If you visit the online technician the amount of whining done by Pro Smoking Ban people is absolutly ridiculous. Seriously cry me a river.

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"You say that most smokers are considerate of others and will move away from entrance ways. Well, yes, some smokers are, but a significant amount of smokers are not considerate and have no problem with clouding the entrance to a building with their smoke. I have personally experienced this, and it sucks"

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"light up simultaneously as soon as class gets out. Keep in mind this is at the same time as everyone else's classes get out, and since Winston, Tompkins, and Caldwell are all right next to each other we all have to walk through their smoke in order to get back and forth between buildings. It's incredibly obnoxious and a perfect example of how your nasty social habits are affecting us all"

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"Do you not care that being outside of a building while smoking is assaulting someone else's lungs"

I mean seriously I do not smoke but the bitching from the anti-smoking nazi's is getting out of hand. We are not talking about someone smoking in class next to you. This is people smoking outside where the shear size of the atmosphere and wind create plenty of ventilation. I occasionally detect cigarette smoking while walking through campus but it is no where comparable in magnitude to the build up of smoke if it occurred inside. Luckily in this modern age smoking is banned inside except for in a few circumstances like smoking designated apartments, bars, the smoking room at the airport. Part of life is dealing with stuff you do not like get the fuck over it. You will not get lung cancer b.c you walk by a smoker outside for a whole 3 seconds; much like how i will not get carbon monoxide poisoning from driving in traffic.

I liked this quote

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"ou know what, I hated it when the guy in the dorm room above me stomped on the floor for hours playing DDR. I hate sitting next to someone smelly on the wolfline. I hate getting stuck to someone obese on an airplane. I hate someone who brings a crying baby to Wendy's while I eat. I hate the gay guys that wear speedos to the beach. Guess what part of being an adult is dealing and tolerating stuff you may not agree with or annoys you"

[Edited on December 6, 2007 at 4:36 PM. Reason : a]

12/6/2007 4:34:37 PM

what do you expect, it's college

12/6/2007 4:35:45 PM

i also do not smoke cigarettes (although i do smoke a tobacco pipe and cigars), and i agree. shit is out of hand.

12/6/2007 4:36:43 PM

This is nearly as bad as all the people bitching on their about the "noose incident" then getting even more scruffled when someone created the comic illustrating how stupid the escalation of this issue was.

12/6/2007 4:38:29 PM

i do not smoke, and am allergic to cigarette smoke (something i can't help, of course), and i'm glad that we're finally getting to the point that you asshole smokers (because, seriously, the ONLY universal effect of cigarette smoke is the fact that it's detrimental to your health) are slowly being pushed away from the rest of us who AREN'T idiots

i can't wait till y'all have to smoke in phone booths until you pass out from the shit you spew into our atmosphere

12/6/2007 4:40:38 PM

I remember when I started school at State.

I was a pretty heavy smoker back then (1 to 2 packs of Camel Filters a day). I remember my English class at 8:05 am every morning...and specifically getting there 5 minutes early so I could sit out in the hall and enjoy a cigarette.

And as soon as I stepped back out of the class, I'd light another one. Maybe hang around and chat with some folks and whatnot. In the building. Because we were allowed to smoke in the buildings. That was 1990.

12/6/2007 4:41:53 PM

seriously, though, i don't care if people choose to kill themselves, but they have absolutely zilch right to damage me in a similar fashion just because they can't control their addictions...i equate smoking around non-smokers to driving drunk...you may not kill anyone, but hell if you're not giving it a shot

[Edited on December 6, 2007 at 4:43 PM. Reason : .]

12/6/2007 4:42:56 PM

I definitely agree with that, Ricky.

Besides being detrimental to everybody's health, secondhand smoke stinks horribly. I never noticed just how repulsive it is until I quit. I do realize I just made a very subjective statement there.

12/6/2007 4:44:25 PM

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"i equate smoking around non-smokers to driving drunk...you may not kill anyone, but hell if you're not giving it a shot"

that's truly a ridiculous analogy.

12/6/2007 4:44:42 PM

of course it is...and equally ridiculous is the idea that people have the right to kill others because they can't control their addiction or the idea that their high trumps my right to fresh(er) air

12/6/2007 4:45:44 PM

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"because, seriously, the ONLY universal effect of cigarette smoke is the fact that it's detrimental to your health"

Who are you to try and protect people from themselves. Everyone knows smoking is addictive and harmful. If they choose to do so anyway that is their own problem. Sorry I do not buy the catastrophic health effects of the smoker sitting on the bench as you walk bye Mann Hall. Maybe we should ban alcohol, french fries, doughnuts, tanning salons, and every thing else that known to be harmful.

