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Grandmaster
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http://backhand.uchicago.edu/Center/ShooterEffect/shooter001.swf

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/06/opinion/06kristof.html?em&ex=1207800000&en=558f8ec768ff90cb&ei=5087%0A

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"The University of Chicago offers an on-line psychological test in which you encounter a series of 100 black or white men, holding either guns or cellphones. You’re supposed to shoot the gunmen and holster your gun for the others.

I shot armed blacks in an average of 0.679 seconds, while I waited slightly longer — .694 seconds — to shoot armed whites. Conversely, I holstered my gun more quickly when encountering unarmed whites than unarmed blacks.

Take the test yourself and you’ll probably find that you show bias as well. Most whites and many blacks are more quick to shoot blacks, no matter how egalitarian they profess to be. "


Biased or not, my reaction time blows.

Your Score: 335
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:713.4ms
Black Unarmed:808.36ms
White Armed:746.84ms
White Unarmed:843.44ms

4/9/2008 9:12:24 AM

EMCE
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While it's true that Implicit Association Tests (IAT's) are used to find out whether or not people show biases, generally speaking the simple reaction time isn't enough. The reaction times for many people have to be taken into consideration, as well a statistical analysis run to assess whether or not there is a significant difference, power, to what degree, etc....

...just sayin'

4/9/2008 9:17:15 AM

Grandmaster
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says the colored man!


obviously, i kid.

4/9/2008 9:19:03 AM

EMCE
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but yeah, I've read a few journal articles where they use IAT's to show a few different things.

One of them dealt with interviewer - interviewee biases. It was found that the interviewer usually shows a bias when it comes to black and white interviewees. They measured this by seeing how far away they chose to sit from them when first meeting them.

Another one dealt with stereotypes, and the overcompensation of them

Another dealt with how we unknowingly treat people that are sick (as in illnesses that will kill you).


interesting stuff

4/9/2008 9:22:57 AM

Grandmaster
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indeed.

4/9/2008 9:24:17 AM

baonest
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Game Over
Your Score: 525
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:659.76ms
Black Unarmed:738.8ms
White Armed:665.92ms
White Unarmed:683.08ms

its not even about the skin color (couldnt even tell which colors some where). its about whats in their hands.

btw wait til all the stuff load, i clicked the screen a little to early

[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 9:29 AM. Reason : ]

4/9/2008 9:27:37 AM

Senez
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Game Over
Your Score: 435
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:614.56ms
Black Unarmed:704.96ms
White Armed:535.64ms
White Unarmed:659ms

Interestingly...I am more afraid of armed white men and unarmed black men if you want to take this at face value.

Part of the problem as well was the shitty pictures and me trying to discern what the hell they were holding half the time.

I should also point out that this was my second attempt. The first go round I was shooting cell phone holders and holstering the guns. I was like negative eleventy billion before I restarted.

[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 9:29 AM. Reason : ]

4/9/2008 9:27:45 AM

SymeGuy69
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Game Over
Your Score: 375
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:752.04ms
Black Unarmed:828.64ms
White Armed:848.52ms
White Unarmed:917.6ms

OMG I'M SO RACIST!

4/9/2008 9:31:20 AM

Spontaneous
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I started off with a negative score, which depressed me. I couldn't finish.

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"Part of the problem as was the shitty pictures and me trying to discern what the hell they were holding half the time."

4/9/2008 9:31:46 AM

mkcarter
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Your Score: 475
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:626.84ms
Black Unarmed:838.4ms
White Armed:650.84ms
White Unarmed:673.72ms

4/9/2008 9:32:30 AM

ParksNrec
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Game Over
Your Score: 600
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:697.04ms
Black Unarmed:818.6ms
White Armed:699.28ms
White Unarmed:737.56ms

4/9/2008 9:37:39 AM

Arab13
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Your Score: 160
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:545.36ms
Black Unarmed:596.12ms
White Armed:546.88ms
White Unarmed:766.36ms

i r teh suk

4/9/2008 10:09:21 AM

Nrallen
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Game Over
Your Score: 590
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:701.68ms
Black Unarmed:839.08ms
White Armed:705.48ms
White Unarmed:834.4ms

4/9/2008 10:24:04 AM

AndyMac
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I just shot all the black dudes because i figured they would be packing heat somewhere anyway.


seriously though
I got shot like 6 times

Game Over
Your Score: 235
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:660.08ms
Black Unarmed:807.2ms
White Armed:705.16ms
White Unarmed:826.84ms

4/9/2008 10:38:13 AM

DirtyMonkey
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Quote :
"Part of the problem as well was the shitty pictures and me trying to discern what the hell they were holding half the time."


seriously, could they maybe not have chosen the shittiest pictures ever? i think the test showed nothing about racism, and more about are you quicker at successfully determining if a person is armed or not armed. i was much quicker when i was sure that someone was holding a gun.

p.s. i can tell


from the pixels

4/9/2008 10:38:49 AM

baonest
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yeah, those pics were def. photoshopped.
you cant have that many gunmen in one spot.

