My sister adopted her from a farmer who was going to shoot her for chasing his goats. You see, they weren't the amusing variety that freeze and fall over, but rather they were normal goats who would run around until they had heart attacks.

She's a very sweet dog - fun, loves to play and run. Every adult that has ever met her has liked her. There's just no one out there in the middle of nowhere that wants to take in a dog that chases livestock. For anyone who would invest the time to train, I think she'd be great for training and competing in obstacle courses or (obviously) herding competitions. She might be a good farm dog if someone will be VERY patient.

Basic information:
* black-and-white, looks to weigh about 35 lbs (she's petite)
* Guessing she's around 2 years old.
* crate trained. She comes with a VERY large crate. It's about 4 feet high I believe. Could use a new bed to lay on in there though.
* Like all normal border collies she has a strong herd instinct, which has been redirected into playing soccer
* She will fetch, sit, stay, etc.
* She's loyal and they never put her on a leash although I would expect it to be a nonissue.
* Spayed and UTD on shots.
* Does well with other dogs, but does have a tendency to overpower dogs that are too laid back, like their 10yo black lab, when playing.
* Does NOT do well with small children

It's the not getting along with children that is a problem. She babysits sometimes for my brother who has two really little ones and while she hasn't bitten nor has she tried she does growl and tries to stare them down (herding instinct we think) so my sister is nervous about keeping her. She's had her almost a year now so they've taken care of the vices.

I think she would be best as an only dog or in a home with other high-energy dogs like her. My sister takes her running every morning and her kids (10 and 13) play with her every afternoon. Sis has been trying to find a home for a few months now (unknown to me -- they live near ECity) and has decided that if she can't find a home within another month or so she is going to surrender her. I don't think she has papers, in case anyone cares.

Pickup ... the dog is at my sister's house. I do not have a fenced yard and I do have two small children (same age as my brother's kids, but not the SAME children you sickos ) so I cannot keep her here. If you want to meet and greet ahead of time, you'll need to go to her. If you're willing to take her without meeting first, I'd like for you to give me something small ... say $10 ... which I will give back to you when we bring her to you. It's my way of ensuring you're going to take her and I'm not stuck with a dog since I have nowhere/way to keep her. My sister is willing to drive her down here with her crate.

[Edited on November 22, 2006 at 7:32 PM. Reason : JUST TO BE FAIR -- I'm almost 100% sure she's a mix ... she does not have regulation markings]

11/22/2006 7:14:58 PM

pics?

I may be interested, we live on a farm and just gave away one of ours to a family that needed one more than we did.

11/23/2006 12:19:04 AM

I called my sister tonight to ask her for a pic, so I don't have one of this actual dog yet, but here's one close that came up when I searched "border collie mix" on google

11/23/2006 1:28:24 AM

bttt

these are great dogs

11/23/2006 8:50:49 AM

have you contacted the border collie rescue? She could be a short hair border collie and not a mix. I would contact bc rescue first before I tried to let someone who doesn't know anything about the breed get her.

11/23/2006 9:42:40 AM

Matt's deadset on a puppy...but if all else falls through, including ^s suggestion, shoot both of us a PM

yes to fenced yard, no to small children...our outside dog is submissive and laid back; the inside dog - he's a cocker

[Edited on November 23, 2006 at 11:10 AM. Reason : klj]

11/23/2006 11:09:08 AM

just talked to my sister -- she's away from home so she's going to try to get a neighbor to take/send me a pic. She did say that the dog is somewhat aggressive to other dogs, but I think that's only when she's inside. She definitely needs someone energetic to work with her, because she's constantly trying to herd things

11/23/2006 8:17:14 PM

bttt

11/28/2006 5:37:06 PM

^^^Do you NEED a third dog? At that point you have a "pack" and things can get more complicated. Also...no offense but I can't see the two of you with a high energy dog like this...they can really be neurotic and destructive if they aren't exercised mentally and physically A LOT. That said, I'd be happy to help train her.

11/28/2006 6:14:27 PM

bttt

12/11/2006 3:46:37 PM

border collies are great but need a dedicated owner.
They are very smart, almost too smart and need to be challenged.

My roommate has one and she's awesome. One of the sweetest and smartest dogs i've ever met.
We also rescued one a few months ago and whoever had him previously messed him up.

This is not a dog you can put in a pen or crate for long periods of time without it going crazy. Definitely not a good "first" dog.
Great for someone who is active and wants company running, hiking, or biking.

I second the suggestion of contacting a breed rescue. They can post him on their site as a curtesy listing at the very least... or maybe they have foster space available.

http://www.bfpa.org lists dogs as curtesy listings as well.

12/11/2006 4:13:40 PM

last bttt

probably will have to call a rescue if no one wants her ... although we'd really rather not do that

12/27/2006 6:26:44 PM