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aurajun
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Ok, so i have Dr. Knopp for this class. I've been studying my past exams and previous semester exams and flipping through my notecards. Does anyone else have any tips as to what the final is like? Thanks in advance.

[Edited on December 14, 2007 at 11:31 AM. Reason : .]

12/14/2007 11:30:51 AM

baonest
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there really arent any tips.

its going to suck. just go out and grap a few drinks and relax.

12/14/2007 12:01:11 PM

aaprior
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I can't even count how many times in problem session and lecture the TA's and Dr. Knopp told us everything we needed to know about the final. They spelled it out so many times I've memorized it, which means you either haven't listened or haven't shown up to the last two weeks of lectures / problem sessions.

11-13 pages of fill in the blank 0.4 points per blank
2-3 pages of identify structures 2.0 points each
1-2 pages of multiple choice

2/3 of the test is exam 4 material and beyond
1/3 of the test is exams 1-3

no definitions directly, but they might be part of multiple choice questions
no drawing structures
no calculations
memorizable lists are part of fill in the blanks
"relations" = memorizable equations
The test is out of 85-90 points
structures may be drawn in any combination of ways
full and complete names required for all blanks, every time
(Ex: Don't write ATP, write Adenosine 5'-Triphosphate)

12/14/2007 12:35:04 PM

aurajun
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^haha, i know that already..i was just looking for additional tips

12/14/2007 12:47:55 PM

princesslia
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^^ I hope your 20 pages of "precise notes" get you that A


and to ^... I was talking to the TAs and they definitely stressed opening up Exam 4s from previous years and filling out those fill in the blank sections. Knopp likes to go through them while he's making put the exams and put exact questions... some of them are tricky....

The TAs also said it wasn't too hard just incredibly long....





[Edited on December 14, 2007 at 8:16 PM. Reason : !!]

12/14/2007 7:53:32 PM

snowman
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Bring your own KY, because he doesn't supply any.

12/14/2007 8:53:06 PM

aaprior
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Princesslia

I don't know why you decided to berate my course notes?? Whats up with that?? My "20 pages of precise" notes are the result of a real interest in biochemistry and a goal to succeed in the course. I'm not saying its the best way, but its the way I'm doing it. Hardly seems like something to roll your eyes at...

PS: Its more like 120 pages of notes if you really like rolling your eyes.

12/14/2007 9:30:56 PM

aurajun
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^^^ thanks Princesslia!! See, stuff like THAT is what I was looking for when I asked my question. But, I probably should of said "additional tips to what Dr. Knopp says in class".

12/14/2007 11:27:53 PM

baonest
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wow, you knopp people have it easy.

sylvia had like 33 pages of fill in the blank.

12/15/2007 10:30:35 AM

C whitey
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^ sylvia's gone, medical leave, we're all knopp now


anybody have the link handy for the old exams?

12/16/2007 7:37:17 PM

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