Has anyone done this or know anyone who has done it? I have a friend who leaving in a few weeks for basic training and he says after that he will probably be deployed for a few years...is this true?

4/5/2007 3:00:31 AM

odds are he will be.

4/5/2007 3:01:02 AM

Why? I was reading another air force thread and people were saying air force only gets deployed for 4 months at a time. Why is pararescue that much longer?

4/5/2007 3:04:39 AM

because the PJs (pararescue) are some of the most elite service members of the AF. I do not think your friend will deploy anytime soon if he is going PJ. it take at least two years of training before they're operative.

4/5/2007 3:07:13 AM

Yeah, apparently I am not going to see him for four years. This makes me really sad. Is pararescue dangerous? All I know is they jump out of planes and stuff.

4/5/2007 3:12:23 AM

I can tell you their motto is "That others may live"--if that gives you any idea. It is considered an elite force.

[Edited on April 5, 2007 at 3:23 AM. Reason : .]

4/5/2007 3:16:20 AM

don't worry, his chances of making it through the pipeline are pretty damn slim.

4/5/2007 3:19:10 AM

What is the pipeline? Do you mean the training?

4/5/2007 3:26:15 AM

bad

ass

4/5/2007 3:38:31 AM

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/airforce/a/pararescue.htm


damn

4/5/2007 3:46:27 AM

tell him dnl said goodluck!

4/5/2007 3:47:07 AM

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"I can tell you their motto is "That others may live"--if that gives you any idea. It is considered an elite force"

uh isn't that the coast gaurd rescue swimmers moto? "So that others may live..."

4/5/2007 4:19:05 AM

^ No, the PJ motto is 'that others may live' and the CG rescue swimmer motto is 'So others may live' or something to that effect. Same meaning, slightly different wording.

4/5/2007 4:31:04 AM

"coast gaurd"

4/5/2007 4:33:46 AM

egg for me

4/5/2007 8:33:52 AM

I think like TLC or DSC ran a mini-series on them called like Rescue Warriors. Its looked fucking nuts.

4/5/2007 10:08:24 AM

If he is going pararescue you don't have to worry about his ass deploying anytime soon.

4/5/2007 10:11:45 AM

haha true...two years of training..
but thats two years i won't get to see my friend and two more years of deployment afterwards

4/5/2007 10:44:28 AM

There are plenty of other dudes ready to give you some dick. Don't sweat it.

4/5/2007 11:01:08 AM

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"I think like TLC or DSC ran a mini-series on them called like Rescue Warriors. Its looked fucking nuts."

I saw an episode of that once- the training is seriously crazy.

4/5/2007 11:06:48 AM

Understanding that your friend has not yet started basic training, worrying about pararescue deployments premature at this point. The training is very long and they have a very high attrition rate.

I hope that he succeeds, but I recommend that you take a wait and see approach to it.

4/5/2007 11:10:56 AM

10 bucks says he doesn't make it through pj training. but, i wish him all the best.

[Edited on April 5, 2007 at 9:54 PM. Reason : a]

4/5/2007 9:53:45 PM

"Hell night" as opposed to "Hell week" as a SEAL




ahhh, the good ol' Chair Force

4/5/2007 10:00:17 PM

if he makes it through, he will be stationed down in FL with me

and if he does, he's got balls of steel

4/5/2007 10:04:39 PM

El Sid
whats up man?

4/5/2007 10:33:53 PM

not much ken, enjoying life

^^don't knock it, i don't see you signing up for it

4/5/2007 10:40:37 PM

^ Thanks. I don't want to get into a discussion about who is more elite or has the hardest training, but I do know that PJ's are able to go on missions with every special forces unit including SEALs, Delta Force, Rangers, etc. Therefore they have to be able to physically do what everyone else can do

4/5/2007 10:43:57 PM

I didnt sign up for it because if I were in the military, I'd want to kill people with multimillion dollar machines of war



not save lives.

4/5/2007 10:55:34 PM

^yeah thats pretty much the opposite of what he wants to do

4/6/2007 4:52:12 AM

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"I don't want to get into a discussion about who is more elite or has the hardest training, but I do know that PJ's are able to go on missions with every special forces unit including SEALs, Delta Force, Rangers, etc."

And I cry once more

Hopefully by now he has found the message board that is run by a current PJ instructor down at Hulbert Field. He should read as much as possible on the pipeline.

You will still be able to see him during parts of his training. Its not like they train on the moon.

Best of luck to him if he really wants it.

[Edited on April 6, 2007 at 10:30 AM. Reason : .]

4/6/2007 10:29:34 AM

so three of us who started in fall 01. not too shabby.

interservice shit talking sessions get to be pretty fucking lame if you've done more than one. we all have our missions and each requires a completely different type of person.

4/6/2007 11:30:56 AM

Air force pj's get extensive medical training in addition to most other forms SF training. Then they are attached to other SF units. They tend to pretty much go from one mission to the other as there are far too few of them.

Godspeed to him - AF Spec. Forces have a saying "With your Shield or on it" - all my best

4/13/2007 6:19:54 PM

Air force pj's get extensive medical training in addition to most other forms SF training. Then they are attached to other SF units. They tend to pretty much go from one mission to the other as there are far too few of them.

Godspeed to him - AF Spec. Forces have a saying "With your Shield or on it" - all my best

4/13/2007 6:21:31 PM

Air force pj's get extensive medical training in addition to most other forms SF training. Then they are attached to other SF units. They tend to pretty much go from one mission to the other as there are far too few of them.

