10/22/2007 3:35:58 PM

10/22/2007 3:37:16 PM

It's more of a bivouac shelter, specifically made for camping and such.

10/22/2007 3:38:10 PM

It's more of a bivouac shelter, specifically made for camping and such.

10/22/2007 3:38:47 PM

^ AKA a tarp

10/22/2007 3:38:52 PM

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10/22/2007 3:40:45 PM

you got that right, EMCE

10/22/2007 3:41:31 PM

why aren't more ppl posting in my masterpiece thread

10/22/2007 3:58:07 PM

is that when you went camping with xtine?

10/22/2007 3:59:03 PM

let me up in that tarp

10/22/2007 4:10:37 PM

let me get in dem guts tarp

10/22/2007 4:15:57 PM

your bf looks demonic

10/22/2007 4:19:43 PM

< It's a terp!!!

10/22/2007 4:26:01 PM

^it's a tard!

10/22/2007 4:27:40 PM

you're one to talk

10/22/2007 4:39:11 PM

I'm not a tard

10/22/2007 4:46:50 PM

That is photoshoped I can tell because the shadows are off

10/22/2007 4:55:56 PM

10/22/2007 5:54:14 PM

i've seen quite a few shops in my time

10/22/2007 5:59:39 PM

but why this* picture?

10/22/2007 6:00:24 PM

there's no shadows because of the camera flash, the shadows are directly behind everyone such that they can't be seen from the camera's angle


GOSH

10/22/2007 6:04:23 PM

ahaha I know who took that picture


(<------)

10/22/2007 6:05:19 PM

Oh god.

This shit again.

Those crazy bastards slept in the open in freezing temps in the mtns instead of using their oh-so-special tarp


<3

10/22/2007 6:15:35 PM

well it wasn't raining, we didn't really need the tarp! and we did use it the 1st night

btw XTNE I heard you and Matt didn't have sleeping pads ... that's why you were so cold!!

10/22/2007 6:24:45 PM

nah, that's why we weren't so cold.

We were so goddamn cold because matt swore up and down those sleeping bags would be adequate, and wouldn't let me bring any other blankets.

Being on the ground wasn't the problem in the least. It was all the radiated heat. I was putting towels, extra clothes, pillows - anything I could use to retain heat - on top of the sleeping bag. Slept in jeans, three shirts, and a jacket.

...But he's the one who wound up with acute bronchitis. I was just tired for a day or two. I suspect he'll listen to me next time.

[Edited on October 22, 2007 at 6:44 PM. Reason : def doesn't help that our tent is not a cold-weather tent, either]

10/22/2007 6:43:09 PM

no sleeping mats is* the reason you were cold - you lose a lot of body warmth by laying straight on the ground, versus even a 1 inch pad.
insulating yourself from the ground is imperative to retaining body heat, don't you ever watch survivor man, GOD!!1

10/22/2007 6:45:08 PM

HAI Nerdchick

i think i saw you sitting in talley today.

10/22/2007 6:51:05 PM

you didn't, I wasn't in Talley today

maybe I have a doppleganger

10/22/2007 6:54:41 PM

btw XSMP and Nerdchick are CORRECT about the sleeping pad!! you lose just as much heat to the ground as to the air!

even the most fanatical ultralight backpackers use a sleeping pad in cold weather. for realz a foam thermarest is like $20 and will increase your comfort dramatically.

10/22/2007 7:03:12 PM

Eh.

If yall say so.

The only parts of my body that were warm were those I was laying on. I understand who the ground will steal your warmth, but you'll have a hard time selling to me that it was the ground causing the majority of my problems when my bottom half was relatively toasty (warm to the touch, even), while the skin on the top of my body was damn cold.

[Edited on October 22, 2007 at 7:07 PM. Reason : meanwhile, matt wasn't even cold. fucker.]

10/22/2007 7:06:51 PM

it's pretty hard to camp outside in this time of year without another person in the sleeping bag with you. I went a couple of weeks ago- fucking freezing by myself - i had on long johns under my jeans and lord knows like 5 shirts- killer socks and was very chilly still.

10/22/2007 7:11:14 PM

all i know is that my stove won the boil off

the tarp is fucking titties

^hot bottle of water in your sleeping bag (hottubin)....but yeah, haveing a female to grope/snuggle is fuckin boss

having all those clothes on didnt help either..prolly made things worse


[Edited on October 22, 2007 at 7:16 PM. Reason : d]

10/22/2007 7:12:32 PM

...I actually wanna go again. Would probably be going this weekend if zorthage didn't have bronchitis.