4/9/2008 10:42:22 AM

BridgetSPK
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Your Score: 465
Average reaction time:
Black Armed: 743.06 ms
Black Unarmed: 862.64 ms
White Armed: 795.88 ms
White Unarmed: 854.68 ms

According to the test, I have 60.78 ms of racism against black people.

I shot like three unarmed black guys in a row.

Oh, you're just getting out your wallet? I bet you stole it.

BAM BAM

[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 10:44 AM. Reason : ^^LOL]

4/9/2008 10:44:14 AM

DiamondAce
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Wait, was I not supposed to shoot the unarmed blacks?

4/9/2008 10:45:09 AM

MeatStick
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Game Over
Your Score: 445
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:622.32ms
Black Unarmed:709.72ms
White Armed:581.28ms
White Unarmed:725.44ms

4/9/2008 10:46:19 AM

baonest
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Game Over
Your Score: -1195
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:105.84ms
Black Unarmed:147.32ms
White Armed:159.88ms
White Unarmed:111ms

i hit z and / consecutively (well, more random than anything).

i wanna know if there are more black guys than whites on that test.

[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 10:47 AM. Reason : ]

4/9/2008 10:46:46 AM

DirtyMonkey
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^ johnny cochran to the rescue

4/9/2008 10:47:42 AM

tsavla
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Quote :
"Game Over
Your Score: 410
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:671.32ms
Black Unarmed:725.56ms
White Armed:656.88ms
White Unarmed:705.32ms"


4/9/2008 10:51:24 AM

DiamondAce
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For the first 10-15 people I was moving the cursor over the person to shoot 'em. Damn you first person shooters!

Game Over
Your Score: 490
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:560.56ms
Black Unarmed:702.04ms
White Armed:584.64ms
White Unarmed:749.36ms

4/9/2008 10:54:14 AM

buttseks
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the game is racist, if you shoot all the black guys, and the white guys with guns, you end up with a score of 0

4/9/2008 10:54:51 AM

ComputerGuy
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Game Over
Your Score: 555
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:669.48ms
Black Unarmed:710.2ms
White Armed:680.68ms
White Unarmed:699.68ms

4/9/2008 11:06:14 AM

IRSeriousCat
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Game Over
Your Score: 600
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:529.92ms
Black Unarmed:563.24ms
White Armed:514.72ms
White Unarmed:582.36ms

You guys have some really shitty reaction times.

Also, i'm curious as to how often a black innocent is shot in comparison to a white innocent. i shot 3 innocent blacks and one white.

4/9/2008 11:14:36 AM

TheCapricorn
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I killed everyone. Fuckin' assholes.

Game Over
Your Score: -500
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:120.64ms
Black Unarmed:123.72ms
White Armed:105.72ms
White Unarmed:163.4ms

Interesting that even though I just tapped the '/' really fast the entire time, there is a substantial difference between the times. I guess when you deal in milliseconds there is going to be some random noise in the average...

[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 11:27 AM. Reason : ]

4/9/2008 11:24:59 AM

evan
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Game Over
Your Score: 525
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:682.92ms
Black Unarmed:1208.92ms
White Armed:695.48ms
White Unarmed:745.2ms

my fucking full screen alarm clock came up at 11:30 and it was on an unarmed black dude

4/9/2008 11:32:57 AM

ddf583
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Quote :
"Game Over
Your Score: 600
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:674.4ms
Black Unarmed:828.88ms
White Armed:691.12ms
White Unarmed:725ms"


I just went through it again to get a good look at the people. A good portion of the of the black people are dressed like "thugs" while a large portion of the white people are dressed in "business casual" clothing. I think it would have been more effective to hfiave everyone wearing the same thing, or a few different outfits.

[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 11:53 AM. Reason : .]

4/9/2008 11:41:42 AM

f1001978
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Game Over
Your Score: 645
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:673.68ms
Black Unarmed:775.8ms
White Armed:729.68ms
White Unarmed:742.32ms

4/9/2008 11:54:43 AM

lmnop
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Quote :
"Are you racist? Take the test."



I couldn't concentrate for long enough to finish that long ass game but I leave poisoned watermelons in the parking lot of KFC all the time. I don't know what you'll make of that.

