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EarthDogg
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Keep in mind as your licking the envelope on your tax return that members of Congress are winging away to the Carribbean on taxpayer funded "Business" trips.

http://www.examiner.com/a-675671~Congressional_junkets_picking_up_steam.html


Some other thoughts for this year's Tax Pay Day...


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"Debt and Taxes -- Ron Paul
Working Americans like lower taxes. So do I. Lower taxes benefit all of us, creating jobs and allowing us to make more decisions for ourselves about our lives.

Whether a tax cut reduces a single mother’s payroll taxes by $40 a month or allows a business owner to save thousands in capital gains taxes and hire more employees, that tax cut is a good thing. Lower taxes allow more spending, saving, and investing which helps the economy – that means all of us.

Real conservatives have always supported low taxes and low spending.

But today, too many politicians and lobbyists are spending America into ruin. We are nine trillion dollars in debt as a nation. Our mounting government debt endangers the financial future of our children and grandchildren. If we don’t cut spending now, higher taxes and economic disaster will be in their future – and yours.

In addition, the Federal Reserve, our central bank, fosters runaway debt by increasing the money supply – making each dollar in your pocket worth less. The Fed is a private bank run by unelected officials who are not required to be open or accountable to “we the people.”

Worse, our economy and our very independence as a nation is increasingly in the hands of foreign governments such as China and Saudi Arabia, because their central banks also finance our runaway spending.

We cannot continue to allow private banks, wasteful agencies, lobbyists, corporations on welfare, and governments collecting foreign aid to dictate the size of our ballooning budget. We need a new method to prioritize our spending. It’s called the Constitution of the United States.
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" Laurence M. Vance: I would like to show, in very simple terms, how individual income taxes could painlessly be eliminated: reduce federal spending to the level it was at the beginning of the previous administration.

The total revenue of the federal government during its most recently completely fiscal year was $2.406 trillion and that individual income taxes collected during this period were $1.043 trillion. This means that if you subtract the income taxes collected from total revenue you end up with $1.363 trillion for the federal government to spend. That is just a little less than the government spent during the fiscal year in which Clinton began his first term.

Are income taxes evil? Yes. Should they be eliminated? Yes. Would it be a terrible thing if the federal government still spent over $1 trillion? Yes. But it is a start. It is real tax reform. With no income tax, there will be no capital gains tax, no withholding tax, no EITC welfare program, and no refundable child credit welfare program — all without a NRST.

All of this, of course, depends on Congress. It is only because we have a monstrous welfare/warfare state that the government "needs" to collect an income tax. The beginning of Clinton's presidency was not that long ago. The income tax can be abolished. It can be done quickly; it can be done painlessly — and it can be done for the benefit of the American taxpayer instead of the federal leviathan. Now that is real tax reform."



"When men get in the habit of helping themselves to the property of others, they cannot easily be cured of it."
-- The New York Times, in a 1909 editorial opposing the very first income tax.

[Edited on April 16, 2007 at 11:44 AM. Reason : .]

4/16/2007 11:43:21 AM

TreeTwista10
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Key West...nice

4/16/2007 11:46:18 AM

pwrstrkdf250
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we need a change

4/16/2007 11:47:27 AM

TreeTwista10
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good luck with that change

i'll just be plinkin cans and waiting!

4/16/2007 11:48:40 AM

pwrstrkdf250
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haha no doubt


the change in this country won't come because the politicians wanted it

4/16/2007 11:53:20 AM

Scuba Steve
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So, we have spent nearly half a trillion dollars on an unneeded war with no forseeable end and all Ron Paul can think about is how to lower his taxes.

4/16/2007 11:53:45 AM

TreeTwista10
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THITH WAR ITH THO UNNEEDED! JETHUTH CHRITHT!

4/16/2007 11:55:16 AM

theDuke866
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^^ we've spent a ton on this war, but entitlement programs are still the #1 stunna by far.

4/16/2007 12:02:31 PM

super ben
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Rick Perlstein, senior fellow at the Campaign for America's Future was on Brian Lehrer on NPR a few minutes ago. He said that middle class Americans want to pay higher taxes to lessen the wage gap. I wanted to call and ask him if he actually knew any middle class Americans.

PS Ron Paul '08.