^
THE CONCENTRATION OF CIGARETTE SMOKE FROM A PERSON OUTSIDE IS EXTREMELY SMALL COMPARED TO BEING BOTTLED UP NEXT TO THE PERSON INSIDE. THIS IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT UNLESS YOU ARE STANDING RIGHT UP IN SOMEONEs GRILL

[Edited on December 6, 2007 at 4:48 PM. Reason : A]

12/6/2007 4:46:24 PM

It's not truly ridiculous...I think secondhand smoke is actually supposed to be worse for you than firsthand, as it's cooled down and many more precipitates probably settle out. This is, of course, assuming you get the same volumetric dose.

Granted, it's a couple of orders of magnitude less damage than, say, getting hit by a drunk driver, but still...

^Other people eating donuts do not emit noxious donut emissions that adversely affect your health, you scrotum.

[Edited on December 6, 2007 at 4:48 PM. Reason : goddamn...]

12/6/2007 4:46:54 PM

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"Who are you to try and protect people from themselves. Everyone knows smoking is addictive and harmful. If they choose to do so anyway that is their own problem. Sorry I do not buy the catastrophic health effects of the smoker sitting on the bench as you walk bye Mann Hall. Maybe we should ban alcohol, french fries, doughnuts, tanning salons, and every thing else that known to be harmful."

that's just it...i'm not trying to protect smokers from themselves and i said as much...i'm trying to protect myself from smokers, which, since i can't do that by myself, i'm glad government is lending a hand

12/6/2007 4:47:18 PM

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" I hate getting stuck to someone obese on an airplane"

12/6/2007 4:47:35 PM

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"I hate getting stuck to someone obese on an airplane the wolfline"

shit happens daily.

12/6/2007 4:48:26 PM

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"I hate getting stuck to someone obese on an airplane"

agreed...and yet, his/her obesity does not immediately and directly affect your physical health 100% of the time

[Edited on December 6, 2007 at 4:49 PM. Reason : added qualifier so i don't have to put up with bullshit examples]

12/6/2007 4:48:30 PM

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"Other people eating donuts do not emit noxious donut emissions that adversely affect your health, you scrotum. "

12/6/2007 4:49:12 PM

I have never witnessed the brickyard looking like this b.c some people decided to smoke in between classes. so do not feed me the oh the awful 2nd hand smoke is going to kill me.

b.c yeah i hate being in places like the picture above

12/6/2007 4:53:17 PM

what if you had to walk through one of my fart clouds on the way out the door?

12/6/2007 4:55:54 PM

The smoking rooms in the airports always look so depressing.

12/6/2007 4:57:03 PM

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"what if you had to walk through one of my fart clouds on the way out the door?"

maybe farting in a public place should accompany a $25 fine since the smell annoys me.

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"The smoking rooms in the airports always look so depressing."

yeah no shit. It is kind of sad really. What's even worse is seeing the smoking moms drag there poor kids in there. Literally a cloud of smoke flows out of the room when the door opens.

12/6/2007 5:00:49 PM

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"maybe farting in a public place should accompany a $25 fine since the smell annoys me."

prove that EVERY SINGLE WHIFF OF FART physically damages your lungs, and you might have something there

12/6/2007 5:05:39 PM

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"and equally ridiculous is the idea that people have the right to kill others because they can't control their addiction or the idea that their high trumps my right to fresh(er) air"

name for me one person in the history of the world who has gotten lung cancer and died from occasionally smelling smoke for a few seconds while walking outdoors

btw quagmire thanks for coming into this thread cause i was about to be like "HUR what kind of people do that" and then you showed up

you kill your neighbor's hunting dogs but DONT YOU DARE SMOKE AROUND ME\

with the obligatory shit talking out of the way, I don't think most smokers mind not being able to smoke inside in public buildings, certain restaurants, etc...but when you start telling people what they should/shouldnt do outdoors in public...thats when you come across as irrational nazis

[Edited on December 6, 2007 at 5:14 PM. Reason : .]

12/6/2007 5:10:03 PM

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"Part of life is dealing with stuff you do not like get the fuck over it. "

I NO RITE? Smokers just gonna have to suck it up and get the fuck away from my entrances to smoke.

