A university in Saudi Arabia is looking to hire instructors, lecturers, and professors for Math.

We have a dire need and have a 24/7 hiring policy. We need people starting January, but you can join in February or March as well.

Benefits:

Salary: $3,200/month, tax-free.
Furnished accomodation (free).
Transportation to and from work (free).

You will have to buy your own tickets.

You can easily save $2,900+/month, which translates to $34,800+/year, after taking out local expenses. Subtract travel/tourism expenses, and you can still easily save $25,000-$30,000/year, or more.

If you are interested, let me know and I will give you instructions.

P.S. MS or PhD preferred, but BS is fine (in math, stats, physics, etc).

12/4/2006 1:55:43 PM

that sounds exciting, though im csc not math. how dangerous is the area for a white person?

12/4/2006 1:59:15 PM

Classes taught in English?

12/4/2006 2:00:51 PM

Hey we need CSC too.

Yes, classes are taught in English.

It is very safe here. It is a small city, and not a single attack has taken place ever.

Whites have been teaching here for the past 8 years.

WARNING: There isn't much to do here (in the big cities of SA, there is, but this city is dead). BUT, the money is great, esp. if you want to save some for a year or two for whatever reason that you might have.

12/4/2006 2:05:07 PM

well you can always hang out in a bar...

OH WAIT

12/4/2006 2:22:19 PM

who needs alcohol when you can have opium?

12/4/2006 2:30:41 PM

how much is gas in saudi arabia?

12/4/2006 2:32:34 PM

^^ touche, honkey.

12/4/2006 2:33:00 PM

not that i engage in it, but hashish is commonly smoked, and if you know the right people, you can get alcohol as well. but, if you are an alcoholic or a druggie, you will die of thirst/hunger here.

gas is $0.60/gal

[Edited on December 4, 2006 at 3:25 PM. Reason : MATH, CSC, ELEC ENG, COMP ENG, ENGLISH, BUSINESS]

12/4/2006 3:24:08 PM

What city is this?

12/4/2006 3:28:06 PM

Hell Hail

(I call it Hell)


Brown is Hail Province; in the center of it is the city of Hail:

12/4/2006 3:38:10 PM

i'd be all over it if i were qualified.

[Edited on December 4, 2006 at 4:21 PM. Reason : ]

12/4/2006 4:21:27 PM

Wow a Saudi Arabian University hiring on TWW......that makes total sense....

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"preferred, but BS is fine "

BS, yep you've got that right.....

12/4/2006 6:19:56 PM

A year ago, I would have pounced at this opportunity. Anyone who's pretty mobile should really consider it, it would be an amazing experience.

12/4/2006 6:21:46 PM

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"i'd be all over it if i were qualified."

12/4/2006 6:32:55 PM

what province does Lawrence live in?

12/4/2006 7:03:49 PM

no chicks allowed

12/4/2006 7:15:36 PM

damn, if they needed anyone in my field, id be all over this after next semester

12/4/2006 7:33:19 PM

I'm not majoring in math so I wouldn't qualify anyway

but

are women allowed to teach? I don't know anything about the culture, but I do know there are a lot of countries in that general region who do not look favorably upon women outside the home....

12/4/2006 7:47:02 PM

how about earth science?

12/4/2006 7:51:00 PM

...there's only so much you can know about sand.

12/4/2006 7:52:59 PM

HELL NO

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO

12/4/2006 8:20:33 PM

i spent about 3 months in saudi and can confirm its boring as hell

12/4/2006 10:48:28 PM

Not trying to knock trappy's post here, but he says it's tax free - this is partially true. SA wont charge you taxes but you can bet the US government will. That is, of course, unless you don't plan on coming back.

12/4/2006 11:10:18 PM

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"SA wont charge you taxes but you can bet the US government will"

how would they find out? wouldn't you have to claim that income to be taxed? what are the laws for overseas income?

12/5/2006 1:53:48 AM

I guess they frown on casual sex.

12/5/2006 1:58:49 AM

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"Wow a Saudi Arabian University hiring on TWW......that makes total sense...."

WTF does that mean anyway? Does it make sense that you are sitting on a chair inside a concrete building chatting on something called the internet? You should be outside in the jungle, hunting animals to feed your family and building a shelter for them This is not an official ad you dumbo, I just work here as a lecturer.

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"what province does Lawrence live in?"

Lawrence? Lawrence of Arabia?

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"no chicks allowed"

Needless to say, the university is segregated by gender (teachers and students). You can come here whether you are a single female, single male, a couple, or a teaching couple. We need people on the female campus as well.

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"damn, if they needed anyone in my field, id be all over this after next semester"

What is your field?

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"are women allowed to teach?"

I answered your question above in this post.

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"how about earth science?"

Not here at this uni, but I am sure they need people for that at other universities in SA, or even in UAE, Qatar, Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait. For SA, check out the King Fahad University of Petroleum and Minerals (http://www.kfupm.edu.sa), and also http://www.kaau.edu.sa and http://www.ksu.edu.sa and http://www.psu.edu.sa

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"i spent about 3 months in saudi and can confirm its boring as hell"

Which city were you in? And what were you here for? Send me a pm if you don't want others to know. Thanks.

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"Not trying to knock trappy's post here, but he says it's tax free - this is partially true. SA wont charge you taxes but you can bet the US government will."

Nah dude, thanks for your post. If your gov will charge you taxes, you need to know that, and if you want to evade them, well find out how before you come here!

BTW, here is the website of the university:

http://www.uoh.edu.sa

12/5/2006 4:52:08 AM

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"how would they find out? wouldn't you have to claim that income to be taxed? what are the laws for overseas income?"

overseas income is taxed just like domestic. I suppose you could go to the trouble of having a foreign bank account and transferring the money later, but the government is going to question any large money transfers, as well.

