i assumed i could find it at wake tech but i was wrong. I also checked ECU and durham tech and they dont offer it either. Any ideas or is that just a no go?

8/22/2007 9:41:00 AM

a&t

http://fac.ncat.edu/dist/fall.html

[Edited on August 22, 2007 at 9:46 AM. Reason : link]

8/22/2007 9:46:07 AM

They do offer it at WTCC.

You need to find the NCSU course equivalents page, or the comm college equivalency PDF, to find the institution course number that's equivalent to calc at NCSU.

[Edited on August 22, 2007 at 9:51 AM. Reason : lsk]

8/22/2007 9:51:21 AM

lmao i would not take calc online.

8/22/2007 10:05:18 AM

The Egyptians did it without freakin calculators. What's your excuse?

8/22/2007 10:06:21 AM

the egyptians also couldn't do long division

8/22/2007 10:09:59 AM

I will take calculus over long division any day.

8/22/2007 10:11:39 AM

haha, try taking a square root by hand...

8/22/2007 10:13:18 AM

I took MA 121 Elements of Calc through distance ed. here at ncsu this summer, so you can probably go that route.

8/22/2007 10:34:18 AM

you should not take a technical course like this online - especially with your apparent intelligence level

8/22/2007 10:49:42 AM

121 & 131 are both available on DVD. 121 was an absolute cakewalk, 4 take home tests and the final on campus. Plus Dr. Lada is hilarious. He speaks so slowly and clearly that you can watch the DVDs on 2x and still understand everything he says.

8/22/2007 10:57:26 AM

Omar, you are a douche.


Just felt that needed to be said.

8/22/2007 10:57:43 AM

nvm

[Edited on August 22, 2007 at 12:00 PM. Reason : nvm]

8/22/2007 11:59:40 AM

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"The Egyptians did it without freakin calculators. What's your excuse?"

Egyptians did calculus?

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"haha, try taking a square root by hand..."

Yeah, who knows how to do that? I used to know it but I have forgotten. Will re-learn it soon again.

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"you should not take a technical course like this online - especially with your apparent intelligence level"

There, fixed it.

8/22/2007 12:11:23 PM

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"Yeah, who knows how to do that? "

it's basically like long division--you take the root instead of dividing, square it and subtract

[Edited on August 22, 2007 at 12:27 PM. Reason : something like that--it's been a long time since i've done one]

8/22/2007 12:14:35 PM

Thanks!

8/22/2007 12:16:27 PM

I wish they would offer MA 132 online. I still have to take that one and I just haven't gotten around to it.

Does anyone know what the class is like?

8/22/2007 12:35:57 PM

I took MA 141 and 241 through DE with Griggs and I'm taking 242 this semester with Norris online. Its not that hard at all, you just have to discipline yourself.

8/22/2007 12:44:03 PM

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"I wish they would offer MA 132 online. I still have to take that one and I just haven't gotten around to it. "

8/22/2007 12:57:54 PM

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"haha, try taking a square root by hand..."

Haha I don't think I was ever even taught how to do that. I was always just told to use a calculator or computer.

8/22/2007 4:13:25 PM

i had ma 141 and 241 online with griggs. easy class, but it's almost impossible to get a hold of griggs.

8/22/2007 5:12:42 PM

just had my first class today with griggs for a math/stat class, he doesnt seem like a great teacher to me, he may know his stuff but as far as teaching it, it seems poor

8/22/2007 8:00:49 PM

Perhaps your opinion will change by the end of the course...most of Dr. Griggs' students say that he is an excellent instructor.

8/22/2007 8:09:30 PM

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"but it's almost impossible to get a hold of griggs."

My old roommate had a fiasco with her MA 231 final that wasn't in any way her fault (IIRC, she was either sick or had an exam conflict - something went awry on the TAs end. Car accident, maybe?). She got an incomplete, and then the TA just up and vanished. She was told to contact Griggs. She emailed and called on a regular basis. Then a secretary started stonewalling her when she'd try to find out when he'd be in. Because he was such a dick, that I became an F at the end of the semester. I forget if she camped out at his office, or if she had to get someone from another college involved, but he FINALLY communicated with her. He told her to take the final of any teacher teaching MA 231, and that final grade would be her course grade. It all turned out well for her, as she got an A+, but it's absolutely reprehensible for him to act like that.

