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deerpark101
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haha, loved the line by Clinton tonight

2/21/2008 10:29:51 PM

roddy
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I thought is was really rehearsed and fell flat

2/21/2008 11:12:57 PM

skokiaan
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paid off by the xerox lobby

[Edited on February 21, 2008 at 11:28 PM. Reason : Let's talk specifics about xerox policy, am I right???]

2/21/2008 11:27:34 PM

ActionPants
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Yeah when a friendly crowd boos you that's when you know your lines are working

2/21/2008 11:51:27 PM

Socks``
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http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/21/hillary-on-obama-change-you-can-xerox/

Actually it was mostly applause, with a few boos at the end from loyal cult members.
"How dare you make fun of our dear leader!"

[Edited on February 21, 2008 at 11:56 PM. Reason : ``]

2/21/2008 11:55:18 PM

Sputter
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Do you think that Obama will ask his followers to start calling him something like the exalted one, fuhrer, or maybe god? I bet that if he asked them to call him god, they would do it.



but hillary is a bitch. I really wish that Obama had a more responsible economic plan because I would love to vote for the guy...but I just can't right now.

[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 12:01 AM. Reason : df]

2/21/2008 11:58:06 PM

ActionPants
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Yep I'm certain that will happen

You caught us!

2/21/2008 11:59:59 PM

JoeSchmoe
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uh... it seems we've been found out.

I'm gonna have to report this to The Campaign

2/22/2008 12:07:24 AM

ActionPants
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b. HUSSEIN obama, yes, psychic emanations from Saddam's decaying corpse are coalescing around every human named Hussein and infecting them with a desire to kill jews and shit on the bible, that's absolutely right, fuck if I'm going to fall for this covert muslim 'hope' and 'unity' shit, look out for BARACK NICOLAE HUSSEIN OSAMA CARPATHIA everybody

2/22/2008 12:11:00 AM

ActionPants
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Furthermore this is clear lobbyist pandering and I WILL NOT STAND FOR IT

http://data.state-machine.org/committees/C00207258

$29,000 : XEROX CORPORATION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (X-PAC) of DC

sponsor: XEROX CORPORATION

pac contributions: $29,000 total
$5,000 on 2005-03-24 to LIEBERMAN, JOSEPH I, D of CT
$5,000 on 2006-11-02 to CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM, D of NY
$5,000 on 2006-08-07 to SHAYS, CHRISTOPHER, R of CT
$5,000 on 2006-09-21 to JOHNSON, NANCY L., R of CT
$3,000 on 2006-09-07 to SLAUGHTER, LOUISE M, D of NY
$1,000 on 2005-10-21 to ENZI, MICHAEL B, R of WY
$1,000 on 2006-09-20 to KUHL, JOHN, R of NY
$1,000 on 2005-03-18 to SLAUGHTER, LOUISE M, D of NY
$1,000 on 2006-09-21 to REYNOLDS, THOMAS M, R of NY
$1,000 on 2005-05-06 to BOEHNER, JOHN A, R of OH
$1,000 on 2006-11-06 to DAVIS, THOMAS M III, R of VA

[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 12:54 AM. Reason : no this is not serious fyi]

2/22/2008 12:53:19 AM

Kainen
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I fucking hate the right wingers and hillary supporters who have tried to reduce Barack down to this bullshit.

It's sad that folks are so easily brainwashed. Not by Obama and his attempts to uplift but by people who spout out this week's talking points and memes like a little parrot and who'd rather paint hope and inspiration as dangerous fanaticism because they want their guy elected instead.

2/22/2008 1:10:51 AM

Sputter
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Quote :
"It's sad that folks are so easily brainwashed. Not by Obama and his attempts to uplift"



you pretty much admitted that you have been brainwashed here, but I guess if you know it then it isn't all that effective.


YES WE CAN ...... say over and over again what Obama tells us to.

2/22/2008 8:20:15 AM

mathman
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HRC is my only hope. Keep her in it so we can win it.

2/22/2008 8:28:24 AM

Kainen
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Sputter that last point was pretty much laughable. Come to the table with something significant next time. Good lord son.

Your deconstruction of Barack is bullshit and you know it.....in fact, keep an eye on the articles this weekend so you'll get more cannon fodder crap to hurl at Barack in the attempt to find something not to like about him.

There's two words that describe your line of thinking -- 'loser tactic'

[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 9:29 AM. Reason : --]

2/22/2008 9:29:04 AM

sarijoul
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she was asking for this sort of treatment when took that shit line to the debate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuEDkqVvpkk

2/22/2008 9:37:50 AM

Sputter
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Why does my reasoning for disliking him, which I never said I did, have to be any more valid than your reasons for liking him?

