hitting and killing that lady with his car or did he post bail? It sucks that it seems like every year there's always some nut job who gets behind the wheel and thinks they can operate a car.....Whats the latest on his status...anyone know?
5/11/2008 2:46:26 AM
you mean this guy i went to hs with?
5/11/2008 2:47:04 AM
yea
5/11/2008 2:52:32 AM
i like how regardless of alcohol levels, people are still being run over by a few things1. bad drivers2. the pedestrians dont fucking look where they are goingsuch as tonight, black dude running to the office runs out infront of me with not much room between me and the car infront of me and yells at me, hold on cracka
5/11/2008 3:04:49 AM
^^^ "erin putz"
5/11/2008 3:24:00 AM
i'd guess hes out on bailhttp://wral.com/news/local/story/2806179/
5/11/2008 3:24:16 AM
i am lazy and need a story.whats up
5/11/2008 3:29:04 AM
kid went out for his 21rst b-day got trashed...passed out...woke up decided to drive home, he was still drunk from the night before, swerved and hit a lady on a bike, killing her. I have met the woman he hit, I know people that were close friends of hers. Her friends lost a good friend the kid lost any hope of a normal life.[Edited on May 11, 2008 at 3:34 AM. Reason : clarity]
5/11/2008 3:33:19 AM
He hit her at around 11 in the morning, and he blew a .12. He probably didn't even know that he was still drunk from the night before.
5/11/2008 6:16:23 AM
oh damn...i didnt know it was a hangover type thing...i thought he was like drinking at 11am cause it was his bday and planned on drinking throughout the dayyou know, one of those "beer before noon" kinda people
5/11/2008 7:04:48 AM
yeah either way that's a crappy story man...one life lost and one life taht will never be gotten back..
5/11/2008 11:59:13 PM
that dude was a complete and total waste of flesh, and i thus feel no sympathy for him. serves his ass right. feel bad for the old lady's friends, family and such though...
5/12/2008 12:45:54 AM
then we could say a large majority of the people who drink are total wastes of flesh. because i guarantee most people who drink have probably driven drunk without meaning to. it was the next morning. if you've ever driven home the next morning you could have still been legally intoxicated. alcohol takes a while to get out of your system. yet its all fine and dandy unless you're the one to hit someone.
5/12/2008 1:46:00 AM
i'm not judging him by that one incident. i've known him since freshman year (i'm a senior). i've seen him maybe 25 times, and each time he was on the verge of puking he was so drunk.
5/12/2008 1:48:43 AM
5/12/2008 1:51:29 AM
so basically as long as it was an accident that you drove drunk, its okay? i dunno, my keys go up after ~2 beers. don't care if i'm feeling buzzed or not. it ain't worth it.
5/12/2008 1:53:21 AM
NO i don't think he's absolved from wrongdoing (obviously) i'm just saying that people seem highly judgmental (and fine whats his face up there has known him for awhile). but my point is, just because someone does something wrong doesn't mean they are the scum of the earth. like someone else stated the woman and her family's lives are ruined but so is that kids (and deservedly so) but i don't think he is without family friends, either. plus i guess i just think it is sad that someone who is 21 just threw their entire life away. i get that other people don't think that way. that is fine whatever. but there is something inherently tragic about a lot of crime---they affect more than just the victim. and what does it say about society as a whole that people are so quick to condemn another person?but if you've read the other threads about this then you have seen people talking about how he deserves to die, etc etc. its just a holier than thou attitude like no one else has ever done anything wrong. clearly this is a worst case scenario type of thing. but i just mean that most people have probably done something reckless/irresponsible before and have gotten LUCKY that nothing horrible happened/they didn't get caught/etcand i didn't say that it was ok if it was an accident [Edited on May 12, 2008 at 1:59 AM. Reason : .]
