Instant carl face

1/19/2008 12:29:38 PM

drop that bitch

1/19/2008 12:30:08 PM

SHE DOESNT WANT YOU TO BE A MONKEY

1/19/2008 12:30:17 PM

time for a new gf

1/19/2008 12:30:18 PM

Make her believe











IE stick it in her butt.

1/19/2008 12:30:35 PM

shes a mormon right?

did you expect any different?

1/19/2008 12:30:53 PM

fuck and duck G

1/19/2008 12:30:54 PM

just the evolution of man or evolution in general?

1/19/2008 12:31:41 PM

evolution is a deeper question than most people think...

if you accept the fact that there was a reality before the existence of man, then yes there must have been evolution

but if you get into metaphysical questions involving the nature of reality and man's place in the universe, then it becomes merely one explanation of many

1/19/2008 12:32:10 PM

*sigh*

1/19/2008 12:32:53 PM

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"if you accept the fact that there was a reality before the existence of man, then yes there must have been evolution"

haha, that's a giant fucking leap

1/19/2008 12:33:33 PM

it's not a certain proposition...if you accept the premise that the world cannot exist without consciousness, then there was no reality before the creation of life

and then you just have to ask what degree of consciousness is required: amoebas? plants? mammals? humans?

1/19/2008 12:37:20 PM

why would i accept that proposition?

1/19/2008 12:38:39 PM

Evolution in general, hahaha.

The other night she refused to watch some show I was watching on Darwin then just now my little sister asked me what a homo-erectus was (lol) I told her it was one of the earlier forms homo-sapiens before they evolved. My gf was like "THAT'S IF YOU BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION!!!!"

lol yeah she's a Mormon.

1/19/2008 12:39:11 PM

time for a new girlfriend

1/19/2008 12:40:18 PM

more like

moron

amirite

1/19/2008 12:40:19 PM

so what--God just imbues bacteria with drug-resistance every once in a while for the hell of it?

1/19/2008 12:40:48 PM

it kinda makes sense, when you think about it...have you ever seen anything existing outside of your or anyone else's consciousness? by definition, no. in our experience (which is all we have to rely on), consciousness and the physical world are intextricably tied.

and there is also plenty of quantum mechanical evidence which implies that the world does not "exist" until someone looks at it

^ I sorta think the bacteria themselves are individually conscious...that's a good point though


[Edited on January 19, 2008 at 12:46 PM. Reason : /]

1/19/2008 12:40:55 PM

^^well, kinda

just not all of the bacteria

1/19/2008 12:41:57 PM

wraith arent you british. i hope so cause my joke rules if you are!!1

stop persecuting her religion, thats why we left to begin with!!!1

1/19/2008 12:42:51 PM

time for a new gf

1/19/2008 12:44:50 PM

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"have you ever seen anything existing outside of your or anyone else's consciousness? by definition, no. in our experience (which is all we have to rely on), consciousness and the physical world are intextricably tied"

i see no compelling reason why it would be necessary for a world to be conceived in order to exist, and even if it were, who's to say it wasn't God that conceived it before he conceived humans and drug-resistant bacteria

1/19/2008 12:53:15 PM

Yeah Jackleg I am. And I'd like to point you towards that Robin Williams stand up special. I can't remember the exact quote but he was talking about how uptight Americans are compared to the rest of the world ... "We are so uptight that the English kicked us out in the 1600s because we were too uptight"

1/19/2008 1:01:30 PM

yea, it was Puritans who went to Massachusettes

1/19/2008 1:03:00 PM

I refuse to listen to anything that anyone who doesn't believe in evolution has to say.

1/19/2008 1:03:09 PM

1/19/2008 1:03:34 PM

haha, i love when i play COD4 and i'll get matched up with a british party, and they'll be like 'what are you, another arrogant American?'

1/19/2008 1:04:28 PM

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"We are so uptight that the English kicked us out in the 1600s because we were too uptight"

so what was the strategy behind holding on to ireland for a couple hundred more years...

1/19/2008 1:04:37 PM

Quote :

"it kinda makes sense, when you think about it...have you ever seen anything existing outside of your or anyone else's consciousness? by definition, no. in our experience (which is all we have to rely on), consciousness and the physical world are intextricably tied. and there is also plenty of quantum mechanical evidence which implies that the world does not "exist" until someone looks at it"

This is fucking retarded. If it doesn't exist until we can see it then how do you find it. We didn't see atoms until people developed the microscope does that mean they didn't exist until then?

So animals don't exist until people see them. Well how do we see them if they don't exist because we haven't seen them yet?

