They don't sell those ones with ephedra anymore, but is pseudo-ephedra any better? What are the best ones in your opinion when used with diet and exercise or whatever the label recommends? What is the difference between diet pills and those energy pills like yellowjackets? Thanks...doing some research!

2/21/2007 3:30:55 PM

i hear exercise and diet work pretty well to lose weight

2/21/2007 3:32:03 PM

http://brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=462610

2/21/2007 3:34:59 PM

I said with!! But they have all these things out that claim to enhance fat burning in the body, etc. I'm not talking about the late-night TV infomercials, but the stuff they sell at GNC!

2/21/2007 3:35:09 PM

Oh, don't be a lush....can't a kid do some marketing claim vs. product effectiveness without it getting linked to another thread....

2/21/2007 3:37:21 PM

infomercial shit = gnc

seriously, if you eat well and exercise and still aren't losing weight. talk to your doctor. there is no magic pill.

please take some nutrition classes while you're at state. it's worth it and the class isn't that difficult.

[Edited on February 21, 2007 at 3:40 PM. Reason : ]

2/21/2007 3:39:10 PM

that lipo 6 is some crazy shit

2/21/2007 3:39:47 PM

Energy pills = Caffeine + B Vitamins + a couple aminos
Diet Pills = Caffeine + Random Herbs

If you wanted to take a diet pill, I'd just by bottles of the following
CLA
Fish Oil
Caffeine Pills
Protein Powder

2/21/2007 3:40:28 PM

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"Oh, don't be a lush..."

That word doesn't mean what you think it means.

2/21/2007 3:44:45 PM

From Dictionary.com...
lush–(noun):
1. drunkard; alcoholic; sot.
2. intoxicating liquor.
–verb (used without object) 3. to drink liquor.
–verb (used with object) 4. to drink (liquor).
(i.e. obnoxious)

--Why would you want straight caffeine pills? Just to give more energy, or do they actually serve a purpose?

2/21/2007 3:53:08 PM

look, you're just digging the hole deeper. you should shut up now.

2/21/2007 3:57:40 PM

caffeine is an upper, which has a side effect of appetite suppression.

Ephedra is a more potent upper

ritalin will also have a similar effect as ephedra, but it's "safe"

2/21/2007 3:57:55 PM

right, okay...thanks...

2/21/2007 4:05:14 PM

just do some meth and be done with it

2/21/2007 4:08:02 PM

haha...yeah, or that...

2/21/2007 4:08:33 PM

Take loads of Vaspro

2/21/2007 4:44:33 PM

or exlax

2/21/2007 5:03:47 PM

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"just do some meth and be done with it"

i could have sworn this was in the lounge

take it chit chat, gunzz

2/21/2007 5:09:54 PM

lol...how well did ephedrine actually work? I hear some much about it.

2/21/2007 5:29:18 PM

I think it was the uber bad side effects that made them stop it. Heart attacks and stuff...

2/21/2007 6:00:18 PM

by uber bad side effects you mean they could make crystal meth

2/21/2007 6:00:49 PM

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"there is no magic pill"

true, but there are plenty of things that you could take that would enhance your workouts (ie: let you go longer with more intensity)

and don't say bullshit until you try it- go to the gym for a week without taking anything

then go for a week taking ephedrine before every trip- guaranteed you will feel the difference. The shit worked, it just got banned because people were abusing it (using that logic, they should ban caffiene too)

2/21/2007 6:58:09 PM

that too, but then again if that were the only reason we wouldn't have liquid plumber or batteries on the market either

2/21/2007 6:58:36 PM

i think it was stupid to take it off the market- it just happened because it was a supplement and not a drug, and there were several big lawsuits

most of those "late night" things you see get in trouble all the time, but they make so much money, they can just pay it off (even if it is a 25 million dollar fine), and change one little thing about their marketing or formula and do it all over again

but ephedra, if used correctly, is perfectly safe and very effective

2/21/2007 7:19:18 PM

Along with Fish Oil, Green Tea is also good for weight loss.

2/21/2007 8:39:06 PM

^^ yeah, i used ephedra for years and had no problems. It was my substitute for sleep when i was a fulltime student, partying hard, and running a business.

the people that would get heart attacks already had poor cardiovascular health, just like the people that died after taking vioxx.

people who were generally healthy had no issues.

2/21/2007 8:57:23 PM

That Hoodia crap is supposed to be really good but you wanna make sure it is 100% pure and the pill has at least 400mg of Hoodia in it. It isn't that cheap and it is supposedly better than ephedra with no side effects because it is natural. It is a plant that grows in South Africa and they have regulated the export of it kinda like their diamonds so that they get all the profits from the Hoodia plant.

2/22/2007 2:35:23 AM

Supposedly better than ephedra because it is natural?

Where do you think ephedra came from?

2/22/2007 2:43:32 AM

i read this as dick pills i was like wtf

2/22/2007 3:00:48 AM

Pseudo-ephedra won't work because you need the e-c-a stack's balance. I forget the ratio, but you can make your own with the ephedrine extract pills, some caffiene and a baby aspirin. Do NOT take them, or any diet pill, before working out. Your best bet is to work out in the morning, then take you pills and ride out the day. Also, don't take them after maybe 5 pm or you'll be up all night.

Real hoodia DOES work - African tribesmen have been using it for century to cure their hunger when they go on long hunting trips. However, it's hard to find the right dosage that will actually work since most companies only have to put a little in to say it's a Hoodia pill.

Taking a pill alone isn't going to do anything. If you don't change how you eat and work out, it's pointless. But seriously, no one should be bashing her for asking, ESPECIALLY guys. What do you think all your little GNC supplements, creatine and protein powders have in them?

Hypocrites.

Let the girl get some pills, she kinda needs them.

2/22/2007 7:47:40 AM

yeah she needs pills alright

2/22/2007 8:50:42 AM

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"Do NOT take them, or any diet pill, before working out"

Whats you're reasoning behind that, because most diet pills/stimulants suggest taking it 30 min before working out.

2/22/2007 11:05:34 AM

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"talk to your doctor"

And a professional who specializes in nutrition and weight loss. Doing research on your own is fine upfront, but if you want the best results, pay for the services so you know best options available.

2/22/2007 12:36:28 PM