so i heard the other day about some 5k thing hillary wanted to do for babies born and i just read that the children healthcare was gonna be an election issue and have it go up to 83k....are those related?


what if all these kids are born as incentive to get 5k and then want to get cheap under 83k gov medicine

10/3/2007 9:56:06 PM

10/3/2007 9:59:59 PM

Really firing on all cylinders today

10/3/2007 10:05:19 PM

i feel like a zombie right now

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 10:34 PM. Reason : can you have a kid and put it up for adoption and still get 5k?]

10/3/2007 10:32:43 PM

you don't get the 5k dumbass.

it's put in a trust for the kid.

10/4/2007 10:53:02 AM

well still...wouldnt this create a mini baby boom or something?

10/4/2007 8:31:59 PM

IBTL

10/4/2007 8:52:01 PM

what i'm getting is this seems really expensive and not good

10/4/2007 8:53:02 PM

Whats worse on your brain cells?

Drinking a lot and snorting coke....OR

reading DNL's threads/posts.

10/4/2007 8:54:09 PM

i'm really trying to make a point here!

10/4/2007 9:14:26 PM

Just go away man.

10/4/2007 9:27:57 PM

10/4/2007 9:59:50 PM

as dumb some of the posts in this thread are, baby bonds are a relevent issue (and stupid idea) that make for quite legitimate discussion (or at least ridicule of the idea and anyone who thinks it's a good one).

10/5/2007 12:45:52 AM

baby bonds WTF are those

10/5/2007 1:28:46 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/29/us/politics/29bond.html?ex=1348718400&en=872069b680e471d2&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss



also, some have had the idea to have national service (military or civil) like so many other countries...it wouldn't be mandatory, but you wouldn't get to cash in your baby bond if you didn't do it.

10/5/2007 1:41:10 AM

That baby bond thing is about as stupid as Bush's $300 tax refund to every american.

^ That military or civilian service type deal is a good idea duke about being able to cash it in; but I thought military personal and those they serve in something like the peace corp already get a large subsidy to attend school after their tour of duty.

All the candidates suck in my opinion. One groups wants to give out my money for stupid social programs and turn us into this big Green Politically Correct Nation. The other wants to spend my money dropping bombs, as leverage to lower their corporate taxes, and turn us into a Christian Value nation

[Edited on October 5, 2007 at 1:21 PM. Reason : l]

10/5/2007 1:10:05 PM

Quote :

"That baby bond thing is about as stupid as Bush's $300 tax refund to every american."

yeah, but at least that $300 dollars is a refund for money that was wrongfully stolen in the first place, not an entitlement...

10/5/2007 10:31:29 PM

^ yeah, pretty much

Quote :

"^ That military or civilian service type deal is a good idea duke about being able to cash it in; but I thought military personal and those they serve in something like the peace corp already get a large subsidy to attend school after their tour of duty."

i haven't thought about it that much, and I don't know the numbers, costs, and details behind it. it just doesn't really strike me as being that necessary.

and what you are referring to is the Montgomery G.I. Bill (MGIB). You don't automatically get it, but if you buy in for $1200 ($100/month for your first year on active duty), you're eligible. I think it's about a $40,000 benefit as of right now.

10/6/2007 12:13:03 AM

Honestly i think politics is a lose- lose situation. People are always going to be bitching about something. If their was a perfect solution then you'd think someone would have found it and implemented it into the model form of govt that everyone would follow.

10/6/2007 2:33:34 AM