OK, here's the deal. On August 29th 2004, I was pulled over for 63 in a 45. I went to court on October 5th 2004. The DA reduced my ticket to 9 over (54 in a 45) and I then used my PJC, because I never get tickets and I wasn't worried about getting another one in the next 3yrs.

Well, here's the deal. Yesterday, August 1st 2007, I was pulled over and got tickets for 50 in a 35 AND running a red light. Yes, the fucker gave me two moving violations.

Anyways, I know that a PJC excuses you unless you get another ticket in 3yrs, at which time you are responsible for the consequences of BOTH tickets. I am wondering if the PJC time frame is 3yrs from the day you got the ticket (August 29th) or the day you went to court (October 5). Either way, I'm pretty much screwed as I see it.

I wonder if I can get the case continued to a different court date after Oct 5th, so then it will be after 3yrs and I can use another PJC? Any help is appreciated!

[Edited on August 2, 2007 at 8:11 PM. Reason : .]

8/2/2007 8:09:59 PM

it's from the day of the court decision i believe. you shouldn't have a problem getting it continued past october 5th, most judges will allow you three continuances for traffic violations. each continuance pushes the date 3-5 weeks.

8/2/2007 8:16:01 PM

Its from the date the PJC is granted. You should have no problem getting it continued past October. If you can't figure out how to delay it yourself, get a lawyer to handle it. Actually, sounds like you should have had an attorney for the first one. Why the heck would you get it reduced to 9 and then waste a PJC as well??? If its reduced to 9 over, it has no impact on your insurance rates. So the smart thing to do is to get it reduced, and save your PJC. Then when ticket number 2 comes around, you still have your PJC to burn and all is well with the world.

8/2/2007 8:31:14 PM

yea i'm confused as to why you used the PJC when you already had it reduced. when i had my 40 in a 25 ticket back in 2005 i had it reduced and paid court costs only. nothing went on insurance because in the eyes of the court, the ticket didnt exist anymore. there was no infraction; basically in a sense i paid off the court to make it go away. so yea, dont understand the usage of the PJC there.

8/2/2007 8:51:59 PM

i don't regularly get tickets

for that reason, i used my PJC cuz i had no idea

atleast now i have something to talk to a lawyer about. continue past Oct 5th and maybe i can use another PJC.

8/2/2007 9:01:14 PM

What are people thinking when they run red lights

8/2/2007 9:50:35 PM

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"Actually, sounds like you should have had an attorney for the first one. Why the heck would you get it reduced to 9 and then waste a PJC as well??? If its reduced to 9 over, it has no impact on your insurance rates. So the smart thing to do is to get it reduced, and save your PJC. Then when ticket number 2 comes around, you still have your PJC to burn and all is well with the world."

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"Actually, sounds like you should have had an attorney for the first one. Why the heck would you get it reduced to 9 and then waste a PJC as well??? If its reduced to 9 over, it has no impact on your insurance rates. So the smart thing to do is to get it reduced, and save your PJC. Then when ticket number 2 comes around, you still have your PJC to burn and all is well with the world."

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"Actually, sounds like you should have had an attorney for the first one. Why the heck would you get it reduced to 9 and then waste a PJC as well??? If its reduced to 9 over, it has no impact on your insurance rates. So the smart thing to do is to get it reduced, and save your PJC. Then when ticket number 2 comes around, you still have your PJC to burn and all is well with the world."

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"Actually, sounds like you should have had an attorney for the first one. Why the heck would you get it reduced to 9 and then waste a PJC as well??? If its reduced to 9 over, it has no impact on your insurance rates. So the smart thing to do is to get it reduced, and save your PJC. Then when ticket number 2 comes around, you still have your PJC to burn and all is well with the world."

8/2/2007 10:00:49 PM

YOU ARE RETARDED.


pjc's are for big shit, if you get it reduced it doesn't affect your insurance, therefore it doesn't f'n matter. you may be gettin analraped in this case. Good Luck Champ.

8/2/2007 11:47:30 PM

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"The DA reduced my ticket to 9 over (54 in a 45) and I then used my PJC, because I never get tickets and I wasn't worried about getting another one in the next 3yrs. "

what in the hell did you do that for?

8/3/2007 12:26:05 AM

As stated, get continuances. That is all.

8/3/2007 8:40:43 AM

geez

i didn't realize you guys were such "moving violation" people! you guys sound like a bunch of speeding, red light running fools!

why did i get it reduced and use my PJC? because it was my first ticket ever, and the DA would not tell me whether or not it would effect my insurance, and my insurance company wouldn't give me a straight answer.

having absolutely no experience with speeding tickets and PJC's, the DA said i should use it if i was at all worried of an insurance increase. at the time i was a fulltime student and my father was paying my car insurance. if i'd had an insurance increase, then i would have been resonsible for paying the extra, so i wanted to avoid it.

had i known you guys were such felons, i'd have come here in 2004 to get advice.

