Question,

Will good grades at NCSU COM give you a shot at Investment Banking?

Or

I am totally disillusional?

11/6/2007 11:45:42 AM

perhaps chit chat wasnt the best choice

11/6/2007 11:46:17 AM

there are plenty of ways to be a rich asshole with little regard for your fellow man.

11/6/2007 11:49:26 AM

Yes, because everyone who is in investment banking is like that.

11/6/2007 11:50:20 AM

A buddy of mine is a oil commodities trader in NYC. He has a textile engineering BS.

11/6/2007 11:52:07 AM

you're totally disillusional

11/6/2007 12:09:54 PM

I'm sorry I'm late on this, however, I'd like to provide hope for my fellow alums. I graduated from COM in 2005 and got a at an I-Bank in the Washington DC area. A good GPA, great understanding of the industry, and a good show of tenacity can definitely get you in somewhere.

12/27/2007 10:09:26 PM

if you want to do investment banking you need to move to NYC and go to a school there. The connections alone will give you a MUCH better leg up than you would here.

12/27/2007 10:11:36 PM

While this may be somewhat true - I have lead and participated in multiple analyst and associate recruiting efforts and if you can get your foot in the door (with what the advice I offered before) your uniqueness in coming from NC State will set you apart. As long as you can back it up with industry knowledge and the appropriate skills (interviews, especially final rounds, can be technical and rigorous, although very manageable if you prepare) then you will standout.

12/27/2007 10:16:15 PM

to be completely honest, you dont learn enough at the COM to prepare you for a career in IB. if this is the career you want to pursue, you must take it upon yourself to study the industry and the types of instruments.

honestly i have regrets about transferring to state to be closer to my friends from a school with an IB program.

12/28/2007 9:43:17 AM

wait, this kid is 21 talking like he's 40 with a prostate problem.
money can't buy cool kids

12/28/2007 9:45:41 AM

I'm actually 26 - I guess I just havent' updated my age. Either way - what I say holds true. You'll learn everything on the job anyways - as long as you know how the industry works - what Ibankers actually do, then you should be good to go. You'll learn, very quickly, once you're on the job.

12/28/2007 11:16:03 PM

Just be prepared to be laughed at for not coming from Ivy/Penn/NYU/MIT/etc

One thing I've learned from being in the industry is that they are very snobbish about schools you come from, whether or not you can perform at/above their level.

12/29/2007 3:22:26 PM

^

12/29/2007 5:54:15 PM

NCSU COM's does not have a great reputation for the graduates it produces.


Failed Engineers is the most common perception

[Edited on December 29, 2007 at 6:12 PM. Reason : w]

12/29/2007 6:08:25 PM

haha, i bet they stand a good chance if comms doesn't even have a good reputation within the university.

12/30/2007 1:16:09 AM

There are a couple of good books for interviewing, one is at the library about investment banking interviews. Another, "Heard on the Street" you can get from amazon.com that has a lot of good interview questions. Those should help with any brain teaser questions you might get.

But, if I were you I would start building your resume now. I graduated summa cum laude this past semester with a BS-BUS BA-EC minor ACC, honors, scholars, internships, blah blah blah and hardly got any responses from applying for their analyst programs (though I heard a lost of I-banks cut back hiring this year). You might take a look at some of the smaller investment banks.

[Edited on December 30, 2007 at 11:53 AM. Reason : .]

12/30/2007 11:52:24 AM

at my job interviews, it was more "do you have A college degree?" rather than "what was your major?"

12/30/2007 12:05:28 PM

Credit Suisse recruits at State and they have an analyst program. Why not call up a recruiter and see what it is that they're looking for? Call Credit Suisse for that matter. Or Morgan Stanley. They can give you a better idea of what they're looking for.

Also, I would have to disagree with the one who said we don't produce good graduates. If that was truly the case, we wouldn't have Big 4 accounting firms and fortune 500 firms recruiting at our school. Are we one of the best? No, we're not, but we're on the map.

12/30/2007 2:00:18 PM

^I know a couple people working for them.

