We should do something for his family.

3/26/2007 12:56:36 PM

the other thread just got deleted, we don't really need another one.

3/26/2007 12:57:10 PM

Death is important, it keeps the rest of us from taking life for granted. TreeTwista10 is expressing a uniquely human reaction, mocking those who attempt to make their personal moral code of decency the standard of his community. There is nothing "animal" about expressing your feeling just because it differs from what others want you to feel. If a thread had been made about a UNC student who dresses up like a ram while he was alive, most people here would have hated on the guy just like TreeTwista10. Now that he's dead, it's like he was never a UNC fan. The young man probably would have preferred the opposite. Respect when he was alive, disrespect when he no longer exists. There's no need to lock (and DELETE) a thread to protect an obviously false image.

Most of the posters here had never heard of this guy before he was hit by a car. Even at his young age, he probably (again, I don't know him) lived all his life in the USA, and got to attend college. If that is the case, he likely had a better life than most people of the world who live 40 years longer. I personally don't care at all that this guy died, just like I don't care that any particular one of the several children overseas who have starved to death since then died. But I do care about having a place where threads don't get locked (and DELETED) because of conflicting point of views.

I was attempting to post this in the original thread, only to find the thread locked AND deleted. I would understand if the thread was moved to chit chat, it was never really about sports. But now a lot of people aren't going to know what this is about.

3/26/2007 12:58:10 PM

is this official?

that sucks.

3/26/2007 1:00:16 PM

well then bump the chit chat thread thats already at 2+ pages and leave this one.



^yeah its official, i just received word from close friends that were there with him

[Edited on March 26, 2007 at 1:01 PM. Reason : add]

3/26/2007 1:00:24 PM

Quote :

"the other thread just got deleted, we don't really need another one. "

TWW should do something like send a card or flowers....

3/26/2007 1:01:37 PM

link

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/ncaatourney07/news/story?id=2813005

3/26/2007 1:02:00 PM

why did the other thread get deleted? i wasn't reading it

3/26/2007 1:02:18 PM

no real reason. well there were some posters linking pictures of dead rams, but the last 10-12 posts had been civilized so..

3/26/2007 1:03:12 PM

Our prayers are with Jason Ray's family

3/26/2007 1:04:02 PM

wow, this is awful

3/26/2007 1:05:38 PM

Quote :

"TreeTwista10 is expressing a uniquely human reaction, mocking those who attempt to make their personal moral code of decency the standard of his community."

When their idiocy projects negatively onto others and myself (in the case of the racist remarks) I think that is the point that I feel justified in calling it what it is.. that is a lack of human decency.

For what it's worth, I have never in the past and will never in the future complain to a moderator about a thread on this site, no matter it's content, in case that is what some of you are thinking

[Edited on March 26, 2007 at 1:16 PM. Reason : VV ah, ok.. gotcha..]

3/26/2007 1:09:57 PM

May he rest in peace...

3/26/2007 1:14:50 PM

^^I wasn't talking about you, you were just expressing you opinion and I respect that. I forget who it was that suggested the thread should be locked, I think his username started with a K. But it was really intended to be a plea with moderators not to lock these threads

[Edited on March 26, 2007 at 1:16 PM. Reason : e]

3/26/2007 1:16:19 PM

let this thread be about the deceased not about another thread, please.

3/26/2007 1:17:22 PM

I hate Carolina as any good Pack fan should, but this really sucks

dude didn't deserve to die at such a young age. I'm gonna call my mom and tell her I love her and I'm damn sure going to look both ways before I walk across the highway right beside an exit ramp

3/26/2007 1:17:32 PM

3/26/2007 1:21:25 PM

i like how i tried to make it abundantly clear that i wished him a recovery and only made fun of him for either going to UNC or being gay...while other people in the thread literally seemed to express joy in his situation...yet the lack of reading comprehension means i'm the bad guy

maybe state is a bunch of idiots...cause they sure cant read for shit

3/26/2007 1:23:27 PM

No one can read it now because the thread is gone

Sorry if I misrepresented you TreeTwista

3/26/2007 1:27:57 PM

i feel bad for his best friends. We all went to the same high school, but my group of 5-6 buddies were a little more deviant. But like us, Jason and his buds were inseperable with almost all of them going to chapel hill. Hell they even formed a band back in junior year and somehow stayed together with Jason being the lead vocals. Its just a sad day, our area in Concord is a pretty tight community so its gonna be sad there for a while

3/26/2007 1:28:06 PM

The over-riding theme in all of this (this incident, just like the Lawson dunk in the ACC tourney) is knowing where the line is drawn.

We all hate UNC. Great. There is nothing wrong with that. It's gone too far when you cross the line and mock someone who has just passed away or relate a basketball game to lynching, killing, or other racist comments. The problem here isnt moderation, it's a little fucking self control.

This goes far beyond blue or red. Have a little decency and respect when situations like these arise.

3/26/2007 1:31:24 PM

BTTT

3/26/2007 1:42:23 PM

This thread better stay civil. Some of you out there making light of this are pathetic pieces of shit.

3/26/2007 1:48:32 PM

I agree

3/26/2007 1:49:08 PM

any word on a card or flowers from all of us? If not, I'm thinking about sending some flowers (from NCSU or TWW) on them....anybody got any ideas?

