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bbehe
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Has any college ever done this as an effective strategy? I'm sure there has I just can't think of any examples. However, I think we should but Beck in for the long game, and as soon as we hit red zone, put Evans in.

9/10/2007 3:40:28 PM

simonn
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you must watch a lot of college football.

9/10/2007 3:42:14 PM

rflong
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Florida last year - wow.

9/10/2007 3:42:34 PM

bbehe
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^^ Nope, just follow a couple teams.

9/10/2007 3:43:18 PM

simonn
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clearly. florida won the national championship last year doing this, as rflong has pointed out.

9/10/2007 3:44:53 PM

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Lol, let Beck throw 6 30 yard passes a drive, 3 of those we complete and get us down to the 20

and yea Flordia seemed pretty succesful rotating QBs, I think it was a bit of different situation though...Since neither of our QBs can really run and neither are great throwing the ball...

9/10/2007 3:44:58 PM

simonn
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beck'll be fine anyway, just hang tight. the next brett favre on our hands.

9/10/2007 3:47:36 PM

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Florida did it a LOT more years ago with Danny Awfuel and Terry Dean, they were about 50/50 to 60/40 one year. Last year was more of a gimmick

9/10/2007 3:48:23 PM

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"However, I think we should but Beck in for the long game, and as soon as we hit red zone, put Evans in."


How ironic. I have been saying we should do that. And I am being serious.

9/10/2007 3:48:29 PM

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^^^^ ha ha and true

But really, there have been somewhat successful combinations of dual QB offenses, but the way Florida ran it last year was by far the most effective primarily because Tim Tebow is a fucking stud and built like a linebacker.

There have also been many dual QB situations that failed miserably. The most notable one in my mind also came out of UF when Spurrier kept rotating Doug Johnson and Jesse Palmer. UF was still good, but they had national championship talent.

[Edited on September 10, 2007 at 3:52 PM. Reason : ^^^]

9/10/2007 3:51:22 PM

simonn
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beck still #1 on the depth chart for this week.

good, good.

9/10/2007 3:54:42 PM

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Chris Simms and Major Applewhite were a great combo.





Simms would dig a deep hole and Applewhite would *almost* get Texas out of it.

9/10/2007 3:58:02 PM

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Schaeffer and Ainge worked great until Brent got hurt

9/10/2007 4:00:49 PM

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I just wish our RB stable would turn out to be like Cadillac and Brown... then I wouldn't bitch about a QB.

9/10/2007 4:02:39 PM

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^that auburn O-line was 100x better than ours, and none of our QB's are Jason Campbells

9/10/2007 4:25:42 PM

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also that Auburn defense was off the chain

I mean that team should've played USC for the title but they got screwed for OKLAHOMA

9/10/2007 4:27:56 PM

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"Lol, let Beck throw 6 30 yard passes a drive, 3 of those we complete and get us down to the 20"


I guess your math is accounting for the 15 yards worth of penalties (+/- 5 yards) we average on every drive.

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"Simms would dig a deep hole and Applewhite would *almost* get Texas out of it.
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Hahaha. So true. Chris Simms, what a little bitch.

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"I mean that team should've played USC for the title but they got screwed for OKLAHOMA.
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Yeah, that shit pissed me off, and I usually pull for Bama.

9/11/2007 3:46:33 PM

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"Has any college ever done this as an effective strategy? I'm sure there has I just can't think of any examples"


unc did it bunting's first year with ronald curry and darian durant and got to the peach bowl, but with that team a blind retard could've gotten at least that

9/11/2007 4:17:13 PM

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"clearly. florida won the national championship last year doing this"

9/11/2007 4:31:33 PM

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"nc did it bunting's first year with ronald curry and darian durant and got to the peach bowl, but with that team a blind retard could've gotten at least that
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Yeah but all of the opposing fans cheered when Curry got put in becuase they knew he'd throw an INT.

Durant was good. Curry... not so much

9/11/2007 4:35:37 PM

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well imo curry just received piss poor coaching during his tenure, because there's no way he was as bad as he appeared. regardless, durant was more effective so curry should've been moved to WR or safety to maximize his athletic ability

but i digress from the thread. in general, rotating QB's is stupid and counterproductive

[Edited on September 11, 2007 at 4:41 PM. Reason : .]

9/11/2007 4:41:16 PM

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i remember one game back in the day when spurrier switched quarterbacks every single play for the entire game and won the game; that was some crazy stuff

9/11/2007 7:27:16 PM

Brass Monkey
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Michigan had some success with Tom Brady as starter and Drew Henson coming in when they needed more mobility. Michigan even would have Brady pretend like he was injured for a play or two and have Henson come in. Henson was more mobile and caused opposing defenses match up problems when they couldn't quickly sub in. I distinctly remember a game against Penn State where Michigan was lined up on one hash. Michigan brought Henson in to run a HB throw back to Henson all the way on the other side of the field and he ran for down the sideline like 20 or 30 yards. Henson also had a stronger arm than Brady, but just didn't have the experience at the time to be the full time starter.

