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Crazywade
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to respect Islamic Law. What a load of crap

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,248597,00.html

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"Toilets in one London prison are getting a face-lift — or rather, a change in direction — to accommodate Muslim inmates who can't use them while facing Mecca, a British newspaper reported.

Government officials ackowledged using tax dollars for the changes to the facilities, but maintained that moving the toilets was part of "on-going refurbishment," according to an article in The Sun.

Click here to read the original report.

Islamic code prohibits Muslims from facing or turning their backs on the direction of prayer when they use the bathroom. Muslim prisoners complained of having to sit sideways on toilets so as to not break code.

Faith leaders in the government pressured officials to approve turning the toilets 90 degrees at HMP Brixton in London.

A Muslim American rights worker commended the London prison system for their actions, but said the problem, so far, doesn't appear to be an issue in the U.S.

"There have been very significant and numerous complaints at U.S. prisons on issues of regulating hygiene and respect for dietary laws," said Ibrahim Ramey, director of human and civil rights work for Muslim America Society. However, Ramey said he was unaware of any specific complaints regarding the direction of toilets in U.S. prisons.

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[Edited on January 30, 2007 at 2:28 PM. Reason : .]

1/30/2007 2:27:24 PM

Crazywade
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Respect islamic law my ass.

1/30/2007 2:28:45 PM

bgmims
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Man Islamic Law is stupid sometimes most of the time

Don't double post asswipe


[Edited on January 30, 2007 at 2:34 PM. Reason : ty]

1/30/2007 2:29:10 PM

Crazywade
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^try again....good job

[Edited on January 30, 2007 at 2:40 PM. Reason : .]

1/30/2007 2:30:23 PM

Locke
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I still wonder how people overlooked the fact that as a prisoner you don't have any rights of a citizen anymore, save basic human rights.

1/30/2007 3:04:03 PM

nutsmackr
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the freedom to worship your religion or your god is a basic human right.

1/30/2007 3:06:12 PM

TreeTwista10
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isnt it some kind of blasphemy to take a shit while you are praying?

1/30/2007 3:10:36 PM

nutsmackr
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i've done that before, but it is always a prayer, of Why the fuck did I drink all that liquor last night.

1/30/2007 3:15:57 PM

TreeTwista10
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it just seems that these prisoners have some type of bowel problems or something

let me see if i understand the situation...as a Muslim, you pray 5 times every day facing Mecca, correct? Ok, how long do each of the prayers take? I don't know so I'm asking...5-10 minutes a piece? Can they really not hold their piss or shit for that long? Nope...just let the taxpayers pay for criminals to renovate their bathrooms

1/30/2007 3:19:07 PM

Crazywade
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"the freedom to worship your religion or your god is a basic human right."


which can be done whether you're shitting towards the east or any other direction. This is a waste of time and money for the UK. I feel sorry for the taxpayers

1/30/2007 3:21:58 PM

BridgetSPK
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^^You're missing it.

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"Islamic code prohibits Muslims from facing or turning their backs on the direction of prayer when they use the bathroom."


They cannot turn their back or face the direction of prayer when they use the restroom, whether they're praying or not.

1/30/2007 3:27:09 PM

quiet guy
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Could they just shit sideways on the toilet?

1/30/2007 3:28:02 PM

Crazywade
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The UK should respect islamic code as I would respect the constitution of Venezuela....or lack there of..

These self proclaimed "muslims" in the nice, posh Western prisons are doing this as a show. They are like 5 year olds riding their bikes when a visitor comes to the house "Hey, look at me!"



[Edited on January 30, 2007 at 3:32 PM. Reason : .]

1/30/2007 3:30:39 PM

BridgetSPK
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^^That's what they're complaining about.

You'd think shitting sideways would be a great way to show extra devotion to God, but whatever...

1/30/2007 3:35:56 PM

TreeTwista10
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^^^^ah ok...that makes sense

well it makes sense from the perspective of why they would want the toilets rearranged

makes zero sense from the perspective of a good reason to use tax dollars to renovate criminals' bathrooms

does Islamic Law not forbid them from committing a crime and being sent to prison?

[Edited on January 30, 2007 at 3:36 PM. Reason : .]

1/30/2007 3:36:12 PM

EarthDogg
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I wonder what direction Nick Berg was facing when they cut his head off?

1/30/2007 3:44:35 PM

Boone
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"but maintained that moving the toilets was part of "on-going refurbishment,""


If it's true that they were moving the toilets anyways, I don't see why they shouldn't arrange them in a way that would respect the inmates' religion.

If extra money was spent to go out of their way to do it, then nvm.

1/30/2007 3:48:14 PM

Crazywade
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And all this time I thought prison was supposed to be punishment...

