espn has nc state ranked last in the league..what is up with that.

5/7/2007 3:17:03 PM

we have a brand new coach and are coming off a 3-9 season. that's what's up w/ that.

5/7/2007 3:19:47 PM

Even behind Duke or just last in our division? If it is just last in our division, then I can agree with that, but no way in hell should we be ranked behind Duke.

5/7/2007 3:23:37 PM

same deal in bball and that worked out pretty well

5/7/2007 3:25:29 PM

uhmmmmmm

we were coming off a 22-10 season in basketball, and this season we finnished 10 out of 12 in the acc.

it was a great season, what with beating unc at #3 and the acct run, but don't make it more than that.

(and for the record, i <3 sid lowe and hated sendek)

5/7/2007 3:28:10 PM

^ with what we lost, and the recruits that jumped ship; we did a fantastic job

5/7/2007 3:31:15 PM

yes, i agree completely, but we still were coming off a decent season (1 and outs in the ncaa ftw) and still ended up 10/12 in the league.

so to say 'well look at what happened in basketball' as a reason that we shouldn't be predicted poorly in football after coming off an awful season and getting a new coach is ridiculous.

5/7/2007 3:33:22 PM

I'd much rather be predicted to do shitty and have a decent season, then have high expectations only to see us hanging out near the bottom of the standings.

5/7/2007 3:53:59 PM

how bout a link

5/7/2007 3:55:13 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2862583

i don't know if thats the rankin hotwolf saw but theres the link that puts us at the bottom

5/7/2007 4:16:33 PM

Honestly, I don't think people know what to predict so its easier this way. Plus, I'm accustom to seeing us as an underdog and won't mind when O'Brien gives this list the bird.

There was no mention of any of our players or our team in the superlatives. That will change.

[Edited on May 7, 2007 at 4:19 PM. Reason : ...new season]

5/7/2007 4:18:50 PM

If I were an unbiased sportswriter I would probably put us last in our division, but 10th in the league with UNC and Duke behind us.

5/7/2007 4:19:31 PM

Quote :

"Valid arguments could be made that nine of the conference's 12 members have a legitimate shot at playing for the league title in Jacksonville on Dec. 1. Only Duke, North Carolina and North Carolina State are out of that mix."

lol

5/7/2007 4:21:50 PM

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"If I were an unbiased sportswriter I would probably put us last in our division, but 10th in the league with UNC and Duke behind us."

We haven't beaten UNC in like the last three meetings. I'm just saying. [/Stephen A. Smith]

5/7/2007 4:23:14 PM

Head to head matchups don't matter.

We've beaten Florida State twice in a row, and like 4 out of the last 6.

5/7/2007 4:27:25 PM

Clemson 5th in the division with Spiller and Davis coming back?

If that happens Bowden is gone.

5/7/2007 4:35:36 PM

^everything was set up for clemson last year and they blew it....they always seem to be a lock for middle of the pack.

5/7/2007 4:43:19 PM

well if we by some miracle of god go un-defeated and 2 more teams do too we won't make the championship game.












bahaahhaa

5/7/2007 4:49:00 PM

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"so to say 'well look at what happened in basketball' as a reason that we shouldn't be predicted poorly in football after coming off an awful season and getting a new coach is ridiculous."

no its not. your rediculous. our record with atsur was good. unless of course they predicted atsur would be out most of the season.

5/7/2007 5:08:25 PM

dammit

now everyone's going to use the "everyone thought we were going to be dead last..." excuse again when we win shitty games that we should win anyway

5/7/2007 10:31:39 PM

i thought i was the biggest self defeatist in america, until i met charlieefh, who will never be satisfied with anything. Someone needs a hug.

[Edited on May 7, 2007 at 10:42 PM. Reason : ]

5/7/2007 10:41:51 PM

can i get one too? gotta get while the gettins good, know what i mean?

5/7/2007 10:50:10 PM

For Clemson, it's all about the O-line. They graduated EVERYBODY on that line and will be starting fresh. Think of it kinda like our D-line in 2003. Add to that they replace their QB and their star WR, it's going to be rough. If Spiller or Davis had there 3 years, they probably would have left (Spiller tried to). They're both phenoms but you can't do it all yourself.

5/7/2007 10:53:31 PM

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"no its not. your rediculous. our record with atsur was good. unless of course they predicted atsur would be out most of the season."