[Edited on January 19, 2008 at 1:09 PM. Reason : more ot add]

1/19/2008 1:06:02 PM

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"Yeah Jackleg I am. And I'd like to point you towards that Robin Williams stand up special. I can't remember the exact quote but he was talking about how uptight Americans are compared to the rest of the world ... "We are so uptight that the English kicked us out in the 1600s because we were too uptight""

thought you were, i remember hanging out with out a little while one night. bad as it sounds i had you figured for either english or australian.

i always like listening to the BBC guys and the london bureau people that talk shit about americas election process and how democracy and religion are in bed

GOOD TIMES. lets go find some mingers and bang em out!!1

1/19/2008 1:08:08 PM

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"If it doesn't exist until we can see it then how do you find it"

haha, bless your heart

1/19/2008 1:09:09 PM

^^^
you saw the stuff that was MADE of atoms, therefore you saw the atoms

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" So animals don't exist until people see them. Well how do we see them "

even if this held up logically, animals are conscious beings and therefore have an independent existence

also, ^

[Edited on January 19, 2008 at 1:11 PM. Reason : /]

1/19/2008 1:09:41 PM

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"but if you get into metaphysical questions involving the nature of reality and man's place in the universe, then it becomes merely one explanation of many"

theists don't ask questions like this

they only claim to know the answer

1/19/2008 1:10:54 PM

i dont like this theory, because blind people are always the life of the party

1/19/2008 1:11:04 PM

oh, i understand what you're trying to say, i just happen to think it's wrong--good luck explaining it to mantissa though

1/19/2008 1:11:57 PM

thank you...I'm not even going to try

1/19/2008 1:12:16 PM

"see" is the wrong word

how about "sense and perceive"?

1/19/2008 1:12:38 PM

Snewf was touched by a priest when he was younger.

1/19/2008 1:13:42 PM

time for a new girlfriend

1/19/2008 1:14:30 PM

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" even if this held up logically, animals are conscious beings and therefore have an independent existence "

No the animals wouldn't exist in our world because we haven't seen them yet but because we can't see them we can't prove they exist.

1/19/2008 1:14:36 PM

of course see is the wrong word

and thats the most simple part of the theory and you fags cant even get that part right

so im sticking with my story. drunk blind people are fucking great.

1/19/2008 1:15:09 PM

^^Wat?

[Edited on January 19, 2008 at 1:15 PM. Reason : .]

1/19/2008 1:15:21 PM

^^^^^
very true..."perceive" or "sense" would better...it's not limited to sight

^^^
the argument is that there's only one world, but it exists only through consciousness...the animals themselves exist in their own right, and so do we...


[Edited on January 19, 2008 at 1:20 PM. Reason : /]

1/19/2008 1:15:28 PM

oh wait, all that anti-evolution discussion was unnecessary
there is no such thing as evolution, and I can PROVE it

1/19/2008 1:23:00 PM

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"the argument is that there's only one world, but it exists only through consciousness...the animals themselves exist in their own right, and so do we..."

But we can't know they exist because we can't sense them to prove they exist because they don't exist until we sense them.

1/19/2008 1:24:11 PM

why would you even argue with a professional troll. youve gotta be a badass troll motherfucker to be allowed to troll in the newspaper. you kids cant hang with that

1/19/2008 1:25:16 PM

the sad thing is that I've very rarely trolled, in Technician or otherwise

wait, that's a lie

^^
we don't have to know it exists...it exists in its own right, by virtue of being a conscious entity

the question would work a lot better if you were dealing with a nonliving entity...a rock, say

so I might reword your question as, "If I dig in the ground and find a rock, how does that rock exist? Because it didn't exist till I found it, so where did it come from?"

and I'm claiming that the rock was created upon your finding it

[Edited on January 19, 2008 at 1:30 PM. Reason : /]

1/19/2008 1:25:49 PM

I agree with Jeffrey

even if the world does exist beyond the scope of one's perception and contemplation it doesn't matter because we are limited by our own perspective

1/19/2008 1:29:10 PM

time for a new gf

1/19/2008 1:29:32 PM

Quote :

"we don't have to know it exists...it exists in its own right, by virtue of being a conscious entity the question would work a lot better if you were dealing with a nonliving entity...a rock, say so I might reword your question as, "If I dig in the ground and find a rock, how does that rock exist? Because it didn't exist till I found it, so where did it come from?" and I'm claiming that the rock was created upon your finding it"

The rock was there before you dug. If it only exist upon discovery then you could never discover it because you would never sense it until you found it.

You can't create it upon your finding that doesn't make any sense. It would have to exist before you found it.

If you created it then you wouldn't have to sense it to know it exist. You can't create it upon your finding it.

[Edited on January 19, 2008 at 1:47 PM. Reason : i wanted to]

1/19/2008 1:35:38 PM