Don't get me wrong, I am all about them having and needing their team back to get back to normal or whatever, but its been just over a year, and they are dropping that much fucking money on that? Thats just some bullshit, there is a ton of other more significant, necessary, and imortant things that money could and should have been spent on in that city.

But it does look badass after the renovation. But I am thinking people would rather have houses, and other shit repaired instead.

[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 8:11 PM. Reason : .]

9/25/2006 8:09:31 PM

never heard this argument before....

but with that said, i completely agree, there are WAY too many other places that money should go towards

9/25/2006 8:10:45 PM

As a native New Orlenian, I couldn't begin to explain how ignorant MacTuckNutsack's post is.

[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 8:11 PM. Reason : ~]

9/25/2006 8:10:52 PM

Yeah you make a good point.

Do the poor people that are homeless now really care about the Saints???

I mean lets be honest.

9/25/2006 8:11:31 PM

I always said Fuck New Orleans and let it rot, and move the saints to LA

They'll be there in 10 years anyway

9/25/2006 8:12:02 PM

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"As a native New Orlenian, I couldn't begin to explain how ignorant MacTuckNutsack's post is."

Ok, so there are still people living in fucking FEMA trailers, how about you go down and tell all them they could have had a house built for them, but the money went to go repair a building for sports instead. See how far you get before you get killed.


[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 8:12 PM. Reason : .]

9/25/2006 8:12:09 PM

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"MacTuckNutsack's"

Say that 5 times fast...

9/25/2006 8:12:12 PM

I just think its bullshit to drop that much money on something when there are still people homeless, jobless, and still totally fucked over because of Katrina when that money could have helped a ton of people.

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"As a native New Orlenian, I couldn't begin to explain how ignorant MacTuckNutsack's post is."

Then explain why it is, instead of just saying it.

[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 8:14 PM. Reason : .]

9/25/2006 8:13:41 PM

The 'Dome serves more purposes than just fucking hosting football games, you tunnel-visioned dick.

I'll leave it to you to figure out the rest.

[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 8:15 PM. Reason : As a starting point, think about the kind of people who work for, say, Aramark.]

9/25/2006 8:14:23 PM

^^hey buddy, hush your damn mouth... you cant bet on homeless people -3 on MNF...




it was money well spent

[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 8:14 PM. Reason : d]

9/25/2006 8:14:27 PM

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"Some may ask why Louisiana is pouring so much money into a sports arena when there is so much devastation still around the city. It's a valid point. All I can report is that the state and the city say they desperately need the revenue from events and conventions to help the local economy. Tourism is a huge part of New Orleans and rebuilding the Superdome, they say, will help bring the tourists back. Local and state officials also point to the symbolism of a rebuilt Superdome as a sign of hope and recovery. Is this money well spent? Only time will tell."

aha from the weather channel
http://www.weather.com/blog/weather/8_10320.html

9/25/2006 8:17:43 PM

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"The 'Dome serves more purposes than just fucking hosting football games, you tunnel-visioned dick. I'll leave it to you to figure out the rest."

You are still wrong, even though I agree with you that it serves more purpose, but like I said, go tell the people living in trailers and with no jobs, that they needed to spend $185mil for people with money and homes to go watch games, and spend all that money on new badass luxury boxes so rich people can watch the game in style. You aren't gonna win this argument.

[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 8:18 PM. Reason : .]

9/25/2006 8:17:57 PM

id say i wished mac's dad died during the hurricane but then i rememberd his dad is already dead

9/25/2006 8:18:14 PM

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"See how far you get before you get killed."

I'd get pretty fucking far, considering that most of the people you THINK you know shit about want the Saints back in town.

Being that two of my uncles and countless family friends lost everything they own, and I'm displaced myself, you really don't want to continue this argument with me.

9/25/2006 8:18:46 PM

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"there is a ton of other more significant, necessary, and imortant things that money could and should have been spent on in that city."

Not to mention, they'll be sure to lose money in an area where the average fan wont have as much money to spend the next few years.

I'm thinking they'll be in Portland or San Antonio by 2010.