ALSO i technically ran the red light, but it wasn't a conscious decision. as it happened i was on chapel hill rd and the stoplight at weston pkwy is literally 50yds after the curve. riding behind an 18 wheeler, i didn't exactly see the stoplight before his trailer was blocking it, so had i known he was running through it yellow, i'd have stopped. by that time the cop had been following me for 2 miles already after catching me speeding on morrisville carpenter rd, so he just wanted to double whammy me and get a few marks on his quota for the month.

[Edited on August 3, 2007 at 9:33 AM. Reason : .]

[Edited on August 3, 2007 at 9:36 AM. Reason : .]

8/3/2007 9:32:02 AM

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"because it was my first ticket ever, and the DA would not tell me whether or not it would effect my insurance, and my insurance company wouldn't give me a straight answer."

when you don't know what to do concerning a legal matter, call an attorney

8/3/2007 9:38:21 AM

so actually you were speeding, ran a red light and was following too close.

8/3/2007 9:48:35 AM

I assume that since you know the cop was following you for 2 miles, you saw him, right? Most people would probably try to drive as carefully as possible in that scenario to avoid something like running a red light.

8/3/2007 9:51:25 AM

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" when you don't know what to do concerning a legal matter, call an attorneyjackleg "

8/3/2007 9:55:19 AM

a guilty plea of 9 over will still get you a point on your insurance

8/3/2007 10:13:11 AM

first of all, he told me i was doing 50 in a 35 on town hall drive, which is off of morrisville carpenter rd. i knew that it was almost two miles from there to the stoplight where he pulled me. hence the "he followed me for nearly two miles" comment.

secondly, it was an undercover dark red mustang cop, so i had no clue that he was even behind me.

thirdly, since when can you contact a lawyer and tell him the situation and have him actually TELL you what to do. that costs atleast $100, not to mention court costs. and the lawyers haggle you about letting them represent you...it's all bullshit.

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT - THERE ARE NOW COPS DRIVING MUSTANGS. those tricky bastards.

[Edited on August 3, 2007 at 10:17 AM. Reason : d]

8/3/2007 10:16:46 AM

i remember seeing cops in mustangs when i lived in the area....and that was 3 years ago.

8/3/2007 10:18:54 AM

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"THERE ARE NOW COPS DRIVING MUSTANGS"

[old]

8/3/2007 10:18:56 AM

yeah, now they're driving chargers.

8/3/2007 10:42:44 AM

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"thirdly, since when can you contact a lawyer and tell him the situation and have him actually TELL you what to do."

any half decent lawyer will give you free advice over the phone... or in person

8/3/2007 10:46:10 AM

i've never seen cops in mustangs before

i've seen durangos and camaros, and i think that's it

[Edited on August 3, 2007 at 11:41 AM. Reason : d]

8/3/2007 11:41:18 AM

depends on what city/state you're in

certainly crown vics are probably the most common but aside from impalas i've seen corvettes, mustangs, camaros, explorers

i guess some of that depends on if the particular police department has a contract with Chevy or Ford or other?

8/3/2007 11:42:18 AM

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"a guilty plea of 9 over will still get you a point on your insurance"

no--it is illegal for them to raise your insurance unless you have another violation

[Edited on August 3, 2007 at 1:00 PM. Reason : .]

8/3/2007 12:59:30 PM

^he speaks the truth.

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"so actually you were speeding, ran a red light and was following too close."

So glad you're on the road these days...

8/3/2007 1:09:59 PM

right

i've been driving ten years, and have a grand total of two speeding tickets and a stop light violation. now tell me - how am i a bad driver? everyone on this board is already a professional speeding ticket getter, because they've been yelling at me all day about my stupid decision 3yrs ago.

either that, or they're just talking out of their ass and they really don't know shit from personal experience.

8/3/2007 2:07:31 PM

i've had like 14 or 16 speeding tickets
cant remember

8/3/2007 2:24:04 PM

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"i've been driving ten years, and have a grand total of two speeding tickets and a stop light violation. now tell me - how am i a bad driver?"

Good justification. All that means is you haven't been caught. There are a lot of bad drivers that have been driving for ten years.

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"Yes, the fucker gave me two moving violations."

Wow, I can't believe he gave you a citation for the two things you were doing wrong. Thats so uncalled for.

8/3/2007 3:12:50 PM

so the cop waited 2 miles until you committed another moving violation to pull you over? i would think you could argue the speeding charge... He probably doesn't have you clocked on radar but felt that you were speeding so he waits until he has real evidence of another crime

[Edited on August 5, 2007 at 12:28 AM. Reason : ]

8/5/2007 12:16:18 AM

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"thirdly, since when can you contact a lawyer and tell him the situation and have him actually TELL you what to do. that costs atleast $100, not to mention court costs."

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"at the time i was a fulltime student"

here's another mistake you made. NCSU (and any other reputable university) has student legal services available for free.

8/5/2007 12:29:00 AM

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"not to mention the cop was committing entrapment waiting for you to break the law again. "

That is not entrapment.

8/5/2007 12:29:33 AM

God, you people are assholes.

8/5/2007 12:40:15 AM

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"PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT - THERE ARE NOW COPS DRIVING MUSTANGS. those tricky bastards."

Even in the Mustangs and Chargers, the lights are still obvious.