8/22/2007 8:39:20 PM

Dr. Griggs is one of the best math teachers i've had at state

8/22/2007 9:17:15 PM

Okay, first, about MA 132, you pretty much don't have to go to class. So if you're taking NCSU classes already, you can add the class. I went the first week, but it was a FUCKING WASTE.

Second, I'm ambrosia1231's old roommate. So here's my 'story'.
I was taking MA 231, and my exam was in the second week of exams. I'm diabetic, and got sick over that weekend. Monday morning, when I had my exam, I went to Student Health, got a note and examination, and emailed my TA when I got back.
He told me that since it was already late into the exam time, he'd give me an IN and I could make it up in the fall.
In the fall, I tried emailing the TA, to no avail. I then began emailing Dr. Griggs, b/c I had no idea what happened to the TA. I emailed and called him multiple times that semester. But my schedule was completely on Centennial campus, so the only time I could even make it to Harrelson was after 5pm.
So in the spring, after watching my IN (and A average in the MA 231 class) turn into an F, I finally had an opportunity to go to his office. I had a spanish class in Harrelson, and stopped by his office many different times before the secretary offered to set up an appointment with him.
Finally had the appt, and he basically said "Oh, your TA didn't leave me any papers, so I ignored your emails." He said he had my final exam somewhere on his desk at one point and time but could not find it anymore.
He finally told me to contact one of the professors teaching MA 231 that semester, and take their final at the end of the semester.
(My TA had moved to Greensboro, that's why I couldn't get in touch with him, etc etc.)
I ended up with an A for the final grade. Griggs was just going to use the exam grade for my final grade, b/c he did not have any test grades from when I took the class. But during the course of that spring semester, he finally tracked down the TA and got my test grades.

8/22/2007 9:45:30 PM

Griggs is one of the most available professors around, you could have avoided much of this trouble by finding time to go and talk to him in person. Why in the world did you let it go for so long? Anyway, it sounds like your TA was more to blame then Dr. Griggs. For all he knew you were just trying to hustle him.

8/23/2007 12:41:42 AM

I let it go on so long because I couldn't get in touch with him. The times in the fall semester when I got over to Harrelson, he has nowhere to be found. That whole semester was one of my craziest with my Textile classes, and I literally couldn't get over there till after he had left, on most days.

I was also a little perturbed he couldn't have just shot me an email back to at least acknowledge he had gotten any of them. I know it's mostly my fault, but it was just very annoying to not have any reciprocated form of communication. But, I realized that there are just some faculty that require you to make a more concerted effort for them to pay you any attention. I was overall pleased with the results, though... I was able to take the exam with the other professor at a time when my exam schedule wasn't really heavy (instead of whenever Griggs/whoever decided), and I got a good grade. I had a lot of trouble with Calc I (some trouble with the understanding of it - seemed so very foreign to me - and some general slackass trouble), and in Calc II, I did a lot better, with study skills and my comprehension. So I wanted to make sure I got a good grade that time around!

8/23/2007 2:43:56 AM

take griggs for calc just because of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko7EGXFOaQ0&mode=related&search=

[Edited on August 23, 2007 at 3:38 AM. Reason : .]

8/23/2007 3:37:02 AM

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"Griggs is one of the most available professors around, you could have avoided much of this trouble by finding time to go and talk to him in person."

when he pushes email as the best way to get in touch with him but doesn't answer for two weeks if at all, he's not in his office and his secretary is rude as fuck i start to wonder how available he is.

8/23/2007 8:23:33 PM

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"when he pushes email as the best way to get in touch with him but doesn't answer for two weeks if at all, he's not in his office and his secretary is rude as fuck i start to wonder how available he is."

Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one that has issues with his lack of communication/availability. I can't comment on how good of a professor he is or isn't, I just know what I've experienced otherwise.

8/24/2007 6:30:17 AM

I sometimes have to wait to see him since he is in charge of a lot of stuff, but his door is usually open and he is usually talking to somebody about something, if he's gone it's probably lunch or teaching, either way if you camp out there a little while he'll be back just about everyday I've been, and I'm talking about more than a dozen visits. Sorry you guys got unlucky.

8/25/2007 12:19:31 AM

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""haha, try taking a square root by hand...""

newton's method. it's pretty easy.

else, dr. griggs is one of the most fair, reasonable people i've ever met in the math department. he's always been the voice of reason every single time. i'd say nearly all the times i've gone into his office he's been there.

8/25/2007 10:40:35 AM