^^what I am saying is recruiters pick which schools they will go to and NCSU COM is not at the top of the list. When you have Duke, UNC, WF, ECU, UNCG, App all having better programs, that is who they target. The COM's reputation is that it is just failed engineers. Hopefully that will change now that the requirements to transfer in have gone up. Of course, the college got accredited within the past 8 years so it is still a "baby" program. I dont see really why anyone would go to COM at State if they can get in to one of the other business school's in the state

[Edited on December 30, 2007 at 4:24 PM. Reason : w]

12/30/2007 4:22:30 PM

^ I hear you

12/30/2007 5:48:06 PM

Quote :

"Credit Suisse recruits at State and they have an analyst program. Why not call up a recruiter and see what it is that they're looking for? Call Credit Suisse for that matter. Or Morgan Stanley. They can give you a better idea of what they're looking for. Also, I would have to disagree with the one who said we don't produce good graduates. If that was truly the case, we wouldn't have Big 4 accounting firms and fortune 500 firms recruiting at our school. Are we one of the best? No, we're not, but we're on the map. "

what credit suisse has down here is not the same as the analyst programs you are thinking of. The analyst programs you are thinking of are front office analyst programs. Anything down here is not that, but just middle office or back office analyst positions.

[Edited on December 30, 2007 at 8:33 PM. Reason : .]

12/30/2007 8:33:16 PM

I don't know very much about the MBA program, but the undergrad program doesn't really seem to give students an edge for investment banking. At least, thats the impression that I get. Big 4 public accounting firms do recruit at NC State (accounting major here), as well as other companies in RTP (Cisco, IBM, etc). Try another school if NYC investment banking is your goal.

Of course, you could always break in the industry if you have contacts. But if you have the option, I'd target other schools (for investment banking).

[Edited on December 31, 2007 at 1:25 AM. Reason : Clarify]

12/31/2007 1:23:51 AM

10/10

12/31/2007 1:26:58 AM

Of course recruiters go to Duke, UNC, and WF before NCSU, those are all top 20 business schools. NCSU is consistently ranked in the top 100 (around 70 lately) and has a better business school than ECU, UNCG, and App.

1/2/2008 8:15:19 PM

Quote :

"those are all top 20 business schools"

wake is nowhere close. and Duke's undergrad isnt even top 30



[Edited on January 2, 2008 at 11:16 PM. Reason : .]

1/2/2008 11:10:18 PM

Top 20 Undergrad
1 University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)
2 University of Virginia (McIntire)
3 UC Berkeley (Haas)
4 Emory University (Goizueta)
5 University of Michigan (Ross)
6 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Sloan)
7 Notre Dame (Mendoza)
8 Brigham Young University (Marriott)
9 New York University (Stern)
10 Cornell University
11 Georgetown University (McDonough)
12 Villanova University
13 University of Texas at Austin (McCombs)
14 Boston College (Carroll)
15 UNC at Chapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler)
16 Washington University (Olin)
17 Carnegie Mellon (Tepper)
18 Indiana University (Kelley)
19 USC (Marshall)
20 Lehigh University



Top 30 U.S. MBA Programs
1 University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)
2 Northwestern University (Kellogg)
3 Harvard University
4 Stanford University
5 University of Michigan (Ross)
6 University of Chicago
7 MIT (Sloan)
8 UC Berkeley (Haas)
9 Duke University (Fuqua)
10 Columbia University
11 Dartmouth (Tuck)
12 UCLA (Anderson)
13 Cornell University (Johnson)
14 NYU (Stern)
15 University of Virginia (Darden)
16 Carnegie Mellon (Tepper)
17 UNC - Chapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler)
18 Indiana University (Kelley)
19 Yale University
20 Texas - Austin
21 University of Southern California (Marshall)
22 Georgetown University (McDonough)
23 Emory University (Goizueta)
24 Purdue University (Krannert)
25 University of Maryland (Smith)
26 University of Notre Dame (Mendoza)
27 Washington University (Olin)
28 Rochester (Simon)
29 Michigan State University (Broad)
30 Vanderbilt University (Owen)

[Edited on January 2, 2008 at 11:14 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on January 2, 2008 at 11:16 PM. Reason : .]

1/2/2008 11:13:19 PM

how come our biz school doesnt have a name?"

1/9/2008 5:36:44 PM

because it has not produced any baller alums.

1/9/2008 10:39:22 PM