due to a marathon, Wow..............

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/07/chicago.marathon.ap/index.html

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"CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- Organizers shut down the course four hours after the start of Sunday's Chicago Marathon because of 88-degree heat and sweltering humidity that left one runner dead and sent 250 people to area hospitals with heat-related ailments. Chad Schieber of Midland, Michigan, 35, collapsed while running on the South Side and was pronounced dead shortly before 1 p.m. at a Veteran's Affairs hospital, the Cook County medical examiner's office. An autopsy was scheduled for Monday. There was another running death Sunday in Arlington, Virginia. An unidentified runner from Virginia died during the Army Ten-Miler, collapsing near the finish at the Pentagon. The race started in 70-degree heat and high humidity. The Chicago race was run in record temperatures, topping the mark of 84 degrees in 1979. Watch runners take on the race in record heat » Kenya's Patrick Ivuti leaned at the finish line to edge Jaouad Gharib of Morocco by 0.05 seconds, making him the fifth straight Kenyan to win the race. Runners were diverted to the starting area, where they were provided with medical attention and cooling misters. Shortages of water and energy drinks were reported along the 26.2-mile route. "We're seeing a lot of our participants slowing," race director Carey Pinkowski said. "It was a contingency plan we had in place and we decided to implement as a precautionary measure." At first, organizers hoped those who passed the halfway mark could complete the run. But eventually even those recreational runners were told to turn back. Still, some runners persevered, although organizers said they didn't know how many completed the course. Helicopters hovered over the race course while police officers shouted through a bullhorn and warned runners to slow down and walk. Almost 10,000 of the 45,000 registered runners chose to not race in the heat despite more mist stations, cooling buses and water-soaked sponges. Ivuti, competing in only his second major marathon, was timed in 2 hours, 11 minutes, 11 seconds in the closest finish in the race's history. "I had never seen a marathon finish up close that was like that," head referee Pat Savage said. "This was really close, but at the same time you could see that one man was ahead of the other." Ethiopia's Berhane Adere rallied to successfully defend her women's title. Adere was timed in 2:33:49 after passing a surprised Adriana Pirtea, who had a comfortable 30-second lead after 24.8 miles. Ivuti and Gharib surged ahead of defending champion Robert Cheruiyot and Daniel Njenga at the 22-mile mark to make it a two-man race. Gharib led for much of the final four miles before Ivuti made a push on the final mile. "One thing I had in my mind was that everybody is going to face the same heat," Ivuti said. "I had no problem with that because everybody was going through the same thing as me." The duo traded leads on the stretch run down Columbus Avenue before Ivuti's final push at the line. The race was so close that it took organizers several minutes to determine the winner. Njenga finished third and Cheruiyot fourth. Cheruiyot was in position to contend but stomach cramps forced him to drop back after 22 miles. Cheruiyot, who last year slipped on the finish line and banged his head on the pavement as he raised his hands to celebrate, finished in 2:16:13. Pirtea waved to the crowd as she listlessly approached the finish line. But a final push on the last mile by Adere caught the Romanian in the final stretch. "At 40 (kilometers), I could see she was going slowly," Adere said. "I knew if I started working from that point on, there was a possibility to catch her." Pirtea tried to sprint toward the finish line, but finished three seconds behind. "

10/7/2007 7:16:23 PM

that'll teach those bastards!

10/7/2007 7:17:36 PM

seriously though, it's gotta suck to die from running. that's the lamest way to go.

10/7/2007 7:18:31 PM

yeah I quit running as exercise after I finished high school cross country,

that shit will kill you

10/7/2007 7:19:33 PM

yeah steve irwin set the bar pretty high with cool ways to go

10/7/2007 7:19:44 PM

that's not a race, this is a race:

http://www.badwater.com/

10/7/2007 7:20:19 PM

idiots.

10/7/2007 7:22:12 PM

yeah, a family friend of ours was bitten by a dog when she was out running one day. I said it then, and I say it again now, running is too dangerous, and this is why I don't do it.

10/7/2007 7:25:22 PM

I wonder who will get sued for these deaths? I'm guessing both the city of Chicago and the marathon's officials will get sued (unless they're one and the same). Maybe nike too for making running shoes.

10/7/2007 7:27:37 PM

I think the weatherman on WGN et al...after all, I'm sure none of them said anything about the temperature and humidity

10/7/2007 7:29:53 PM

It's not the heat, it's the humidity.

10/7/2007 7:31:45 PM

well whatever it is...it's obviously not the people who were hospitalizeds fault...