All you guys ever do is call people names that disagree with you. At least I wasn't doing that and truthfully I wasn't ever disagreeing with you.

I know that calling others names and attempting to assert some authority through name calling is rule number 1 in the Democratic playbook (see hillary v obama), but to somehow believe that you are in any way effectuating logic anywhere in this thread is ridiculous. This thread is all bullshitting and if you weren't a "panties in a wad Obama lover", you would see that

It only reinforces the stereotype that other's hold about Obama followers.

Lastly, it's not so much that I don't like Obama as much as it is that I don't like his supporters. I haven't even attempted anywhere in this thread to deconstruct Barack, if I was I would start with his unsupportable economic policies. I was just in here to make fun of Hillary and the well documented near occultism that surrounds Barack, but you Obamanians are too sensitive and had to get all uproarious.

I have one word for you: pathetic



[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 9:53 AM. Reason : fads]

2/22/2008 9:50:15 AM

Kainen
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What the fuck? Calling people names? Don't whip that argument out on me because logically I'll beat you at it. I've heard my libertarian friend accuse all his democrat buddies about that, and it's a talk radio favorite....but before you make that accusation lets look at the facts and see who actually crossed that line here:

All I said (and I quote) was:

your line of thinking was 'loser tactic'. Which I think it is as evidence by your quotes....it is the tactics of someone who is behind and losing in these primaries and grasping at straws. The arguments about Barack that attack his [fringe] supporters as a cult is just an asinine and blanket rip. Note that I never called you a loser, nor would I....just this tactic which is unfair.

"Right wingers and Hillary supporters' - again, no name calling whatsoever.

No where else did I call you any particular name.
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But guess who decided to take it to that level? You did multiple times so now you're being hypocritical:

'panties in a wad obama lover'
'obamanians'
- the summation and holistic identifier of 'pathetic'

[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 10:10 AM. Reason : -]

[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 10:10 AM. Reason : damn quotes]

2/22/2008 10:08:45 AM

SandSanta
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"I fucking hate the right wingers and hillary supporters who have tried to reduce Barack down to this bullshit. "


I fucking hate faggots who take elections personally rather then the open pandering and populism that they really are.

2/22/2008 10:26:12 AM

JoeSchmoe
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HRC is the Republicans' only hope. Keep her in it and they will win it.

2/22/2008 10:30:02 AM

terpball
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2/22/2008 10:42:10 AM

Pupils DiL8t
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HRC appeared to make a lot more disparaging remarks about Obama than she had in the past.

[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 11:30 AM. Reason : argh]

2/22/2008 11:09:25 AM

SkankinMonky
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she's backed in a corner. she seemed confused as to whether she should strike hard or be nice a lot of the night. obama wasn't perfect during the debate but he did seem to come across as a lot more 'matter of fact' than clinton who seemed to be thinking 'damnit' a lot of the time.

2/22/2008 11:12:46 AM

Gamecat
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That whole "it's an honor" thing at the end convinced me at last.

Hillary's skurred.

2/22/2008 11:49:26 AM

steviewonder
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^^^ Her only hope is to bring him down and hope she gets under his skin enough to make him fuck up somewhere. I don't think I could stand to see her win it all. If only for not having to see that shitty smile that screams to the world how ingenuine she is.

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"Actually it was mostly applause, with a few boos at the end from loyal cult members.
"How dare you make fun of our dear leader!""


Actually it was mostly boos, with the Hillary cult mustering some applause.

[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 11:52 AM. Reason : v]

2/22/2008 11:52:25 AM

SkankinMonky
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Doesn't matter if it was applause or boo's. It was the only time in the debate where someones comments were openly shown displeasure. That is what was significant.

2/22/2008 11:53:46 AM

Walt Sobchak
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Hillary is headed for a trainwreck. I thought she came off very poorly last night.

2/22/2008 12:07:47 PM

Socks``
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StevieWonder,

yah, there's a cult of personality around Hillary Clinton. That's why the Black Eye Peas are writing songs about her and young girls are weeping in excitement at her speeches. Oh Wait!

There is not doubt Obama is ridding a personality-driven wave of worship. You're just too blind to see it.



[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 12:27 PM. Reason : ``]

2/22/2008 12:27:15 PM

JoeSchmoe
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Quote :
"yah, there's a cult of personality around Hillary Clinton. [/sarcasm]"


I'd much rather have a smart and capable Chief Executive who arrives on a cult of personality than a smart and capable Chief Executive who arrives due to nepotism and hereditary "rights"

how many years of Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton, do you want???

HRC can make it 24 years, then we can get 16 more from Jeb and Chelsea.

fuck that. Obama represents America, not special interests.