5/12/2008 1:59:18 AM
^true, this is a pretty typical screw up in life we all commit some time or another. lol
5/12/2008 2:01:17 AM
the people hating on this guy are prolly the same kinda people that dont have sympathy for casual pot users that get caught
5/12/2008 2:03:20 AM
It's sad that a kid has basically thrown his life away, yeah... but at some point you have to take responsibility for your actions.I'm no saint. I've done things that I've regretted and that other people would probably have problems with but if I would have affected other peoples well being I'd like to thing I'd be able to take responsibility for that... I'm sure this kid feels the same way.. and I doubt I'd want people to feel sorry for me.Accidents happen every day on the highways I take to work. They involve people changing lanes without looking, swerving to avoid a ladder on the road, etc, etc... driving home after a long night of drinking is accident too.. but unlike the others, one that can be avoided. That is the distinction that I make...^ you're a fucking idiot if you think that.. there is MAJOR difference b/t a victomless crime and one that takes an innocent life.[Edited on May 12, 2008 at 2:06 AM. Reason : x]
5/12/2008 2:05:11 AM
i'm not necessarily talking about feeling sorry for HIM. i'm talking about the fact that people are jumping all over him saying that he should be executed/die/doesn't deserve to live etc. clearly accidents happen and clearly responsiblity has to be taken for them. i was just pointing out how interesting it is that people are so quick to condemn and say "yea lets execute him"especially when there have already been 3820849238 threads on it. it just shows a lack of intelligence and an indifference to human life which is arguably what HE displayed when he chose to drive drunk. its just irritating how much better people think they are and that they have the ultimate authority to judge the actions of others. its more of a personal observation really. i'm not saying i feel sorry for him. or that he shouldn't be punished. i'm just saying that there IS a difference between an incident like this which results in death and an say, an eve carson type incident where someone was brutally murdered. yet people are advocating that the punishments be the same.
5/12/2008 2:13:15 AM
so what do yall think should be his punishment? i say 3 years on good behavior....american history x style
5/12/2008 2:14:06 AM
well, there are a lot of stupid people... they're the minority...I never react to the outliers... it's the people with rational thoughts that are worth my time.V I'm not familiar with NC DUI law anymore... whatever it outlines... I don't see his case any different from any other case.. If he is truly regretful and will make a change in his life I hope he gets that chance...[Edited on May 12, 2008 at 2:16 AM. Reason : x]
5/12/2008 2:14:18 AM
so what do you think his punishment should be???????????????????
5/12/2008 2:15:15 AM
5/12/2008 2:15:56 AM
thankfully i didnt kill anyone lol
5/12/2008 2:17:44 AM
i'm not saying he should be executed etc etc. that's just plain retarded. i'm saying that i've known him to do things while drunk that should not be done, and this just happens to be the time something bad finally came of it for him. this is incomparable to the eve carson thing. no where near is bad. he killed someone by ACCIDENT. unfortunately it was a result of his own stupidity.if anything it puts things in perspective. here's this 21 year old kid, no different from any of us, who has completely ruined his life as a result of one stupid mistake.
5/12/2008 2:27:34 AM
i feel 3 years cause right now are the best years of his life so taking more than 3 for someone who otherwise might be a productive member of society seems fairlock him up for his 3 best years...he learns a lesson and gets out by 25 and can resume trying to have a normal life[Edited on May 12, 2008 at 2:31 AM. Reason : point of prison is to rehabilitate and i feel 3 years fairly does that]
5/12/2008 2:30:51 AM
5 years in prison, and 2000 hours of working in a alcoholism prevention clinic for teenagers with substance abuse issues, and after serving his time he should be done. B/c we all make mistakes, and God-knows Ive made some as well-it's just how you respond after the dumb mistake has been made.....
5/12/2008 2:19:30 PM
depends on the judge
5/12/2008 2:23:04 PM
Suspended license, probation and 500 hours community service.
