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erice85
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This could have been asked before, but since search sucks

what could be causing a slow connection to bit torrents (legal torrents). I am at an apartment complex and rarely get above 2 KB/sec, while my other traditional downloads go at normal speed


any help would be appreciated

10/8/2006 2:01:10 PM

rudeboy
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capping your upload or how many people are you connected to

10/8/2006 2:27:01 PM

Perlith
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What ISP are you using? Your apartment's free wireless? Road Runner? What download speeds are you getting on download speed tests?

My guess is bandwidth monitoring/regulation by the apartment complex over BitTorrent ports.

10/8/2006 5:36:02 PM

erice85
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using NTC and my speed test showed that i was in the cable range and all normal downloads run decently, like maybe 150/200 k a sec during peak hours and higher late at night

10/8/2006 6:17:53 PM

guitarguy
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open ports on your router maybe...

http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Linksys/WRT54G/BitTorrent.htm

10/8/2006 7:14:51 PM

firmbuttgntl
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Using bitorrent and a router, enable dmz. And get zonealarm.

2: make sure you're not using a wrt54g router.

10/8/2006 7:42:22 PM

wolfpackjb
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ntc was always slow when i lived at wolf creek

10/8/2006 8:46:36 PM

erice85
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^ yeah i am figuring it is just some shitty ass internet and not much i can do about it

10/8/2006 9:05:37 PM

NCSUStinger
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i bet this isnt the first time

10/8/2006 9:08:36 PM

Ashes
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Dont DMZ unless you absolutely have to and you don't have ot for bittorrent, just forward the appropriate ports on your router, assumping you have one...

10/9/2006 8:31:46 AM

Raige
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Try toggling back the number of downloads you are doing at the same time. Max of 4 torrents downloading at the same time.

Let me explain this real quick, someone with more network knowledge can explain it better but... you can't just think -- okay i have this much bandwidth, why am I not always downloading at that speed ---

First, you are limited by the slowest point on the line between you and whoever you are downloading from.

Second, you don't juust have 200kb down... you have 200kb down over several "pipelines". If you go over the number of pipelines you cause a traffic jam. Every torrent connects to multiple people online. So while you may be downloading only 5 things you have 25+ connections depending on your setup. Each pipelin has a max speed depending on your connection type. All those pipes you have added up give you your bandwidth.

Use your computer (browse on the web), then turn on your bittorrent and have 10+ files downloading. You'll notice soon that even web browsing is impossible. That's because not only are the pipes you use for downloading full but so are the ones your uploading through. Data can still get through it's just much slower.

My roommate used to have his downloads on full all the fucking time. 15+ at the same time and I couldn't even web surf. Lets not talk about trying to play online. So what I did (we use Azerous) is that I went into his settings and told it

- For each torrent do not use more than 5 connections (it auto goes for the fastest connections)
- Do now simultaneously download more than 3 files at one time.

Now he can leave bittorrent on all the time and we both can enjoy the enternet and I can access my website and tools. Sure... he doesn't get everything as fast (takes an extra hour or two) but he's not raping the connection so bad I can't view CNN.com.

I hope someone with better network terminology can give you more definition than what I've said but that's basically the gist.

10/9/2006 9:17:47 AM

Deshman007
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NTC caps uploads/downloads when using Bittorrent....move out of Wolf Creek!

10/9/2006 3:17:17 PM

moron
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Get Azureus and turn on transport encryption (the lowest level to obscure headers should work).

10/9/2006 4:44:14 PM

erice85
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^ that didnt work unless i am doing something wrong..the speeds remain the same, which is slower than 56k lol

10/10/2006 2:16:23 AM

BobbyDigital
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If your apartment complex supplies your internet connection, they may be policing bittorrent.

10/10/2006 7:46:53 AM

Bakunin
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change the default port, k

10/10/2006 8:10:25 AM

Deshman007
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^changing the port will not work....you live at wolfcreek, don't you?

10/10/2006 11:56:51 AM

Aficionado
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if you have a linux box as a router is it really easy to stop bit torrent

that has to be what they are doing

10/10/2006 12:17:44 PM

Deshman007
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that is exactly what they are doing. They hav a packet sniffer and traffic shaper running at all times that can tell if a packet is a bittorrent header. The only way around this is with the utorrent encryption, but that doesn't work very well.

10/10/2006 12:49:07 PM

erice85
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thanks for everyone's help

i combined what was told to me here as well as what i read through googling other people's NTC problems and have gotten my d/l rates up from 1-2 KB/sec to 27 KB/sec or so


I basically turned the encryption on and turned of the UDnP and that seemed to work.

And yes I live at shitty wolf creek

10/10/2006 1:09:27 PM

Deshman007
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I can get in the 100s Kb/s sometimes.....i dont know what the deal is. I have called and talked to them multiple times.

10/10/2006 5:11:28 PM

Bakunin
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well, I should probably mention that those caps are in doubtless in place because they do not have enough bandwidth for the whole complex to run BitTorrent and by circumventing the caps you are being an asshole to everyone in your apartment complex simultaneously

however, if that doesn't bother you, then you can try a few more things

and I'd start with increasing the number of connections to around 100 in your BitTorrent application of choice and see what that does for your speeds

10/10/2006 5:46:21 PM

Quinn
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Those who use bit torrent may as well just punch their roomies in the fucking balls thats how bad you fucking ruin an internet connection.

10/10/2006 6:49:20 PM

erice85
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^ i go to bed later than my roomies, usually wake earlier and only run it over night

so STFU

10/10/2006 6:54:08 PM

Quinn
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http://www.google.com

....timeout



Oh god damn it

10/10/2006 6:55:57 PM

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