2/22/2008 12:50:55 PM

sarijoul
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^^have you seen a gathering of hillary supporters? (no? i don't blame you, they're not that common). but i have. they're just as delusional as any group of political supporters. don't fool yourselves. there are fools behind every candidate.

2/22/2008 12:54:23 PM

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I mean, Chris Matthews of MSLSD said he feels "this thrill going up [his] leg" when he hears Obama speak. Sweet Jesus.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uhnynk6XkkU

Keith Olbermann to Matthews: "Steady."

Priceless.

[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 1:09 PM. Reason : .]

2/22/2008 12:55:11 PM

terpball
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hahaha, the jealousy shines bright from these political cartoons.

2/22/2008 1:00:25 PM

Scuba Steve
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2/22/2008 1:10:08 PM

hooksaw
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^^
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"hahaha, the jealousy truth shines bright from these political cartoons."


Fixed.

^ I don't care what your point is--I love that song.

[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 1:12 PM. Reason : .]

2/22/2008 1:11:03 PM

terpball
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nah dude, it's definitely jealousy. There's no truth in that... did Obama really try to walk on water? Is that a real boat?

2/22/2008 1:15:40 PM

hooksaw
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^ Obviously, you're not familiar with the concept of satire. Editorial cartoons use exaggerated illustrations to represent a truth.

[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 1:26 PM. Reason : .]

2/22/2008 1:25:50 PM

Socks``
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terpball has an uncanny nack for details. Notice how he realized this cartoon depicts a fictional scenario. I bet he's going to make the dean's list this semester.

[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 1:53 PM. Reason : ``]

2/22/2008 1:26:11 PM

hooksaw
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^ Ha-ha. Yes, he has a firm grasp of the obvious.

2/22/2008 1:28:06 PM

terpball
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It isn't truth in this case, it's jealousy. You and your anti-Obama cohorts are fucking jealous.

waaa waaa waaa Obama is Charismatic and people like him waa waa waa

oh, I got it! I'm gonna try to make fun of how much people like him in a cartoon!!!

2/22/2008 1:28:45 PM

terpball
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"I bet he's going to make the dean's list this semester."


haha, you sound so smart right now!

2/22/2008 1:29:27 PM

hooksaw
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^^ So there's no media hysteria concerning Obama? You're saying he has been thoroughly vetted?

PS: Maybe we should start capitalizing "He" and "Him" when referring to Obama. Thoughts?



^ So you're not going to make the dean's list? I was pulling for you.

[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 1:36 PM. Reason : PPS: You shouldn't double post. FYI.]

2/22/2008 1:31:42 PM

terpball
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I was on the dean's list a few times, but I graduated like 3 years ago

2/22/2008 1:51:28 PM

Socks``
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^^ Haha. Nice.

2/22/2008 1:55:21 PM

moron
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The media does seem to love Obama, but what do you expect?

Has the media ever not hyped or hounded a particular candidate?

2/22/2008 1:59:57 PM

terpball
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I have seen lots of Obama ones, no McCain ones - but I haven't looked.

I also am not jealous of the Republican candidate, I just don't like him.

2/22/2008 2:37:06 PM

bcsawyer
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Obama has something really good going for him that nobody can deny- he's not Hillary.

2/22/2008 4:04:15 PM

steviewonder
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I lolled at the old white people in the living colour video who were afraid of the singer when he came into the crowd. "Winston, do not move or look at that ghastly man, he might give you a disease"

2/22/2008 4:27:44 PM

JoeSchmoe
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2/22/2008 5:29:24 PM

mathman
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"hooksaw PS: Maybe we should start capitalizing "He" and "Him" when referring to Obama. Thoughts? "


See this is definitely a question for me. The answer is no. It should remain "he" and "him" for Obama is a lesser god. In the Obama-verse I think the capital letters might be reserved for Michelle.

Incidentally, anybody else get the impression that she is only hurting his campaign. And I don't even mean to reference the recent stupid anti-American remark. Its just a more general observation. If you have an uber-cool rockstar type then the wife on tour is not typically a plus. I envision the Obama chilling batchelor style on his tour bus filled with his favorite brand of cigarette smoke, some 70's style furniture and a gaggle of sycophantic groupies sitting around chanting "YES WE CAN"

2/22/2008 8:46:51 PM

Republican18
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They played that montage tonight on Sean Hannity's show of all these lines Billary is using and who she stole them from, now frankly I dont care if they borrow lines from each other, Im only saying this because she is trying to make a big deal of it

[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 11:25 PM. Reason : .]

2/22/2008 11:24:00 PM

moron
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It may be just be, but I find it's the Obama haters that keep referencing him as a god far more than his supporters. And I think that's actually helping him out more, because it makes people who may not have taken him seriously wonder why people think he's like a religious leader.

2/23/2008 12:02:52 AM

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