10/7/2007 7:33:01 PM

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"yeah, a family friend of ours was bitten by a dog when she was out running one day. I said it then, and I say it again now, running is too dangerous,"

along the same lines, a guy who used to run cross country on our squad for a year or two was out running and had a dog leap out at him, he naturally jumped back as a reaction and got hit by a car and killed

also had a dude get hit by a car during xc practice once

10/7/2007 7:34:41 PM

see...my point EXACTLY... stupid runners puttin their lives at risk for such foolishness

10/7/2007 7:35:43 PM

running is fun

10/7/2007 7:36:05 PM

it was hotter or as hot here as it was in cary this weekend, sucks for those runners

I think 35000 signed up, 25000 showed up, and only 4000 finished.

10/7/2007 7:36:11 PM

GLOBAL WARMING...

10/7/2007 7:40:39 PM

my2cents, i hope you do some sort of excercise, you know, you dont want to become a fatty....running too dangerous...LMAO.....running is too dangerous for the lazy fucks that dont want to excercise...shit happens....


i fell of the treadmill, those are too dangerous, cant do that anymore!!!!

While I was walking, I tripped over my own feet....cant do that anymore....to dangerous!

but yum, that double whopper with cheese, yum...be careful, dont choke on it!

I have been running for almost 10 years, do it during the right time of the day and have water and everything is fine. The WF BB coach died....he was running..DONT DO IT!

[Edited on October 7, 2007 at 8:17 PM. Reason : w]

10/7/2007 8:16:19 PM

i think someone missed the point.

10/7/2007 8:21:57 PM

if i'm gonna have to run, i'm going to steal some shit first.

10/7/2007 8:23:41 PM

number is over 300 now

10/7/2007 8:26:47 PM

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"88-degree heat"

I rode a century this summer that started at 82 degrees at 8am and finished around 1pm at 93 degrees

I was twitchy at the end but it didn't kill me or any other rider. I would have thought runners were use to some mild heat.

Maybe they thought they could do it without fluids?

10/7/2007 8:32:51 PM

you gotta porbably think those who are having the problems are the type of people who go ooh that sounds like fun"

not the top tier of runners or even the enthusiasts who actually train

10/7/2007 8:48:51 PM

^^Yeah, I gotta agree. I'm a little miffed at how this happened in just 88-degree heat...

People in poor average physical condition who got hammered the night before and refused water during the race?

[Edited on October 7, 2007 at 9:13 PM. Reason : Very few people in poor condition would run long enough to be hurt.]

10/7/2007 9:05:54 PM

Cycling 100 miles is still not as physically taxing as a marathon (though I guess you could make the argument for either, depending on pace). You have to think that when you have 35,000 people, one dying from what may have been a heretofore unknown congenital deficiency is really not that surprising. Look at Skip Prosser. He wasn't running a marathon. Fatties will use anything as an excuse to not exercise.

10/7/2007 9:18:44 PM

10/7/2007 9:22:00 PM

^^Yeah, I'm thinking the guy who died had something else other than a little heat working against him.

But the number of people hospitalized still seems extreme. Maybe they were super cautious after the guy died...?

[Edited on October 7, 2007 at 9:23 PM. Reason : ?]

10/7/2007 9:22:45 PM

just look up HOCM:

http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic290.htm

10/7/2007 9:25:37 PM

^^CNN likes to sensationalize, as do all so-called news networks that continue to blur the lines between their programming and Entertainment Tonight. If you click on the link, they have since revised the story. The opening paragraph now reads:

Quote :

"Organizers shut down the course four hours after the start of Sunday's Chicago Marathon because of 88-degree heat and sweltering humidity that left one runner dead and sent at least 49 to area hospitals. Another 250 were treated at the site."

[Edited on October 7, 2007 at 9:26 PM. Reason : ]

10/7/2007 9:26:29 PM

http://crasspollination.blogspot.com/2007/10/myoglobinpalooza.html

10/7/2007 10:53:52 PM

^Interesting perspective.

10/7/2007 10:56:53 PM

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"sweltering 88-degree heat"

WTF?

10/8/2007 2:08:47 AM

I think some of you forgot about the high humidity levels that day. I'm sure the concrete of the structures and sidewalks and asphalt roads also contributed to the heat, and the tall buildings can block the wind.

http://blogs.trb.com/news/weather/weblog/wgnweather/

And this is pretty good:

Ten reasons to skip the Chicago Marathon

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"Heart: The risk of dying from a heart attack during a marathon is very small-about 1 in 50,000 runners-but studies have shown running can stress the old ticker. If the heart is traumatized, a protein found in cardiac muscle cells called troponin can show up in the blood, an indication that heart muscle cells have been destroyed. One study looked at 60 runners who had no signs of troponin in their blood before a marathon. Twenty minutes after the race, 60 percent of the group had elevated troponin levels, and 40 percent had levels high enough to indicate damage to some heart muscle cells. Most also had noticeable changes in heart rhythms. In addition, healthy men over 50 who had finished at least five marathons in the last five years have been shown to be more likely to have major calcium deposits in their arteries than healthy men who did not run as much. Calcium buildup is a sign that arteries are hardening, even when patients lack other symptoms."

