus are set up and the menu bar is also annoying.

8/6/2008 2:14:34 PM

i'm with you in pretty much everything you said in the last 2 posts

but the last paragraph is personal aesthetic preference

i could say that i detest the blocky angularness of pc interface design and that i find it square and obtuse

but that's simply preferring an apple over an orange

[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 5:34 PM. Reason : ]

8/6/2008 5:15:35 PM

shallow and pedantic

shallow and pedantic

8/6/2008 9:31:30 PM

^^i was exaggerating i don't hate the OSX interface, but i don't like it's default settings. Just like people don't like the default UAC settings up vista.

8/7/2008 10:59:27 AM

this has gotten retarded.

wut, if you still need help, feel free to make a new thread.

8/7/2008 11:41:57 AM