4/9/2008 11:56:07 AM

ncWOLFsu
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Game Over
Your Score: 575
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:578ms
Black Unarmed:651.12ms
White Armed:572.6ms
White Unarmed:636.4ms

4/9/2008 11:58:41 AM

furikuchan
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Your reaction time is always going to be a little bit slow between armed/unarmed just due to your hand dominance and the nature of the task. In other words, for me, because my left hand is the one on the "holster" button, it's always going to take a little bit longer to process and hit that key, so my time for the unarmed guys was longer.
Hmm, so what if we did a similar task, but asked people their handed preference? Interesting idea for a perceptual study.

4/9/2008 12:19:44 PM

TenaciousC
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Your Score: 600
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:656.48ms
Black Unarmed:735.88ms
White Armed:661.4ms
White Unarmed:703.76ms

4/9/2008 12:25:42 PM

ActionPants
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Game Over
Your Score: -1215
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:625.4ms
Black Unarmed:603.64ms
White Armed:689.76ms
White Unarmed:626.08ms

What this didn't tell me anything!

[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 12:33 PM. Reason : .]

4/9/2008 12:26:48 PM

Mr Grace
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this is dumb. you have to look at whats in their hands, not their race.

4/9/2008 12:39:39 PM

LudaChris
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Game Over
Your Score: 575
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:522.12ms
Black Unarmed:580.16ms
White Armed:526.84ms
White Unarmed:577.8ms


Pretty even numbers.

4/9/2008 1:09:42 PM

Mindstorm
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Haha, I can't see shit.

I'd play that if I could see what they were holding better.

4/9/2008 1:23:35 PM

aikimann
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Your Score: 650
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:656.8ms
Black Unarmed:750.36ms
White Armed:650.92ms
White Unarmed:663.76ms

Looks like I gave the unarmed black guys a break. Though on one pic I had an IM window flash which I think explains that.

HIGH SCORE BTW!

But I feel like the error bar on these times due to only 30 people in each category (assuming even distribution) may be big enough to make differences in a lot of people's times statistically insignificant.

[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 3:10 PM. Reason : ]

[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 3:12 PM. Reason : ]

4/9/2008 3:09:53 PM

LRlilDaddy
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are there really people out there that dont know if they are racist or not???

if you need a test for that, then maybe you have bigger issues.... such as being honest with yourself

4/9/2008 3:13:11 PM

jbrick83
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Only two true tests for racism (for white people):

1) Do you know the specific number of black friends that you have?

2) Fill in the blank: People that annoy you? Answer: n_gger

4/9/2008 3:14:03 PM

Ernie
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This test has nothing to do with racism and everything to with the ability to determine whether someone is holding a gun or a can of soda.

4/9/2008 3:17:23 PM

Donogh5
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from the article:

Quote :
"Take the test yourself and you’ll probably find that you show bias as well. Most whites and many blacks are more quick to shoot blacks, no matter how egalitarian they profess to be."

4/9/2008 3:20:38 PM

LRlilDaddy
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are there any soda guns?

Quote :
" Well, first I was gonna pop this guy hanging from the street light, and I realized, y'know, he's just working out. I mean, how would I feel if somebody come runnin' in the gym and bust me in my ass while I'm on the treadmill? Then I saw this snarling beast guy, and I noticed he had a tissue in his hand, and I'm realizing, y'know, he's not snarling, he's sneezing. Y'know, ain't no real threat there. Then I saw little Tiffany. I'm thinking, y'know, eight-year-old white girl, middle of the ghetto, bunch of monsters, this time of night with quantum physics books? She about to start some shit, Zed. She's about eight years old, those books are WAY too advanced for her. If you ask me, I'd say she's up to something. And to be honest, I'd appreciate it if you eased up off my back about it."

4/9/2008 3:25:41 PM

swoakley
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^My first thoughts exactly.

4/9/2008 3:36:39 PM

l24ch
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they should have at least placed everyone in the center. half the time i'd lose points for being too slow when i didn't see a person on the screen cause he was balled up in the corner
also they should tests for differences in left handed/ right handed. i'm right handed and i shot a lot more than not

4/9/2008 3:37:39 PM

ThePeter
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Game Over
Your Score: -850
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:408.32ms
Black Unarmed:420.76ms
White Armed:430.48ms
White Unarmed:416.16ms

i suck at this game i react too fast

4/9/2008 3:40:38 PM

Walls1441
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Game Over
Your Score: 105
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:689.96ms
Black Unarmed:788.76ms
White Armed:702.16ms
White Unarmed:732.32ms

4/9/2008 3:44:43 PM

JT3bucky
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Game Over
Your Score: 650
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:714.72ms
Black Unarmed:785.72ms
White Armed:712.64ms
White Unarmed:766.88ms

4/9/2008 3:57:26 PM

erice85
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Game Over
Your Score: 465
Average reaction time:
Black Armed:604.32ms
Black Unarmed:736.96ms
White Armed:786.56ms
White Unarmed:665.68ms

4/9/2008 4:26:13 PM

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