Quote :

"Jogger's nipple: This embarrassing, bloody mess usually strikes men; it's a friction burn caused when the T-shirt chafes the nipple. It's worse in cold, wet conditions. Wearing mesh, rather than cotton, and applying petroleum jelly to the nipples and covering them with adhesive bandages can help prevent it."

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/features_julieshealthclub/2007/10/ten-reasons-to-.html

10/8/2007 2:39:56 AM

"Jogger's nipple"

10/8/2007 2:44:19 AM

under armour ftw

10/8/2007 2:45:21 AM

silly healthy people

10/8/2007 7:22:34 AM

Quote :

"I'm a little miffed at how this happened in just 88-degree heat..."

High humidity means your sweat doesn't evaporate nearly as fast and is rendered nearly useless as a means to cool you off. At that point hydration alone isn't sufficient since the sweating isn't really working to the extent it should anyways. It's enough to push people who'd normally be OK into heat exhaustion territory. The cases of full-blown heat stroke were probably people who weren't in shape to be doing a marathon in anything but ideal conditions anyways.

Add to that people who are in decent enough shape to run the marathon, but not experienced enough runners to realize when they're feeling too shitty to keep pushing themselves and this is what you get.

10/8/2007 10:29:09 AM

^ Right. And environment is everything.

Would you expect three Army Ranger trainees age range 23-27 to die of hypothermia in temperatures of 60-70 degrees F? You might is you realized they were immersed in swamp water that was ~52 degrees F. Unfortunately, it actually happened.

http://www.bordeninstitute.army.mil/published_volumes/harshEnv1/Ch17-ColdWaterImmersion.pdf

10/9/2007 12:20:16 AM

Jogger's Nipple is very real. Just ask the crew at Dunder....

10/9/2007 1:25:36 AM

I thought this thread was about Gumby's

10/9/2007 1:28:59 AM

^^ You mean Dunder Mifflin? LOL. Sounds like a Dwight ailment, doesn't it?

10/10/2007 1:03:54 AM

Well, well, well. . . what do we have here?

http://www.superathletics.co.za/default.asp?id=231691&des=article&scat=superathletics/running

Quote :

"Heart condition killed marathon runner Posted on Monday, October 08, 2007 - 23:03 A heart condition, not record-setting heat, killed a man who died running during an unusually hot and humid Chicago Marathon, an autopsy showed on Monday. Chad Schieber, 35, collapsed well into Sunday's race, leading to speculation his death was related to the 31-degree Celsius temperatures that forced organisers to announce they were halting the race. Several other people collapsed, and at least two remained in critical condition on Monday. The medical examiner's office said Schieber had mitral valve prolapse and did not die from the heat, according to the Cook County Medical Examiner's office. The condition is a "common heart disorder" in which the valve between the "heart's left upper chamber and lower left chamber does not close properly," according to MayoClinic.com. It is in most cases harmless, the sometimes requires treatment, the website says. Schieber, police officer from the state of Michigan, was pronounced dead shortly before 1 pm at a Veteran's Affairs hospital, according to the medical examiner's office. "It sounds like he lost his pulse very fast and died on the race course," George Chiampas, the race's medical director, said at a news conference. Chiampas said witnesses reported seeing Schieber collapse and become unresponsive. At least 49 people were taken to hospitals, while another 250 were treated onsite, many for heat-related ailments. About 10 000 of the 45 000 registered runners never even showed for the race, while another 10 934 started but didn't finish, officials said. Within two hours of the 8 am start time, temperatures already had reached a race-record of 31 degrees Celsius. The previous marathon record of 29 degrees Celsius was set in 1979. The high heat index prompted organisers to stop the race at 11:30 am, about three and a half hours into the run."

Quote :

"You have to think that when you have 35,000 people, one dying from what may have been a heretofore unknown congenital deficiency is really not that surprising."

I'm good.

[Edited on October 10, 2007 at 10:44 PM. Reason : ]

10/10/2007 10:43:21 PM

^ Means that this was about right on the ratio:

Quote :

"Heart: The risk of dying from a heart attack during a marathon is very small-about 1 in 50,000 runners-but studies have shown running can stress the old ticker. If the heart is traumatized, a protein found in cardiac muscle cells called troponin can show up in the blood, an indication that heart muscle cells have been destroyed. One study looked at 60 runners who had no signs of troponin in their blood before a marathon. Twenty minutes after the race, 60 percent of the group had elevated troponin levels, and 40 percent had levels high enough to indicate damage to some heart muscle cells. Most also had noticeable changes in heart rhythms. In addition, healthy men over 50 who had finished at least five marathons in the last five years have been shown to be more likely to have major calcium deposits in their arteries than healthy men who did not run as much. Calcium buildup is a sign that arteries are hardening, even when patients lack other symptoms."

10/10/2007 11:05:51 PM