9/25/2006 8:18:50 PM

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"I'd get pretty fucking far, considering that most of the people you THINK you know shit about want the Saints back in town."

Correct me if I am wrong, but I would assume 99% of them would rather have a fucking house.

You lose again.

9/25/2006 8:20:00 PM

I'd concur ...



you are a tunnel visioned dick.

9/25/2006 8:20:04 PM

I can't believe that this retard is going to trying to debate a topic like this with a firsthand source...

[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 8:21 PM. Reason : MacPerson, you really do not know shit about shit.]

9/25/2006 8:20:17 PM

haha, so if you lost your home in a hurricaine, you would rather live in a fucking FEMA trailer, and have your football team back than have a house built for you?

haha, riiiight.

Holy shit, you honestly cant sit here and argue that this money couldn't have been spent better, especially if the owner moves the team.

[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 8:23 PM. Reason : .]

9/25/2006 8:22:04 PM

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"Correct me if I am wrong, but I would assume 99% of them would rather have a fucking house. You lose again."

So you think these people will never get a house because the Superdome was built?

Was that the last $185 million in the tank?

Goddamit dude, you're dumber than I've ever given you credit for.

9/25/2006 8:23:06 PM

I can agree there, but the main point is, this money could have been spent a lot better especially since the status of the team staying isnt certain.

All I am saying is if you were homeless etc because of the hurricaine, you'd prolly be pretty fucking pissed that $185mil just got dropped on a sports stadium.

[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 8:25 PM. Reason : .]

9/25/2006 8:24:12 PM

...

9/25/2006 8:25:06 PM

regardless, they are going to be walking on broken glass for awhile...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jo-saints092506&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 8:29 PM. Reason : .]

9/25/2006 8:28:11 PM

Quote :

""Some may ask why Louisiana is pouring so much money into a sports arena when there is so much devastation still around the city. It's a valid point. All I can report is that the state and the city say they desperately need the revenue from events and conventions to help the local economy. Tourism is a huge part of New Orleans and rebuilding the Superdome, they say, will help bring the tourists back. Local and state officials also point to the symbolism of a rebuilt Superdome as a sign of hope and recovery. Is this money well spent? Only time will tell.""

That actually makes a lot of sense, and I can see it from that perspective, I guess you aren't gonna make everyone happy with this, and when you look at all the money already spent, $185mil isnt that big a %, but still, it just seems somewhat silly to drop that much when there are still people in need.

9/25/2006 8:28:41 PM

Unfortunately, everything in that city is just gonna get blown over again eventually anyways. Sad, but true.

9/25/2006 8:32:32 PM

haha, I agree, another disaster needs to happen to just put that city out of its misery.

9/25/2006 8:33:31 PM

and on top of that, you really have to wonder. All those people still living in trailers a vast majority of them are in the lower 9th are they not? Perhaps the money isnt being spent there because they don't think its a good idea to rebuild everything the way it was before the hurricane.

Urban planning takes time, a building can be rennovated with much greater ease.

9/25/2006 8:35:21 PM

first of all I am guessing insurance paid for part of it, so this is not money earmarked for the public anyways....the sugar bowl could bring in multi-millions, and maybe even cover this tab in 3-4 years with total economic input

and this argument could be extended ad nauseum....why have any pro sports when there are homeless around, why not take the money for the RBC and carter finley and go help the homeless in downtown raleigh.....i know katrina pulls at the heartstrings, but spending money on pro sports is a nationwide phenomenon that is about as american as apple pie, so if the ny yankees are going to ask the city and state for 800 million to build their place, why can't new orleans spend 185 million to feel whole again

9/25/2006 8:37:56 PM

Well said. But I still cringe that big daddy Stein wants $800mil for a new home. There is nothing wrong with Yankee stadium. Thats a lot of what makes the Yankees the Yankees.

9/25/2006 8:40:12 PM

You are going to help these people by creating an atmosphere for commerce. Shelling out cash is nice, but its not a long term solution. However, investing into infrastructure that will bring in big money to the area is what this city needs.

9/25/2006 9:14:51 PM

Yeah I feel ya on that, I never looked at it that way.