4/16/2007 12:08:41 PM

pwrstrkdf250
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hahaha, ummm no they don't


I can't believe someone would say that, but I guess it's the UNC school of truth... say something enough times and eventually it will be held as truth

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"So, we have spent nearly half a trillion dollars on an unneeded war with no forseeable end and all Ron Paul can think about is how to lower his taxes"


maybe you should look up Ron Paul and his idea about the war related to debt before you keep spouting off at the mouth

[Edited on April 16, 2007 at 12:14 PM. Reason : lol]

4/16/2007 12:13:03 PM

RevoltNow
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why would middle class americans need to pay higher taxes to lower the wage gap? the wage gap is going on amongst the top 10%...

4/16/2007 12:25:31 PM

eyedrb
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I agree with the article. The comment from 1909 is dead on and a scary foretelling of the mindset of people today.

There is an old qoute from a philosopher saying that a democracy was bound to fail once the citizens realized that they could vote to be paid right out of the treasury.

Now we have it, and its getting worse and worse.

4/16/2007 12:57:21 PM

RevoltNow
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and yet you are choosing to not vote for money for yourself.

either you are irrational, or rational people will not always choose that option.

4/16/2007 7:36:51 PM

Republican18
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the 2 dollar check i wrote to the state was the most retarded check i have ever written...........even more retarded than that donation i wrote to the special Olympics.


Hi-Oh you are correct sir

[Edited on April 16, 2007 at 8:34 PM. Reason : . ]

4/16/2007 8:34:29 PM

LoneSnark
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Hmm, he believes himself to be the "minority" in the quote, so voting in favor of less redistribution would return his money to him. Thus, he is voting money for himself. Thank you for playing.

4/16/2007 8:36:05 PM

eyedrb
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revolt, I simply as a worker would like to keep more of my money, you know, that I worked for. If that means they take less money from me, a worker, to give a nonworker...doesnt that seem fair?

4/16/2007 8:44:09 PM

Scuba Steve
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The idea of us giving all our money to people who don't work is in fact, a myth. I remember reading that we spend six times more on what could be considered corporate welfare than on social welfare.

[Edited on April 16, 2007 at 9:06 PM. Reason : .]

4/16/2007 9:05:39 PM

eyedrb
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a myth huh? I suppose they grow welfare checks on trees, and not from taxes.. huh, thanks.

Yeah, horrible thing helping businesses that actually EMPLOY people...shame on them too. They would obviously be better off sitting at home doing nothing collecting thier mythical money.

4/16/2007 9:10:17 PM

RevoltNow
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sigh.
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"# limits the provision of cash assistance to families with a dependent child or pregnant woman;
# imposes a [b60 month lifetime limit on the receipt of benefits;[/b]
# requires that a family's benefit be reduced if parents do not cooperate with child support officials;
# denies assistance to individuals convicted of a drug felony;
# denies assistance (for a period of 10 years) to any person convicted of fraud in the receipt of benefits in two or more states;
# denies assistance to teen parents not living in an adult-supervised setting; and
# denies assistance to non-citizens who arrived in the United States after 1996. "


Let's talk about corporate welfare. Which type of business do you think is better for our economy?

4/16/2007 11:30:46 PM

LoneSnark
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The ones that more effectively make use of society's resources with alternative uses. IE: those that don't friggin' need welfare!

If you want to maximize the well-being of society, tax all businesses equally and directly assist none. If the business is serving society then the free enterprise system will guarantee its survival.

4/17/2007 9:00:45 AM

pwrstrkdf250
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I drive all over the eastern part of the state for work

and after stopping in many po-dunk gas stations I've realized something


that poor welfare recipients still get taxed by the government... because their dumb asses buy lottery tickets by the handfull

[Edited on April 17, 2007 at 9:14 AM. Reason : idiots]

4/17/2007 9:13:49 AM

eyedrb
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^with YOUR money

4/17/2007 10:18:18 AM

ssjamind
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^^^ that's how i run my nationstates.net country

4/17/2007 11:40:38 AM

fatcatt316
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^ Jennifer Government is a jawesome book

4/17/2007 11:50:09 AM

pwrstrkdf250
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oh I know... it's still my money


but I'm jsut saying dumb poor people don't wanna be anything but dumb and poor

4/17/2007 11:53:46 AM

RevoltNow
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its true. everyone who is poor buys lotter tickets and deserves to be poor

4/18/2007 5:57:04 PM

eyedrb
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Id take some free lottery tickets.

4/18/2007 7:48:56 PM

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