Godspeed to him - AF Spec. Forces have a saying "With your Shield or on it" - all my best

4/13/2007 6:33:15 PM

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"With your Shield or on it"

I think they said that in 300...

4/13/2007 7:33:41 PM

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"Then they are attached to other SF units. "

No sir, they are not attached to the SF. They are part of STT which fall under STS which fall under AFSOC.

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"AF Spec. Forces"

Doesn't exist.

Sorry to be a dick but wrong information can cause confusion.

4/13/2007 8:41:30 PM

^ no idea what any of that means...

4/13/2007 9:31:53 PM

The AF PJ's are NOT attached to other units - you won't see them doing "Snatch n Grabs" with the Army SF guys in Iraq for example, and you probably won't see them taking down terrorist like Delta or painting targets during Shock and Awe in Baghdad.

There is no Air Force Special Forces. Yeah, compared to the rest of the AF they're pretty highspeed, but after reading that little article about their training I'd still have to say they can't stack up to the other guys in SOC (Special Operations Command). Each group has its own mission, I just can't figure out what PJ's is. And I'm too lazy to look it up

4/13/2007 10:10:56 PM

they rescue people....

4/13/2007 10:18:09 PM

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"Is pararescue dangerous?"

[yes]


On another note... I trained with Coast Guard rescue swimmers... those guys are baddass.

4/13/2007 10:19:17 PM

^yes it's dangerous but not because you're paid to shoot people and get shot at

my roommate in college was navy EOD - also pretty hardcore - like SEALS jr

4/13/2007 10:21:14 PM

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"There is no Air Force Special Forces. Yeah, compared to the rest of the AF they're pretty highspeed, but after reading that little article about their training I'd still have to say they can't stack up to the other guys in SOC (Special Operations Command). Each group has its own mission, I just can't figure out what PJ's is. And I'm too lazy to look it up"

They can stack up, don't worry. They aren't "operators" but against most people assigned to SOC they will hold their own.

4/14/2007 12:39:59 AM

about the best AF has to offer is combat controllers

4/14/2007 12:48:46 AM

OMFG HELL WEEK DAY!!!

^^Against Beardawg61's Coast Guard swimmers maybe

C'mon, the AF used to take their PT test on a STATIONARY BIKE!!!

[Edited on April 14, 2007 at 1:20 AM. Reason : .]

4/14/2007 1:19:12 AM

did you hear about the new requirement for coasties?

they have to be at least six feet tall so they can walk to shore in case the ship sinks

[Edited on April 14, 2007 at 1:28 AM. Reason : .]

4/14/2007 1:27:34 AM

Haha too bad I'm only 5'6"

What about the seamen?

4/14/2007 1:29:19 AM

^^ whoops, i said ship

i meant boat

4/14/2007 1:41:10 AM

Any body that said AF has n0 Special Forces hasn't been through some their training. And yes you will see PJ's on snatch and grabs etc. Generally they retrieved downed or injured airman - that was their mandate. Since that time and the advent of JSOC (joint special operations command) their mission has changed. Their were 2 PJ's with Delta in Mogidishu as well as an Air Force Combat Controller (another little known AF SF position) - He was a friend of mine. Delta in fact is made up of SF Operators from all branches. People that haven't been there shouldn't talk about that with which they are unfamiliar. (with your shield or on it) was translated from something Spartan mothers used to say to their sons as they went in to battle. If one was likely to run he would probably drop his shield first. If injured or killed he would be carried on it like a stretcher and if he returned victorious he would be carrying it so yes they may have used the line in 300. In 1989 another special forces unit within the Air Force Security Police (at that time) was formed and nicknamed "Ready Merlin" . Their mission was and probably still is classified. As yo your friend "10 to 1 not making the thing about these schools is their mistique. They are designed so that a reasonably athletic person with HIGH committment level can get through it - the key lies in the level of desire.

4/14/2007 11:57:32 AM

6x^

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"about the best AF has to offer is combat controllers"

little known.

4/14/2007 12:10:11 PM

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"C'mon, the AF used to take their PT test on a STATIONARY BIKE!!!"

The physical standards from indoc are nothing to laugh at. They are very similar to the other branches special ops. While they do have A hell day, they also have motivation week. Its about two days shorter than hell week. Who do you think is sent after the SEALS???

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" Any body that said AF has n0 Special Forces hasn't been through some their training. And yes you will see PJ's on snatch and grabs etc. Generally they retrieved downed or injured airman - that was their mandate. Since that time and the advent of JSOC (joint special operations command) their mission has changed. Their were 2 PJ's with Delta in Mogidishu as well as an Air Force Combat Controller (another little known AF SF position) - He was a friend of mine. Delta in fact is made up of SF Operators from all branches. People that haven't been there shouldn't talk about that with which they are unfamiliar. "

There is so much wrong in that one paragraph I don't even know where to begin, but I will try my best . The air force DOES NOT HAVE SPECIAL FORCES. Special forces is a job only found in the army. The Air force has special tactics which are part of the special operations community hence JSOC. They are not attached to any army unit. Being attached to army SO normally refers to a support position. They provide tactical and nontactical rescue, you might have remembered them going after the lost climbers awhile back. Delta is NOT made up of various branches, they are all army. They have members that have been in other branches but if they are Delta they are army. Again, SF operators are only in the army so I think your statement is sorta correct but it was dumb luck Although Delta isn't comprised of only prior SF and the term "operator" is not normally used when talking about SF. Unless you have done 40 in virginia you aren't an operator for many within the community. The navy has something similar to Delta that pulls from NSW but it is still pretty much under the radar.

4/14/2007 1:35:11 PM