5/7/2007 11:03:19 PM

Let's just finish 500 his first season and I will be okay with that...

5/8/2007 3:08:51 AM

lets just finish the season so we can get to basketball season

5/8/2007 8:11:35 AM

At least they have Carolina finishing last behind Duke in the rankings, too.

5/8/2007 8:25:39 AM

man, even i don't think unc will be worse than duke.

5/8/2007 9:00:33 AM

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"espn has nc state ranked last in the league..what is up with that."

we sucked ^Unc was worse than Duke last year and so were we. Duke got super unlucky in like 2-3 games they should have one. They definitely should have beaten Carolina last year.

[Edited on May 8, 2007 at 9:07 AM. Reason : .]

5/8/2007 9:04:47 AM

bitch, we beat bc and fsu

5/8/2007 9:19:53 AM

Well Im not surprised that we are ranked last in our division given how shitty we were last year and how surprising the usual last place team (Wake) was. I was a little surprised with how much negativity this guy directed at the "BIG 3 basketball schools" in the ACC, though I can certainly see where he comes from. Look at the bottom of the page and it explains it perfectly: FLA writers hating on the basketball powerhouses in NC, trying to act like we have nothing to do with football because we are basketball schools. The ACC schools in FLA cant get their basketball programs jump started no matter what they do, so they assign that same label to us in football....

Quote :

"Jorge Milian covers the ACC for The Palm Beach (Fla.) Post."

5/9/2007 12:37:12 PM

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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"Duke got super unlucky in like 2-3 games they should have one. They definitely should have beaten Carolina last year."

then we got super unlucky against wake maryland clemson uva and gt and should have won the conf last year

5/9/2007 12:43:14 PM

Duke got super unlucky in like 2-3 games they should have two.

5/9/2007 12:44:11 PM

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"well if we by some miracle of god go un-defeated and 2 more teams do too only lose one we won't make the championship game"

fixed it for you

5/9/2007 1:36:14 PM

i rather be the team to end the bcs than lose in a national championship game

5/9/2007 2:16:41 PM

Duke got super unlucky in like 2-3 games they should have three.

5/9/2007 2:42:31 PM

Duke NC State got super unlucky in like 2-3 games they should have three. ie. Wake, Clemson, Maryland.

5/9/2007 3:04:41 PM

there wasn't even a mention of our running back corps. I think we could probably run even with clemson on that one MAYBE even better.

5/9/2007 3:25:48 PM

NC State got super unlucky choked hardcore in like 2-3 games 5-6 games that were easily winnable if we had a decent shred of offensive consistency ie. Wake, Clemson, Maryland, UVA, UNC, ECU

5/9/2007 3:28:11 PM

^^we have one of the top RB corps in the nation. The rest of the team......that's another issue.

[Edited on May 9, 2007 at 3:30 PM. Reason : .]

5/9/2007 3:29:46 PM

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"bitch, we beat bc and fsu "

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

5/9/2007 5:43:07 PM

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"^^we have one of the top most underachieving RB corps in the nation."

[Edited on May 9, 2007 at 7:35 PM. Reason : I mean seriously, Andre and Toney Baker were WAY HYPED last year and they weren't that special.]

5/9/2007 7:34:52 PM

^agreed.......i heard rumors that brown might be on academic probation or something, which is why he didnt play much in the spring game? is this true?

5/9/2007 11:40:15 PM

Baker and Brown did not underachieve. When defenses know your QB is incapable of throwing a pass over 10 yards, its hard to run the ball.

5/10/2007 12:12:41 PM

^^ True according to the guy sitting in front of me at the spring game. He seemed like he knew what he was talking about. Said he's gotta get those grades up.

5/10/2007 1:24:25 PM

^^When are people gonna realize, it all comes back to O-Line. Name a team in the NFL or college that has been sucking it up and tell me they had a good O-line. Name a team that did really well and tell me they had a bad O-line.

5/10/2007 1:59:22 PM

^^^yeah, just ask Navy - can't run a lick without a passing game

5/10/2007 2:12:05 PM

^gg

5/11/2007 9:31:22 AM

Yes, OL is so very underrated because they arent the ones touching the ball.

Whereas Amato was a master at building top D- lines,
Red Tom is a master at building NFL caliber O- lines in college...

5/11/2007 11:44:10 AM

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