8/5/2007 2:49:27 AM

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"first of all, he told me i was doing 50 in a 35 on town hall drive, which is off of morrisville carpenter rd. i knew that it was almost two miles from there to the stoplight"

Hahahaha, you got caught speeding on fucking town hall drive. While I'll be first in line to agree with the fact that road should be 45 mph, you're still a fucking idiot to speed on that road.

For those unfamiliar with the road, Town Hall drive is named that because Morrisville has its townhall, police station and fire station on that road.

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: DON'T SPEED ON A ROAD WHERES THERES A POLICE STATION.

Which light did you run btw, Town Hall & McCrimmon?

[Edited on August 5, 2007 at 3:02 AM. Reason : a]

8/5/2007 3:02:03 AM

i've never even been on townhall drive before, and didn't notice the speed limit when i got there. as i was leaving, i was late back to work, so i didn't pay attention to my speed. and the fucker followed me down morrisville carpenter, and down chapel hill, all the way to chapel hill and weston, where my office is, and that's the stoplight that i "ran".

however, that stop light is in cary, not morrisville, and it's a morrisville cop. i am gonna see about getting the stoplight thing thrown out. he followed me out of his jurisdiction.

[Edited on August 5, 2007 at 11:33 AM. Reason : .]

8/5/2007 11:30:12 AM

lol, sure if you want the judge/da to make this face:

8/5/2007 11:50:50 AM

ha, i used to drive down town hall drive and see 3 people pulled over daily

8/5/2007 1:33:50 PM

you can use more than one PJC every three years...the data system at the courthouse is so fucked that they can't keep track of how many PJC's you've used

8/5/2007 3:05:17 PM

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"however, that stop light is in cary, not morrisville, and it's a morrisville cop. i am gonna see about getting the stoplight thing thrown out. he followed me out of his jurisdiction."

It's a stoplight in a mess of suburbs. It's not like Buford T. Justice is chasing you from Texarkana to Atlanta.

8/5/2007 4:10:06 PM

8/5/2007 5:40:29 PM

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"a guilty plea of 9 over will still get you a point on your insurance "

true. actually, i think it might be two.

HOWEVER, it's below the threshold of which they are legally allowed to charge you extra for (unless you get more insurance points for another ticket or something within 3 years, then you get hit with all of it).

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"i've been driving ten years, and have a grand total of two speeding tickets and a stop light violation. now tell me - how am i a bad driver? everyone on this board is already a professional speeding ticket getter, because they've been yelling at me all day about my stupid decision 3yrs ago"

because speeding has little or nothing to do with being a good driver.

I'm safer in my speeding Evo than you are in a Ford Taurus or whatever, even though I've had a number of speeding tickets, an illegal right on red, and have been pulled probably 50 times.

it's just that I don't really care if I get a speeding ticket--I just look at it as a fast driving tax, and I drive more or less how I want to...if the circumstances allow me to safely drive at a speed 15-20+ mph over the posted limit, then I do it.

although I do have the finest RADAR detector that money can buy...figured it would pay for itself pretty easily (it has).

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"why did i get it reduced and use my PJC? because it was my first ticket ever, and the DA would not tell me whether or not it would effect my insurance, and my insurance company wouldn't give me a straight answer. having absolutely no experience with speeding tickets and PJC's, the DA said i should use it if i was at all worried of an insurance increase. at the time i was a fulltime student and my father was paying my car insurance. if i'd had an insurance increase, then i would have been resonsible for paying the extra, so i wanted to avoid it. "

neither the cops nor the DA necessarily know jack shit about insurance regulations. Your insurance company probably would've given you a straight answer if you'd pressed them or framed the question correctly...if not, get a new insurance company. In the end, none of them are half as concerned with your best interests as you are, and shoulder none of the responsibility.

8/5/2007 5:48:05 PM

when I lived at the beach, I got pulled by a cop in a mustang, that was about 4 years ago.

8/5/2007 6:12:36 PM

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"he just wanted to double whammy me and get a few marks on his quota for the month."

they don't have quotas. also, have you considered that maybe the reason he didn't pull you for so long is he was letting you slide on the speeding until he saw you run the light?

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"a guilty plea of 9 over will still get you a point on your insurance"

it will get you one license point.

8/5/2007 6:18:58 PM

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"He probably doesn't have you clocked on radar but felt that you were speeding so he waits until he has real evidence of another crime"

well he doesn't have to lock you in to give you a ticket but more then likely he may have been lookin for a safe place to pull you over. Sometimes I get behind people but if its a busy road I will follow for a bit and pull them over in a safer location.

8/5/2007 8:06:07 PM

Just get a lawyer.

8/5/2007 8:06:52 PM

^^ What he said

Morrisville Carpenter is not the best place to pull people over.

8/5/2007 9:22:22 PM

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"it will get you one license point."

not your first, i still have zero points

8/5/2007 9:44:59 PM

someone at the court/dmv screwed up then (go figure).

8/5/2007 9:57:18 PM

well actually i may have points now, im not sure what the lawyer did with my 110 in a 65 but my insurance still didnt go up. still have my safe driver discount too.

8/5/2007 10:12:26 PM

110 in a 65

set em up

8/5/2007 10:33:25 PM