It is really inconvenient for me to meet with my advisor. I heard some majors dont have to have appointments to get their pin#.

Anyone know which ones they are?

10/17/2007 9:31:35 PM

I've never even met my advisor. BUS

10/17/2007 9:55:56 PM

first of all, it is PIN: Personal Identification Number, NOT PIN#, that would be Personal Identification Number Number, which really pisses me off when I read/hear it.


business management has advisor meetings and group advising that distribute PINs. but this year, seniors in BUS can just go online to mypack portal and look their PIN up there due to a lack of academic advisors to go around this semester.


... are you asking so you can switch to a major that doesn't require seeing an advisor to get your PIN? j/k

but i think it also depends on the advisor, i know some people that are in the same major and one has to go to see an advisor while the other gets his PIN emailed to him.

10/17/2007 9:57:12 PM

my advisor gives me no advising whatsoever, he just asks what i need him to do and i hand him the advisor form to sign and i leave...i dont think he cares one bit about what classes im taking (doster in ne if youre interested)

10/17/2007 11:03:35 PM

He's one of the better advisors you could ever ask for, except that if you act like you don't give a damn, you can't expect anything out of him. Have you ever asked him for real advising?

10/17/2007 11:14:02 PM

^ no, ive never had any real issues as to what i needed to take...which is why i agree with the guy who started this thread that advising appts are pointless and should only be made if the student has questions or issues concerning their classes and schedules and so forth

10/18/2007 10:40:22 AM

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"first of all, it is PIN: Personal Identification Number, NOT PIN#, that would be Personal Identification Number Number, which really pisses me off when I read/hear it."

oh, for the love of...cry me a sack of shut-the-hell-up

10/18/2007 1:30:04 PM

So there I was at the ATM Machine trying to get money to buy my SCUBA apparatus when my mind wondered about the workings of the this machine...did it run on AC current or DC current? Hmm, no time to wonder about such things.. The LCD display of the ATM machine prompted me to enter my PIN number... I can go on all day

10/18/2007 1:40:58 PM

^I find that RPG games usually help me forget about that kind of stuff.

10/18/2007 2:31:45 PM

i know that ME did at least from 2002-2006 if you had greater than a 3.0 GPA, but they changed it

[Edited on October 18, 2007 at 2:42 PM. Reason : waste of time

10/18/2007 2:42:00 PM

I have two majors (English & French), and at this point, we are all on the same page and the releasing of the PIN is a formality. However, this was not true at the beginning and one reason that I am in such good shape now is the conversations that I had with my advisers.

10/18/2007 6:38:24 PM

CSC! I am so glad I graduated before Hatch left.

10/21/2007 1:06:48 AM

I got my BSEE in Electrical Engineering.

I also don't recall advising being a big deal. of course we had (and still have) a great undergrad adviser.



[Edited on October 21, 2007 at 8:09 PM. Reason : ]

10/21/2007 7:47:28 PM

Math, never go to one

10/21/2007 9:32:54 PM

both of my advisers (I have one for each major) have been extremely helpful over the years when I've been trying to juggle all of my requirements in the right order

Would it really kill you to take five minutes to check in with somebody?

10/21/2007 9:56:53 PM

Are you about to pick a major so you won't have to have a 5 minute appointment with an advisor? Please tell me you are joking.

10/21/2007 10:38:08 PM

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"I am so glad I graduated before Hatch left."

Whoa, when did Hatch leave? Picking up the pin and leaving was always nice.

10/22/2007 1:07:38 AM

^^ yeah, i dont get it either

10/22/2007 1:27:28 AM

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"It is really inconvenient for me to meet with my advisor. I heard some majors dont have to have appointments to get their pin#."

Your basing 4-5 years of college on having to meet with someone for 2 seconds to pick up a number?

Maybe your biggest problem isn't your time concerns ...

10/22/2007 9:42:58 AM

Thank you hammster and meatstick! You shouldn't pick what you want to study around whether or not a process is easy or time consuming. Advising to get a PIN usually only takes a couple of minutes or in cases where you actually sit down and have a great conversation with your adviser around registration time, it takes a max of 30-45 miniutes, once a semester. I don't think that is too much too endure.

Most of the time when majors have had policies such as easy PIN distribution, it is only because they did not have the advisers to see everyone in the registration period as they would like. They would let the students with better grades (assuming they know what they are doing) get their PINS without advising appointments. They didn't really want to do this and many students who were apart of that group didn't really like it. I used to hear from students in such groups that they were disappointed with the process. True, they got their PIN without hassle, but they really didn't get helped either. What they really wanted was a connection with a concerned and thoughtful adviser who could guide and provide insight into classes, career planning and academic and professional options.

Students tend to want PINs quickly when either they refuse to believe they can learn something from an adviser (give me 20 minutes and I will prove any of your wrong) or in those cases where the advising relationship or process is not productive. In the latter, we should be doing something to fix the advising process rather than run away from it with a quick PIN. I believe the Provost is trying to do that with an infusion of new new advising positions across campus.

10/23/2007 6:12:25 AM

my advisor just emailed it to me half the time, and then I'd meet with her to discuss what I picked once in a while...

10/23/2007 10:31:36 AM

^ did you find that helpful? Would you have preferred to have more conversations, suggestions, opportunities made apparent to you? I think a good advising system provides people a variety of ways to get the help they want. That way they can get as much or as little as they wish. Most students will engage in a system as long as they find it helpful.

10/25/2007 11:57:20 AM

BUS

10/26/2007 3:54:41 PM

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"Whoa, when did Hatch leave? Picking up the pin and leaving was always nice."

She retired a year ago I believe.

10/28/2007 5:11:21 PM