3/26/2007 1:51:12 PM

from ncsu that wood be a good idea

3/26/2007 1:52:35 PM

i jumped on the IC board and someone there was talking about setting up a scholarship fund

others mentioned/hoped the teams will wear a patch next season in his memory

3/26/2007 1:52:51 PM

from ncsu that wood be a good idea

3/26/2007 1:53:47 PM

I would not invlove TWW in any way shape or form.

just my opinion.

From NC State would be a good idea.

3/26/2007 1:58:00 PM

never mind, when was that

[Edited on March 26, 2007 at 2:04 PM. Reason : ]

[Edited on March 26, 2007 at 2:05 PM. Reason : it probably wasn't him in that]

3/26/2007 2:04:38 PM

yeah thats what i was thinking cause i made that years ago

still though...

3/26/2007 2:06:34 PM

im reely glad you expressed your opinion

3/26/2007 2:10:59 PM

Quote :

"it probably wasn't him in that"

Agreed, I saw him in Tampa in a prep room and he was a pretty tall, big dude. Given how Mr. Wuf is so much bigger in that picture I doubt it was him.

[Edited on March 26, 2007 at 2:13 PM. Reason : ]

3/26/2007 2:13:13 PM

^ hahahaha what a fucking idiot


like the suit wouldnt be the same size no matter what hahaha

3/26/2007 2:15:17 PM

here is a more personal article compared to the ESPN one.

http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=78&p=2&c=630007

3/26/2007 2:17:10 PM

^^ Actually it can make a difference especially with regards to height and body frame, I've seen multiple Mr.Wufs in and out of costume over the years and yes you can tell the difference.

But back on the main topic, I feel bad for his family, what a horrible and unexpected way to go.

[Edited on March 26, 2007 at 2:33 PM. Reason : ]

3/26/2007 2:25:15 PM

Sorry for the death. Send card fron NCSU...but def not TWW...


III

3/26/2007 2:38:08 PM

done

3/26/2007 2:40:09 PM

how/where do you send something?

BASICALLY the address

[Edited on March 26, 2007 at 3:30 PM. Reason : before someone says, "you dont know how to send a letter"]

3/26/2007 3:29:59 PM

i'm sure i'll be seeing his parents over easter. it was sad getting the news. the guys all said their goodbyes to him late last night before driving back to the triangle and his parents had his organs tested to see if they could be donated. once the results came back they decided to remove life support. he made it through early morning before finally passing on at 8:38.


Rest in Peace Jason. JMRHS '03

3/26/2007 3:31:17 PM

3/26/2007 3:32:29 PM

Instead of flowers, the parents of Jason Ray are asking people to contribute to the Jason Kendall Ray Memorial Fund. Please send donations to Concord Christian Church, 3101 Davidson Highway, Concord, NC 28027. For any questions please pm

3/26/2007 3:34:35 PM

Rest in Peace

3/26/2007 3:49:23 PM

eh don't provoke. lets just keep this thread civil as much as possible

3/26/2007 3:49:42 PM

damn...

[Edited on March 26, 2007 at 3:52 PM. Reason : jank]

3/26/2007 3:50:11 PM

man that sucks prayers go out to his family and friends

3/26/2007 4:01:20 PM

He brought alot of joy to alot of people through his work with UNC. Damn shame it ended like this.

Prayer to his family.

3/26/2007 4:03:47 PM

I still have a few questions about this.... maybe they've been covered by one of the 39,000 articles.

1) Was there any hint of speeding when this occured? Was it dark?
2) What the hell was he doing on a highway shoulder? I mean are we talking major highway...? Is this common in New Jersey?

I read that the car was trying to take an exit ramp. Exit ramp = no pedestrians in my book...that sounds like an interstate, not a simple right turn.

Anywho.... this is absolutely horrible. NC State fan, UNC fan, mascot or no mascot, it just sucks. This kid had his whole life ahead of him and I hate it for everyone involved. Makes you realize how lucky we all are

3/26/2007 5:16:22 PM

BTW Turnip, it was me who suggested I lock the thread. I still stand by that...it was getting vile.

There were suggestions of cock sucking, pictures of dead rams, and people spewing crap while news reports had this guy dying. There was no purpose to the post...and this site is freaking private so don't go invoking the 1st on me and everything. Mods have the right to ban,lock,kill posts that have nothing to do with anything - god knows mocking someone in the relevant local sports community who has now died to that level. I didn't tell mods what to do...they don't care what I say, I just thought it should have been nuked.

This isn't about expressing opinions, this is just about maintaining even a shred of decency. Granted, I can't get that in chit chat but that's why I stay in sports talk and entertainment channels. Chit chat is a den of internet annonymous bullshit, anonymous bait and flame, shock factor, sex drives gone wild, nerdism, and gossipy crap. It sucks basically. Seeing it creep over to sports talk sucks in turn.

Sure Sports Talk does humorous shit and post funny pictures making light of situations but again, not in situations that are serious, and not to this level where it's actually objectively abhorrent. Objective meaning coming from a socialized human. I just assumed that it should be locked to keep channels relevant (not to fucking mention decent).

[Edited on March 26, 2007 at 5:21 PM. Reason : smells like philosophy graduates in here.]

3/26/2007 5:20:18 PM

Quote :

"We should do something for his family."

Let's put a bunch of state swag on his grave. Wait, I don't care that much.

3/26/2007 5:54:02 PM