9/25/2006 9:16:14 PM

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"...the state and the city say they desperately need the revenue from events and conventions to help the local economy. Tourism is a huge part of New Orleans and rebuilding the Superdome, they say, will help bring the tourists back."

9/25/2006 9:17:31 PM

$185 mil could pay for a whole new RBC center!!!!

9/25/2006 9:27:28 PM

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"Well said. But I still cringe that big daddy Stein wants $800mil for a new home. There is nothing wrong with Yankee stadium. Thats a lot of what makes the Yankees the Yankees."

Both the Mets and Yankees new stadiums are privately funded. In fact the city issued bonds that will be paid back over time for each so NYC will actually make money of them. The only thing the city is paying for is the infrastructure changes, which are minimal.

9/25/2006 9:31:06 PM

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"Then explain why it is"

because you posted it

that alone makes a post ignorant

9/25/2006 9:40:12 PM

$185 million isn't that much really.

LA wants to spend $800 million to reonovate the coliseum for an NFL team..

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9242141/detail.html?rss=la&psp=news

Now that is freaking ridiculous! It won't even be a new stadium! Consider the construction costs of some very modern stadiums:

Heinz Field: $281 mil
Qwest Field: $300 mil
Gillette Stadium: $325 mil
Reliant Stadium: $352 mil
Ford Field: $430 mil
Cardinals Stadium: $455 mil
Lincoln Financial Field: $512 mil

9/25/2006 9:45:31 PM

Yeah the Cardinals new stadium is the shit. It is a dome, but the real grass field slides outside into the sunlight, then back in for games.

9/25/2006 9:54:28 PM

It is nice, but it's wierd that they would go to all that trouble.

Do they really need a dome in Arizona?

Doesn't seem like it would rain enough to justify paying what was probably an extra 150 million for a dome and retractable field. Seems like they just did it to stand out.

9/25/2006 10:01:38 PM

dry heat sucks

9/28/2006 9:29:01 PM

renovation costs for the superdome: $185m

political and social commentary from a chili's manager: priceless

[Edited on September 28, 2006 at 9:31 PM. Reason : ]

9/28/2006 9:30:57 PM

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"Do they really need a dome in Arizona?"

Isn't a dome required to be considered for hosting a Super Bowl?

9/28/2006 9:33:10 PM

no, it's in dolphins stadium this year

9/28/2006 9:34:53 PM

Ah, this is it:

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"Weather: Average high temperature in early February must be at least 50 degrees, or the stadium must be covered (Lucas Oil Stadium will have a retractable roof)."

9/28/2006 9:36:57 PM

you got it

[Edited on September 28, 2006 at 9:39 PM. Reason : gfkd]

9/28/2006 9:38:46 PM

It's in Dolphin's stadium?!

Isn't that place horribe?

It's a Baseball stadium for God's sake!

9/28/2006 9:38:52 PM

everything that has been said here was already said on monday night, but they had madden instead of some annoying troll who uses fourteen s per thread

[Edited on September 28, 2006 at 9:52 PM. Reason : \/ whoa, online??]

9/28/2006 9:38:57 PM

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"It's in Dolphin's stadium?! Isn't that place horribe? It's a Baseball stadium for God's sake!"

um

it's a fooball stadium, hence the name

and it's undergoing massive renovations

at least it was the last time the braves were there

(am i the only person who didn't know the cardinals stadium is named the university of phoenix stadium?)

[Edited on September 28, 2006 at 9:43 PM. Reason : yeah, online]

9/28/2006 9:40:39 PM

I know it's a football stadium, but it's used as a baseball stadium.

[Edited on September 28, 2006 at 9:42 PM. Reason : as in University of Phoenix Online?]

9/28/2006 9:42:18 PM

The Phoenix University Online MBAers

9/28/2006 11:46:45 PM

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"Ok, so there are still people living in fucking FEMA trailers, how about you go down and tell all them they could have had a house built for them, but the money went to go repair a building for sports instead. See how far you get before you get killed."

Here's the thing. Those people living in the fucking FEMA trailers? None of them are complaining. It's a welcome distraction. At least, that's what the people I've interviewed who live there say.

9/29/2006 9:09:05 AM