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Nashattack
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I did search and all the other HDMI cable threads are older than 90 days when I tried to post in them. So....


I really don't know shit about HDMI cables except not to buy them at Best Buy because they are grossly overpriced. I'm looking at monoprice.com and which one should I get? 6 foot will probably work, but I could go 3 ft if the shorter cable is better. Whats the difference between HDMI and HDMI DVI?

I just bought a new LCD tv and wanna get one.

This cable: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024004&p_id=2412&seq=1&format=2

[Edited on July 8, 2007 at 5:22 PM. Reason : .]

7/8/2007 5:18:11 PM

The Dude
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i didn't get one that cheap but I bought a $12 6' cord on newegg

it works great from my hd cable box to my LCD

7/8/2007 5:38:34 PM

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hdmi dvi is a hdmi --> dvi adapter. dvi is a digital output on a lot of video cards these days. look up some pictures of the connectors and you'll see the difference.

7/8/2007 5:45:58 PM

evan
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shorter does not matter at all with hdmi or dvi.

the signal going through them is digital. you either get the signal at the other end, or you don't. they're not like analog (component, composite, etc.) cables.

7/8/2007 5:54:21 PM

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if you are near campus

the bookstore has great prices if you dont want to wait for shipping

7/8/2007 6:11:44 PM

joe17669
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I bought some of the super-cheap ones like that. I think I got 3 6-foot ones for $15 shipped, which is about the same price per cable that you listed. I've had no problem with them!

7/8/2007 6:14:23 PM

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^^^ actually, the signal is digital, but higher quality cables DO make a difference for longer cable runs

short cables from monoprice will hold up just as well to the super overpriced Monster cables for under 6' distances. At longer distances the quality cables are needed.

Pushing full 1080p bandwidth video over a cheap 50' HDMI cable will NOT work

i'm looking for the link now, so I can back up this info
link one: http://bluejeanscable.com/articles/hdmi-cables.htm

Here's the site reviewing Monster cables, and it shows for sure that shorter cables are more or less equal for HDMI, but for longer lengths quality matters
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/field-notes/the-truth-about-monster-cable-266616.php
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/hdmi-cable-battlemodo/the-truth-about-monster-cable-part-2-verdict-cheap-cables-keep-upusually-268788.php

[Edited on July 8, 2007 at 8:18 PM. Reason : more links]

7/8/2007 8:11:35 PM

bous
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i just bought a 15' from monoprice... will report back

7/8/2007 8:20:33 PM

Arab13
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sigh, should i get a mid - gauge or the smaller gauge with dual ferrite cores?

^^ btw

Quote :
" recently had the opportunity to test Monoprice HDMI cables with equipment
running at 1080p 60Hz with HDCP 148.5MHz The results were very positive.

Please note that success at 1080p depends on a lot of factors including quality
of TMDS transmitters, receivers, and anything you might have connected to the
cables like HDMI switches, repeaters, HDMI>DVD adapters, etc., therefore these
test results should be taken as a data point and not as a guarantee the cables
will be problem free @ 1080p with your specific equipment.

For example, during initial testing I had discovered through process of elimination
that one of the HDMI>DVI adapters I was using could not reliably pass 1080p. At
first I thought the cables were the issue, but after switching out the adapters, the
cables worked great.

Also please note, even though some of these cables are listed as only 1080i certified,
they did nevertheless pass 1080p without issues for the equipment combination I used.
See this post for what was tested at the factory:
http://www.avsforum.com/avsvb/show...4&&#post6953664

The process of listing a cable as passing visual inspection involved looking at black
screen for 30 seconds to detect sparkles, then watching video for 1 minute to detect
additional artifacts.

Sharp LC45GX6U is a 1920x1080 LCD display which accepts 1080p and 1080p/hdcp when
devices are connected directly to the panel, bypassing the external video processor.

Hope you find this information useful.

====

Test cables FC=FerriteCore N=Netjacket:
0 02029 HDMI>DVI FM converter

1 02526 HDMI MM 28AWG FC 3ft
2 02412 HDMI MM 28AWG FC 6ft
3 02504 HDMI MM 28AWG FC 10ft
4 02529 HDMI MM 28AWG FC 15ft

5 02283 HDMI MM 24AWG FC/N 3ft
6 02219 HDMI MM 24AWG FC/N 6ft
7 02281 HDMI MM 24AWG FC/N 10ft
8 02282 HDMI MM 24AWG FC/N 15ft

9 02109 HDMI MM 24AWG 25ft
10 02742 HDMI MM 24AWG 33ft actual 35ft
11 02110 HDMI MM 24AWG FC 50ft

12 02678 HDMI MM 22AWG 50ft

====

Scenario 1
Sharp AVC 1080p/HDCP == DVI>HDMI == Monoprice HDMI cable == HDMI>DVI == Sharp LC45GX6U Panel

all tests performed using 2 x HDMI>DVI adapter and listed HDMI cable
this test is for 1080p/HDCP only, not 720p, not 1080i, not 1080p/sansHDCP

1 3ft 28AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection
2 6ft 28AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection
3 10ft 28AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection
4 15ft 28AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection

5 3ft 24AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection
6 6ft 24AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection
7 10ft 24AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection
8 15ft 24AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection

9 25ft 24AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection
10 35ft 24AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection
11 50ft 24AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection

12 50ft 22AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection

====

Scenario 2
PNY Verto 6600GT 1080p == DVI>HDMI == Monoprice HDMI cable == HDMI>DVI == Sharp LC45GX6U Panel

all tests performed using 2 x HDMI>DVI adapter and listed HDMI cable
this test is for 1080p only, not 720p, not 1080i, not 1080p/hdcp

1 3ft 28AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection
2 6ft 28AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection
3 10ft 28AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection
4 15ft 28AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection

5 3ft 24AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection
6 6ft 24AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection
7 10ft 24AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection
8 15ft 24AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection

9 25ft 24AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection
10 35ft 24AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection
11 50ft 24AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection

12 50ft 22AWG no sparkle, passed visual picture inspection

Note:
nVidia driver 82.12
Testing using bottom DVI port"


[Edited on July 26, 2007 at 11:32 AM. Reason : d]

7/26/2007 11:27:16 AM

Wraith
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I'm looking to get a new TV in the next month or so. I've been researching around and stuff and a question I've come across is as follows. If I want to use the TV as a second monitor (the TV I'm getting will definitely be 1080p LCD of some sort, at least 40 inches) to watch movies from my computer and stuff, how much better quality will the picture be if I use an HDMI cable from my video card to the TV over just a regular VGA monitor cable?

7/26/2007 11:32:44 AM

Arab13
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significant

dvi-d = hdmi for all intents and purposes

VGA is limited by resolution and bandwidth

if you have the horsepower (video card) and a good TV (1080p 1:1 pixel mapping over HDMI) then use a DVI to HDMI cable

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023104&p_id=2505&seq=1&format=2&style=

is what you want, 15 feet FC and 28AWG (won't be so heavy to distort things physically...)

[Edited on July 26, 2007 at 12:00 PM. Reason : s]

7/26/2007 11:58:07 AM

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