There was something masochistically gratifying about rolling out of bed at 30F at 8am, bundled up like a mummy, and getting a fire going just to get warm and have some hot chocolate. Fuck breakfast. Some tea or hot chocolate is where it's at.

...Points if you have someone else doing that while you get the first trip to the bathroom

^definitely doing the hot water bottle business next time.

Quote :

"but yeah, haveing a female to grope/snuggle is fuckin boss "

Perv. Anyways, Hurley is a dude, in case you have forgotten

10/22/2007 7:14:20 PM

where DID the rest of your arms go?!?!

[Edited on October 22, 2007 at 7:17 PM. Reason : i want to go on the next camping trip!]

10/22/2007 7:16:38 PM

oh damn, someone is infatuated with our relationship erik

10/22/2007 7:17:40 PM

That display at Playmaker's scarred me for life, you guys!

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"i want to go on the next camping trip!"

By all means, do! We had a great time.

10/22/2007 7:18:14 PM

HEY!

i dunno where they went ....prolly has something to do with magnetic fields

10/22/2007 7:18:20 PM

just don't post the video, Hurley

10/22/2007 7:19:41 PM

10/23/2007 3:21:27 PM

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10/24/2007 4:32:58 PM

looks like someone forgot their code tags!!!

10/25/2007 11:43:18 AM

Quote :

"Slept in jeans, three shirts, and a jacket"

you also had too much on

we were always told to sleep with little on. it works. ive tried to sleep with my clothes on instead of ... lets say...thermal style underwear ... and froze....ive slept in a bag with nothing but a clean, dry shirt and long johns and been warm and snug as a bug in a rug.

and the ground pad does work wonders...i always try to have a mat or something to put under my bag.

10/25/2007 12:08:09 PM

what the hell

where'd my post go

and why is it better to wear no clothes?

[Edited on October 25, 2007 at 12:09 PM. Reason : lk]

10/25/2007 12:08:50 PM

i deleted that mess of a post

and its better to wear less clothes or nothing b/c of the moisture that is trapped in the fibers will cool you off instead of warm you up

10/25/2007 12:13:20 PM

Quote :

"where DID the rest of your arms go?!?!"

chainsaw?

10/25/2007 12:58:44 PM

I don't buy the idea that wearing more clothes makes you colder. I mean, WTF man? I've always been warmer when wearing more clothes to bed

10/25/2007 3:14:56 PM

Quote :

"what the hell where'd my post go "

apparently gunzz' new thing is to just delete or edit whatever posts he feels like.

10/25/2007 3:16:54 PM

I always thought that the important thing

was to wear clothing like wool or polypropylene that wicks sweat from your skin

rather than clothing like cotton or cotton blends that hold sweat next to your skin

10/26/2007 9:37:06 AM

Quote :

"apparently gunzz' new thing is to just delete or edit whatever posts he feels like"

no, my job is to moderate and edit threads to make them better for the group
and if you post the fucking egg one more time in feed back forum i will suspend you for it

feed back forum is not chit chat #2 so dont get your shit twisted b/c i deleted two of your posts.

Quote :

"I don't buy the idea that wearing more clothes makes you colder."

well, from spending about a decade being involved with the boy scouts i can tell you from an assload of camping experience...and winter camping for that matter that is indeed true.

[Edited on October 26, 2007 at 9:40 AM. Reason : sdf]

10/26/2007 9:39:39 AM

Quote :

"you also had too much on"

I started with far less

Quote :

"and its better to wear less clothes or nothing b/c of the moisture that is trapped in the fibers will cool you off instead of warm you up"

When the only source of moisture is from respiration, that's not a concern.

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"was to wear clothing like wool or polypropylene that wicks sweat from your skin rather than clothing like cotton or cotton blends that hold sweat next to your skin"

Wool actually sucks at wicking (it swells instead); it's a good coldweather fiber because it puts off a small amount of heat as it dries.

For synthetics, once you've crossed a certain threshold, shape of the fiber matters more than the fiber itself.

It basically boils down to not being adequately prepared, and we paid the price, but won't make the same mistakes again

10/26/2007 9:41:50 AM