12/6/2007 5:10:29 PM

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"name for me one person in the history of the world who has gotten lung cancer and died from occasionally smelling smoke for a few seconds while walking outdoors btw quagmire thanks for coming into this thread cause i was about to be like "HUR what kind of people do that" and then you showed up you kill your neighbor's hunting dogs but DONT YOU DARE SMOKE AROUND ME"

define occasionally...does that mean every day, at every door? because i daresay that the likelihood of getting lung cancer increases with every exposure...or am i missing something? i'd rather lessen my chances, especially since i am actively making the choice NOT to puff on cancer sticks...again, i'm not trying to take away YOUR right to kill yourself, i'd just like to see you not try to take others with you

and yes and no to the dog - you did a great job of taking it out of context, but they weren't my neighbors...good try, though!

12/6/2007 5:14:13 PM

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"define occasionally...does that mean every day, at every door?"

your choice...anybody at all who has gotten lung cancer and/or died from being exposed to 2nd hand smoke while walking outdoors

notice i dont say being exposed to 2nd hand smoke while working inside or something, because i dont recall anyone in this thread having a huge problem with any bans of smoking indoors

again its when you want to blow something out of proportion like getting a 2 second whiff of a smoke smell while being outdoors in public

you see these people sucking down cigarettes for years and years and years before they get cancer or other related diseases, but you think getting the occasional whiff is going to kill you?

LETS SAY I was allergic to dog hair...when I'm walking through the park and somebody else in the park is walking their dog should I act like a complete asshole and tell them to fuck off because their pet is killing me?

12/6/2007 5:16:18 PM

quagmire, stop being a pussy. "Oh, i'm allergic to cigarette smoke." I call bullshit on that. You might not like it, but you're not fucking allergic to it. Allergies are a different thing than having a stick up your ass. I've never smoked a cigarette in my life, and I don't enjoy smelling it when I walk around outside. But dude, grow a fucking pair and stop being a little bitch. It's not gonna kill you.

12/6/2007 5:29:50 PM

^^ we both know there is no study that directly links secondhand smoke while walking outdoors to lung cancer...but we also both know that secondhand smoke can be dangerous in even limited concentrations and that, depending on the person, it can be very detrimental through simple exposure...and, unless you're going to pretend that inhaling known carcinogens is perfectly safe, i don't see why anyone should ever HAVE to suck it down...again, i'm not saying you don't have the right to kill yourself (because, so far as your case is concerned, i'm thinking that's probably best for everyone anyway), but hell if you have the right to, in any way, harm me physically...my good health trumps your bad choices hands-down, and i'm thrilled that government is finally stepping in and making your dumb ass recognize that

also, people are usually allergic to animal dander, not the hair (it's incredibly rare that you'd be allergic to the proteins found ONLY in hair)...good try, though

^ oh, do we know each other? where did we meet? were you in on my doctor's visit? what does it say in my medical record? do you even know what smoke-sensitive asthma is? talk about growing a pair...were you a real man, you could get through the day without giving in to a mindless, unnecessary addiction, but apparently that doesn't count...real men poison themselves!

[Edited on December 6, 2007 at 5:38 PM. Reason : .]

12/6/2007 5:36:24 PM

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"oh, do we know each other? where did we meet?"

Who says I smoke weed every day? I don't... by a lot. It's usually reserved to the weekends and when I don't have shit else to do... sometimes. And fine... you got your doctor to write that you have pussyitis smoke-sensitive asthma. They say alcoholism is a disease too, but I pretty much consider that bullshit as well. But seriously dude, stop being such a little bitch about people smoking. There's way worse stuff you put yourself through every day and it just makes you sound like the biggest asshole on the planet.

12/6/2007 5:43:27 PM

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"prove that EVERY SINGLE WHIFF OF FART physically damages your lungs, and you might have something there"

what about the monster tank SUV choking me out with 5x the harmful pollution output as my lean burning honda civic.

Since we care about every little indecency a lungs incur we should prohibit all fossil fuel burning autos.
Either stop complaining for move to the countryside where you can have crystal clean air 24/7 away from the polluted cities.

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"LETS SAY I was allergic to dog hair...when I'm walking through the park and somebody else in the park is walking their dog should I act like a complete asshole and tell them to fuck off because their pet is killing me?"

thanks TT10 that is the perfect analogy i've been looking for.