12/5/2006 7:51:08 AM

BA PoliSci from State and currently in Sweden working on my MSc in International and European Relations

12/5/2006 8:34:11 AM

No, only if your employer is based in the US are you taxed at US rates. IE: Military, multi national company etc.

Technically though you have to pay taxes where you live if you don't pay US taxes and you can get in a shitload of trouble. HOWEVER....

You can only bring so much money into the US per year before penalties. I think it's $10,000. This was bypassed by a family member of mine who had several family members bring in $9000ish every visit. Then he found out Canada doesn't give a shit and set up an account over there and just withdrew money in the US from a Canadian bank and paid the $5 convenience fee.

12/5/2006 8:35:27 AM

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"...there's only so much you can know about sand."

12/5/2006 8:51:24 AM

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"Needless to say, the university is segregated by gender"

Well that's gay. How do you meet people?

12/5/2006 9:28:22 AM

my guess is arranged marriages

12/5/2006 9:59:02 AM

Do they have like, brokers for that?

12/5/2006 11:34:22 AM

^, ^^, ^^^

Yes, most marriages (Saudis) are arranged, and more often than not, with a first cousin.

P.S. And yes, they do have matchmakers. But mostly, since it is usually between first cousins, their services are not required.

I met my girl (British) when I was working as a teacher in a British school in Jeddah (the best city there), and she was (and is) a teacher in another British school in Jeddah, and we both went to a Valentine's Day party at a compound.

Those who sent me a PM, I will get back to you soon. Thanks.

[Edited on December 5, 2006 at 3:56 PM. Reason : ]

12/5/2006 3:55:18 PM

What kind of students are there. I know when I lived in the kingdom I went to an international school so it was a huge range of nationalities. However, from looking at the homepage of the website you linked it looks more like it was just Saudis (not that that is a bad thing). Also, is the town growing at all, I know when my family first moved to Dhahran there wasn't shit. I think the only channel we could watch was some Aramco nature channel. When I left it had come a LONG ways.

12/5/2006 4:30:25 PM

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"overseas income is taxed just like domestic. I suppose you could go to the trouble of having a foreign bank account and transferring the money later, but the government is going to question any large money transfers, as well."

There's quite a few ways around having to repatriate foreign funds. For the amounts being talked about here, aka under 100K, really wouldn't be that big of an issue.

12/5/2006 5:01:46 PM

the weddings are the only place women can get wild, and only because the groom is the only man there

knock yourself out with that

12/5/2006 6:31:06 PM

^^^

Because it is a government university, the students are all Saudis. The town is very small (~200,000), and is growing slowly, but an artificial growth spurt is about to take place very soon at a cost of $8 billion. Check out http://www.pabmec.com/en.php for details. (Along the lines of projects in Dubai) And also check out http://www.kingabdullahcity.com/en which is another artificial city planned near Jeddah, at a cost of $27 billion (world's largest private sector investment project).

BTW, what school did you go to.


^ The weddings are segregated as well. The men are in one hall, and the women in another. There is absolutely no mixing, and the couple are never seen together. BUT, the women DO go wild in their hall, with wild dances and risque dresses, at least the ones who are not so conservative.

12/6/2006 1:59:07 AM

a risque dance is like what? something where the hips move?

12/6/2006 2:01:16 AM

Hail, hahahaha u gonna be bored out of your ass

12/6/2006 2:53:08 AM

Can I coach the team to the Little League World Series too?

12/6/2006 2:01:54 PM

bttuniversity

gotta start teaching again tomorrow

anybody else wanna join me?

1/5/2007 5:20:47 PM

i still wish i could do this

1/7/2007 12:21:13 AM

I was looking at the pay --

Even tax free and accomodation provided I have to wonder, is that a decent salary for a starting lecturer or professor?

What is the going rate for lecturer/professor starting salary in the U.S.?

1/8/2007 1:23:55 PM

starting salary for a lecturer in the US is about 45,000

give about 12-15 to tax, leaves you 30-32.

spend a min of 6-8 on accomodation. leaves you 22,000-26,000 net.

whereas this is 38,400 net.

now of course, if you want to be hired as an assistant professor, that is another story.

[Edited on January 8, 2007 at 1:57 PM. Reason : not to mention, everything here is a lot cheaper (food, gas, etc)]

1/8/2007 1:51:41 PM

So what do you do for entertainment? Do you have a good internet connection? Television?

1/8/2007 3:51:27 PM

television, yes, good choice of channels. (you have to buy your own tv, though)

internet at the university is alright, not terribly fast. about 512 kbps, i would say.

internet in housing is being installed as i type. don't know how fast it will be.

best thing is to get to know people, and get close to 1 or 2 people (if it happens, it happens, if it doesn't, you can't force it).

i have come to know a colleague really well, and we are very close buddies, even though we have known each other only 3 months. (he is from nyc)

we hang out and have a lot of fun just shooting the shit and going out to eat, and watcing tv, etc.

no real entertainment possible here.

1/8/2007 5:11:54 PM

outside of the university environment, what is the general attitude of saudis towards foreigners and particularly non-arabs?

1/8/2007 5:34:36 PM

depends on where you are from.

are you a caucasian american? if so, people will love you.

wherever i go with my friend, people are all over him. they want to talk to him, want their picture taken with him, want him to take their picture, offer him food and drink, invite him to their houses, etc, and these are all strangers from the street!

but, it is also him--he loves to talk to random people on the street. all he has to say is "hi" and then they just love him and start chatting.

if you are anything else, let me know, so that i can tell you what attitude to expect.

[Edited on January 8, 2007 at 5:39 PM. Reason : ^ so why couldn't you do this?]

1/8/2007 5:38:40 PM