9/11/2007 8:27:03 PM

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Might work for some teams but this is ncsu were talking about, anything we would try would ultimately end in a total disaster it's just how we roll.

9/11/2007 8:37:27 PM

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what are you talking about, stone and davis were freaking legends

9/11/2007 8:45:15 PM

Brass Monkey
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If we were to run a two QB system it would have to involve Russell Wilson. The main reason you would use a two QB system is to throw different looks at opposing defenses. Right now with Beck we have a pocket passing QB who has a strong arm, some mobility but won't really outrun LBs out in the space past the line of scrimmage if the pocket breaks down. With Wilson's speed, we could use him on QB draws, option plays with the RBs, or bootleg options where he has the option to pass to 2 or more WRs or tuck it an run if they are covered. The UF situation last year is usually the most common form of a two QB system, with one good passing QB and one good running QB.

9/11/2007 8:48:27 PM

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^^I heard State is retiring their numbers next game

9/11/2007 8:51:06 PM

dkake
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'94&95 Nebraska used Brook Berringer and Tommy Fraizer to some success

9/11/2007 8:52:37 PM

simonn
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^^^ are you just assuming wilson can scramble b/c he's black?

9/11/2007 8:55:01 PM

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did someone mention rotating pies???

9/11/2007 8:58:57 PM

Brass Monkey
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"are you just assuming wilson can scramble b/c he's black?"


No, haven't you seen the highlight vids of Wilson? Wilson can flat out fly and avoid defenders when playing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH1d0m9nYRw

I don't make those kind of racial assumptions. While not blazing speed, he's still got more speed than a lot of QBs, and better speed than the rest of our QBs. Besides Liu Xiang, representing China in the most recent Olympics, won the 100 m hurdles. Stereotypes are stupid.

9/11/2007 9:26:23 PM

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hahaha, I love it how everyone in ST phrases their responses to reinforce the fact that the other person doesn't watch/know/understand football as much as they do... sometimes its blatant, sometimes its subtle.






































I do it at times too, but I am always right so it doesn't count

9/11/2007 9:48:51 PM

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...but seriously, we'll be fine

9/11/2007 11:06:50 PM

Ernie
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"unc did it bunting's first year with ronald curry and darian durant and got to the peach bowl, but with that team a blind retard could've gotten at least that"


i always thought durant was a really good QB stuck on some shitty teams, i was suprised that he got no attention at all from pro scouts

curry was just a great athlete who became the default QB when there was no one else who could play the position effectively

[Edited on September 11, 2007 at 11:14 PM. Reason : apparently durant is the 3rd string QB for the saskatchewan roughriders]

9/11/2007 11:12:19 PM

Brass Monkey
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Yeah didn't Durant leave UNC as their all time best QB, and holds a number of their records. I kind of felt bad for him for being on such terrible teams, but then remembered he was a Tar Heel and came to my senses.

9/11/2007 11:14:33 PM

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why not start wilson 4 years? its not like he can be THAT much worse than beck.

9/11/2007 11:17:50 PM

statered
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"curry was just a great athlete who became the default QB when there was no one else who could play the position effectively"


Actually he was the #1 rated dual-threat quarterback recruit his senior year. So yes he was athletic, but he was also supposed to be a kick-ass quarterback.

9/11/2007 11:37:41 PM

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florida

9/11/2007 11:53:46 PM

Ernie
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"Actually he was the #1 rated dual-threat quarterback recruit his senior year. So yes he was athletic, but he was also supposed to be a kick-ass quarterback."


curry was never considered by anyone to be a kickass quarterback

i'm pretty sure his career completion percentage at carolina was under 50%

he was just an awesome athlete, probably the best on the team, so it was pretty crucial that he touch the ball every play

that's why he was drafted in the seventh round, behind about 10 other more kickass quarterbacks

that's why he's a farily kickass wide receiver now

9/12/2007 12:38:38 AM

statered
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"curry was never considered by anyone to be a kickass quarterback

i'm pretty sure his career completion percentage at carolina was under 50%"


This is true. I doubt anyone who saw him play a series in college would have considered him a kickass quarterback. This is why I qualified my statement with the following

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"he was also supposed to be a kick-ass quarterback."


Maybe you didn't see the "supposed to be" part? I've heard of selective hearing but never selective reading. Next time, maybe you should read my whole post before coming up with your next kickass comment.

9/12/2007 12:51:25 AM

markgoal
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Philip Rivers and Olin Hannum!

9/12/2007 1:08:28 AM

rflong
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^ haha I loved it when Olin Hannum would come into the game. You knew some trick ass shit was about to happen. I heard he is a cowboy/farmer or something now. There was a thread about him a while back.

9/12/2007 12:30:41 PM

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