5/13/2008 2:30:48 AM
5/13/2008 7:36:05 AM
^ theres a difference between breaking the law, and being punished unfairly for it. pot is one of the best examples. people getting jail time for a nigh-harmless drug possession. you dont get jail time for speeding unless your doing something crazy like 100 over. and how much over the limit do you go? do you always use corners and crosswalks or do you jaywalk when its clear? everyone breaks the pidly laws every day. the more they are broken, the less they can be enforced and the less meaning they have. theres a line, but popular demand can slowly inch that line towards where the majority of people feel it should be. illegal or no
5/13/2008 7:55:01 AM
it amazes me how long it takes people to realize that people will argue over everything on tww, even when they aren't trollinghave i drove drunk before? yephave over 90% of my friends drove drunk before? yepnot gonna lie about it and they wouldn't either...but we grew up & learned its worth the few bucks & hassle of getting a cab & moved onthis guy didn't learn the lesson in time, but to come off w/ the holier than thou routine isn't gonna change anyone's opinion on this you may proceed to flaming me......now
5/13/2008 7:55:33 AM
^^DOESN'T MATTER. If you are caught with drugs, and I don't care how much of it, you still broke the law. If cops want to right me a ticket for jaywalking, then I can't complain, because I BROKE THE "PIDLY" LAW. I don't give a shit how pidly. I got pulled for 70 in a 55. Did I bitch and complain about how I shouldn't be given a ticket cause it's "pidly" law, especially since the speed limit was changing from 55 to 70 in less than 100 yards? NO! I joked about it, but I didn't whine.Besides the real matter here is that some 21 year old idiot was drunk and made the decision to drive, and killed a woman. He broke the law, he was drunk, and is old enough to know better. So I don't care if he gets put away for years, it was his choice[Edited on May 13, 2008 at 8:20 AM. Reason : BORKE, LOLLERZ]
5/13/2008 8:20:18 AM
15 over isnt piddly. 5-8 is depending on the situation. hell, going 5 under can be too fast if the situation is bad. im not contesting that reid is fucked and should be, but 100% compliance with the law wont ever happen. and it damn well shouldnt unless the laws are perfect. it takes common sense on the part of the citizen, the law officers, and the courts to realize when something is an offense, and when something is BS. otherwise, we'd only have citizens, and snipers to take them out for every offense.
5/13/2008 8:28:52 AM
I wish they would start putting breathalysers in all cars because otherwise its just a guessing game around the .08 level. I'm sure there are reasons why they haven't that I am not aware of but it seems like it would help. I think the field sobriety test was a good measure as well.
5/13/2008 8:35:57 AM
I'd rather see drunknloaded executed than this guy.
5/13/2008 8:39:07 AM
^^ One big reason is that what happens and who's liable if you crank your car while blowing .07, and while you're driving it goes up to .08, accident, someone dies? You could sue the manufacturer of the device. Or what if it malfunctions and lets you drive and you're unaware that you're over .08 and you believe you're legally fine to drive? Sue the manufacturer.Therefore, they're going to add a cushion. So you have a beer at dinner and your car won't start even though you're blowing .04.That is a really, really bad idea.
5/13/2008 8:52:14 AM
i like the breathalyser idea, but make it an option in cars. or i might just buy one. you can get pulled for DUI (the lesser one, whichever it is) after blowing a .01 if you are driving like an idiot. not being to the .08 level doesnt mean you are fit to drive.also, field soberity tests dont always work unless the person is really damn drunk. most of the time the cops use those to keep the person occupied while they are getting the breathalyser ready.
5/13/2008 8:58:42 AM
the breathalysers don't take into account that you can simply drink after starting the car
5/13/2008 9:00:17 AM
^ haha, well thats either a long ass time you are idling your car, or a whole different set of charges.
5/13/2008 9:01:45 AM
his picture exudes douche
5/13/2008 9:02:18 AM
I was thinking of having the breathalysers in the car as a reference and not to start the car like the required ones. Or maybe they could have them at bars so you can check before you leave. I'm sure this would be expensive though. I just know I would use them. I could also just buy my own. How much do they run and how long do they last?
5/13/2008 9:14:21 AM