http://www.nypost.com/seven/07202007/news/columnists/nba_in_a_fix_columnists_murray_weiss.htm
7/20/2007 9:42:49 AM
I swear, the entire world of sports is crooked nowadaysI'd almost rather be oblivious to everything going on so I can enjoy a game without wondering how or why the most dominant player is as good as he is or why a team is getting more calls than the other
7/20/2007 9:59:37 AM
This thread has UNC bias written all over....It happens in the college ranks all the time so it doesn't surprise me about the NBA either really.
7/20/2007 10:04:32 AM
I’m surprised it took this long for something like this to come to the surface, with professional sports having become the megabusiness that it is
7/20/2007 10:05:28 AM
this sounds like some Sopranos-type shit. Someone is definitely getting whacked over this.
7/20/2007 10:42:39 AM
this could get really ugly for the NBA.. worse than Pete Rose IMO
7/20/2007 10:51:27 AM
Damn.
7/20/2007 11:02:30 AM
My guess: Bennett Salvatore.I remember this article from last year, and was thinking "Why not just always bet on the home team when this guy refs": http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060620
7/20/2007 12:30:22 PM
Great find....I knew Dallas should have won that game
7/20/2007 12:48:34 PM
yeah, that would be bigger than rose
7/20/2007 2:30:05 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2943095ESPN names the guy.
7/20/2007 3:05:15 PM
not to bring race into it, but THANK GOD its a white refbetween the thug image of the NBA being ran around and the whole Vick thing, Jesse Jackson can only do so much
7/20/2007 3:07:12 PM
Tim Donaghy
7/20/2007 3:28:31 PM
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7/20/2007 4:45:09 PM
i wouldnt be shocked at all if one of the games was Miami @ Charlotte this past year...that fucker was a ref and I swear Wade got more calls at the end of the game when Miami was already up 12 or something than even Wade normally would
7/20/2007 6:16:52 PM
Is this the guy who gave Duncan the tech for laughing?
7/20/2007 6:20:54 PM
no, that was some old dude. Duncan gives this guy $100 every now and then to NOT call techs.[Edited on July 20, 2007 at 6:27 PM. Reason : .]
7/20/2007 6:26:56 PM
That was Joey Crawford.[Edited on July 20, 2007 at 6:28 PM. Reason : ...]
7/20/2007 6:28:07 PM
This doesn't even phase me. I'd be surprised if he's the only NBA ref doing this.NBA referees are terribly inconsistent so its impossible to even tell when someone might be point shaving
7/20/2007 6:28:37 PM
7/23/2007 8:46:08 AM
Colin Cowherd said this morning on the radio that he would rat out the mob and not other referees (if they are also in on it). He said that the mob isn't as powerful and he'd just have to change his name and move to Omaha.I would totally rat out other NBAers who were guilty of this as opposed to the mob. Don't fuck with the Gambinos.
7/23/2007 11:08:45 AM
he just looks like he has a gambling problem]
7/23/2007 11:53:53 AM
Good stuff by Bill Simmons.http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070722
7/23/2007 12:02:58 PM
here's a "highlight" video of Game 3 btw the Spurs and Suns featuring your boy. http://youtube.com/watch?v=fvkKdXLwt0U
7/23/2007 2:39:53 PM
7/23/2007 2:45:31 PM
^^ The only questionable call was the first one that he made from half court when Manu was taking it to the rim. The ref at half should never make that call. All the other calls looked reasonable to me.
7/23/2007 2:51:22 PM
duncan didn't foul amare on that block??? Nash wasn't fouled on that "steal" by Bowen?? please understand basketball.
7/23/2007 2:52:32 PM
I thought they were both good no calls. Some times fouls could go either way. Just b/c it could have been called a foul and the ref doesn't call it doesn't mean the ref was throwing the game. Superstars get protected and get more calls. Home team gets more calls.The Duncan block he had his hand all over the ball. Yes there was contact but I thought it was a good no call.
7/23/2007 3:34:28 PM
He hit the hell out of Amare's shoulder and right arm.
7/23/2007 6:30:26 PM
^,^^,^^^
7/23/2007 7:01:29 PM
oh fuck...damn thats some shit
7/23/2007 7:02:55 PM
how much you wanna bet that if the nba will force youtube to pull that video (i assume sports telecasts are protected like music videos, tv shows, etc)?
7/23/2007 7:09:26 PM
I dont think this topic is getting enough love on twwAnyone hear the press conference this morning. Jesus, it just made me more skeptical. Everytime someone would ask Stern if he thought there were others involved he just kept making the point that this is what I know at this time. There has got to be more people involved and jesus I hope it's some fucking players. The NBA needs a bitch slap....
7/24/2007 1:54:45 PM
This really makes me mad now....I was pulling for the Suns big time this year.Tim Donaghy basically cost the Suns the NBA championship or at least the chance to play Cleveland and likely win the championship. If I am Amare/Nash/Marion and D'Antoni I am really hot right now.
7/24/2007 1:58:58 PM
These Phoenix fans are sounding like whiny little bitches.
7/24/2007 2:02:24 PM
Suns fans do have a right to complain, the officials potentially cost them a championship.Of course, we have no way of knowing that, no way of knowing what might have been between those teams, and between the victor and the Cavs...Everyone knows the Suns have been screwed, nobody with any sense is making any excuses for it, but there's nothing that can be done about it now, and complaining about it at this stage is still whining. Justified or not, whining is still whining.[Edited on July 24, 2007 at 2:15 PM. Reason : .]
7/24/2007 2:14:38 PM
The suns were screwed. I would venture to guess that others are involved and the outcome or point spread in many, many games has been altered
7/24/2007 2:21:14 PM
This did not cost the Suns any championship. Yes, there were some bad calls (and I remember poor officiating at both ends that game), but the Spurs would have beat the Suns again even if it took one more game, because they are the better team.
7/24/2007 2:24:52 PM
when are the Seahawks going to investigate SBXL
7/24/2007 2:59:44 PM
[Edited on July 24, 2007 at 3:07 PM. Reason : wtf I didn't type that]
7/24/2007 3:03:51 PM
7/24/2007 3:25:53 PM
if it came out that every single ref in the NFL was betting on their own games, the NBA would still get the worse rap
7/24/2007 3:37:39 PM
Any speculation as to how deep this goes? How many other refs involved? Players or coaches?
7/24/2007 5:04:12 PM
^^ NBA refs already had a bad reputation...NFL refs almost wind up reffing by committee.. just about every call is disgusted, so it seems like it would take a lot more for an nfl ref to affect a game than it would for an nba ref..
7/24/2007 5:10:36 PM
yeah i hear that i'm just saying for awhile its seemed like whatever the NBA does to try and correct its problems, and whatever NFL problems are exposed over and over again (hey i heard some player was recently fighting dogs)...the NBA always gets the worse rap
7/24/2007 5:12:59 PM
The NFL hasn't had a problem this bad. Even if they replaced opening game and overtime coinflips with dog fights, that wouldn't wreck the integrity of the game like this incident.[Edited on July 24, 2007 at 5:18 PM. Reason : d]
7/24/2007 5:17:59 PM
so the NFL is worth even more billions of dollars than the NBA but its never had anything like this? ok Mr. Naive
7/24/2007 5:19:03 PM
^nothing that has been released...What are you saying, the NFL is supposed to get a bad wrap too because it's popular?[Edited on July 24, 2007 at 5:24 PM. Reason : .]
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