1/30/2007 3:57:12 PM

nutsmackr
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^^^What the hell does that have to do with anything?

1/30/2007 3:57:58 PM

TreeTwista10
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^i think it has to do with how hypocritical islamic law is perhaps?

"dont face that way when you pee...but please, decapitate people who arent muslim fundamentalists like yourself"

1/30/2007 4:55:58 PM

bgmims
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"the freedom to worship your religion or your god is a basic human right."


What if my religion requires me to not be held in prison? And also to steal little girls underpants?

I mean, why won't they accommodate me? Sure, I appeal to the absurd here, but the point remains that as a prisoner you are free to worship whatever God you choose, but there are certain things that won't be adjusted for you. If you don't like it, don't go to prison.

1/30/2007 5:09:28 PM

BobbyDigital
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"the freedom to worship your religion or your god is a basic human right."


and nobody's preventing them from shitting sideways.

prison is not about comfort.

1/30/2007 5:12:16 PM

joe_schmoe
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praying to Mecca while taking a dump should be considered a good idea.

Mohammad (pbuh), if anything, was a big fan of multitasking.

1/30/2007 6:38:27 PM

NCSUDiver
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If they are in a windowless building how do they know which way Mecca is anyway? Are they allowed to have a compass with them at all times so they know they are facing the right direction?

1/30/2007 7:32:41 PM

McDanger
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This is dumb as hell. They should not be accommodated.

1/30/2007 8:25:00 PM

Supplanter
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Relolgion

1/30/2007 8:27:16 PM

BridgetSPK
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^^^They probably can figure it out some other way.

(Or they ask. Or one of them knows and passes it along.)

[Edited on January 30, 2007 at 10:26 PM. Reason : sss]

1/30/2007 10:26:14 PM

quiet guy
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maybe the prison guards decided to be pranksters and put a sign in the bathroom just to see them try to go to the bathroom sideways

1/30/2007 10:43:14 PM

moron
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If these were Christians having their religious beliefs violated, some people would be freaking out.

1/31/2007 12:06:38 AM

joe_schmoe
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well, i dislike christians as much as the next feller...




...but damn them muslims have some silly fucking rules.

1/31/2007 12:25:35 AM

TreeTwista10
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"If these were Christian convicts"


dont accidentally overlook the fact that these Muslims who are being oppressed are prisoners

1/31/2007 12:29:59 AM

Scuba Steve
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its stuff like this that emboldens the ultranationalist elements of society to gain promenance, although they might have a case here.

1/31/2007 12:32:52 AM

The Coz
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Does this mean that they sit down to urinate, as well?

1/31/2007 12:33:15 AM

TreeTwista10
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^ftw

1/31/2007 12:38:31 AM

The Coz
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Or does Allah only care about #2?

1/31/2007 12:58:05 AM

moron
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" Islamic code prohibits Muslims from facing or turning their backs on the direction of prayer"

1/31/2007 2:08:19 AM

bgmims
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Yeah, we got that. They have to crap sideways. But do they have to pee sideways as well. Do their kids beds face north and south in case they happen to wet the bed?

1/31/2007 7:52:44 AM

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it shouldn't make a difference what religion you are

you forfeited most of your rights when you became a felon

(I have no problem with allowing prayers or service or what not, maybe some people could use guidance of some type)

but making some concession to felons because they might not go to heaven with their virgins is asanine

1/31/2007 9:31:32 AM

billyboy
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^^haha

1/31/2007 12:56:25 PM

ssjamind
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i am tired of their shit

no pun intended

1/31/2007 4:59:41 PM

Crazywade
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"Cause I'm sittin sideways.."

2/1/2007 8:28:13 AM

HockeyRoman
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Wow this is retarded.

2/1/2007 8:48:50 AM

TKE-Teg
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so fucking retarded

2/1/2007 1:39:26 PM

RattlerRyan
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WOAH WOAH WOAH

OK so you mean to tell me that Muslims have to bring a compass with them every where they go to know which way they have to face when they take a shit?

So let's say there is a flight heading from Barcelona to New York City, and say there's a muslim on the plane that has diarrhea. Does he have to take a shit facing away from the door in a plane restroom to keep from being a criminal in the eyes of Islamic Law?





























You gotta be shittin me. I'll face where I want and shit where I want, you hear that Allah?

[Edited on February 1, 2007 at 2:26 PM. Reason : ]

2/1/2007 2:26:28 PM

TreeTwista10
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I guess they're forbidden from going to the North or South Poles of the Earth

2/1/2007 2:28:33 PM

Shivan Bird
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If there was any justice in the world, the prison would install rotating toilets and Mecca wallpaper.

2/1/2007 3:35:40 PM

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