12/6/2007 5:56:40 PM

I heard their is no cure for pussitis sucks for quagmire

12/6/2007 6:03:04 PM

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"btw quagmire thanks for coming into this thread cause i was about to be like "HUR what kind of people do that" and then you showed up"

12/6/2007 6:08:20 PM

you people

12/6/2007 6:10:32 PM

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"it just makes you sound like the biggest asshole on the planet."

Says the holier than thou piece of shit that thinks people should give him a free pass when he poisons the air with his cancer stick exhaust.

Rofl, good one dude.

You smokers are all the same. Some arrogant bastards.

12/6/2007 6:20:06 PM

its pretty obvious which side of this argument is the arrogant side

12/6/2007 6:20:49 PM

^^ WTF are you talking about? I don't smoke cancer sticks... and I don't smoke anything in public places so... yeah. You fail. GTFO.

12/6/2007 6:23:49 PM

Hope the government doesn't ban urinating in the ocean since its poisoning our water supply

12/6/2007 6:26:34 PM

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"seriously, though, i don't care if people choose to kill themselves, but they have absolutely zilch right to damage me in a similar fashion just because they can't control their addictions...i equate smoking around non-smokers to driving drunk...you may not kill anyone, but hell if you're not giving it a shot "

shut the godamned hell up

12/6/2007 6:31:40 PM

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"^^ WTF are you talking about? I don't smoke cancer sticks... and I don't smoke anything in public places so... yeah. You fail. GTFO."

Well, you have the attitude of one, which isn't good either. Prick.

12/6/2007 6:31:59 PM

oh christ, not this debate again

12/6/2007 6:32:25 PM

^^ At least I'm not a complete dumbass tool

[Edited on December 6, 2007 at 6:32 PM. Reason : ]

12/6/2007 6:32:46 PM

These anti smoking nazis are gonna continue to take it overboard and when they raise their children they will do everything possible to not expose them to anything even remotely harmful...then when they finally catch a cold, they'll die from a shitty, untested immune system thanks to faggoty parenting

12/6/2007 6:34:03 PM

haha, where to begin with this pro smoking bullshit

you do realise you're implying that exposing kids to smoke is good for their immune systems?

12/6/2007 6:41:19 PM

that statement was partially so the non smoking nazis could see how ridiculous their arguments seem to the other side...i make a statement from the other end of the spectrum, yet just as inane as their claims

however there is some small amount of truth in what i said...native americans and small pox blankets, severity of chicken pox if you get them at age 10 versus age 30, etc

and i would prefer to call it pro freedom, not pro smoking...hence why you have a number of non smokers who are basically on my side of the argument

12/6/2007 6:44:16 PM

I LIKE TO SMOKE CIGARETTES. get outta my way.

12/6/2007 6:46:11 PM

^^ i get your point and i agree the anti-smoking lobby go overboard sometimes

as for small pox and chicken pox, i think it's difficult to draw correlations between the negative effects of smoking and second-hand smoke and inoculation against disease

you also seem to be relating the hygiene hypothesis and the idea of being too hygienic with people who are fanatically against smoking... if anything, a lot of those people would back the hygiene hypothesis and many have recently begun feeding their kids raw milk - http://www.realmilk.com/

[Edited on December 6, 2007 at 6:56 PM. Reason : .]

12/6/2007 6:54:36 PM

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"shut the godamned hell up"

OR ELSE WHAT? YOU'LL MAKE A THREAD ABOUT HOW YOU BROKE A COMPUTER I SOLD YOU? oh, wait...

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"what about the monster tank SUV choking me out with 5x the harmful pollution output as my lean burning honda civic."

great point...which is why i drive a 40mpg 4-banger that gets me from point A to point B with minimal emissions...if i could afford it, i'd get something even less polluting, but if we get into biodiesel and ethanol and all that jazz, that'd probably warrant another thread

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"Hope the government doesn't ban urinating in the ocean since its poisoning our water supply"

this is why it's pointless to talk to the ignorant like you...if you really think that sterile urine and carcinogenic cigarette smoke are the same thing, then it's a wonder you made it out of middle school

[Edited on December 6, 2007 at 7:25 PM. Reason : oh wait]

12/6/2007 7:20:51 PM

I hate it when someone walking lights up right in front of me, so all their smoke flies right back into my face.

12/6/2007 7:26:46 PM

this thread is going places. im about to sit back, smoke some ___, and enjoy this.

12/6/2007 7:35:03 PM

you don't smoke _____'s silly,



you snort them

12/6/2007 7:35:32 PM