for Chuck Amato to start feeling some heat. he needs to hear the same dissatisfaction from the fanbase that Herb got at the beginning of the year (and eventually led him to leave).

either way this game was a loss. even if we had won, would anyone really have enjoyed hearing Chuck's hoarse, raspy voice telling everyone how "this team never gave up, and these kids have so much heart, and you can say what you want about Marcus Stone but he is 7-1 as a starter."

the bottom line is i am fed up with Chuck acting like we are playing real football teams. we just lost to AKRON!!!! Marcus Stone has been horrific (except for the last quarter). If Chuck goes has another 6, 5, or 4-win regular season (which is VERY possible) he should be gone. there has been to much money poured into this program for his empty promises and terrible results.

9/9/2006 5:03:08 PM

everyone should boo when he's on the jumbotron

that oughta work

9/9/2006 5:10:05 PM

that'll teach em

9/9/2006 5:13:04 PM

please stop this shit.

9/9/2006 5:16:21 PM

i call bs on an alter.



i am almost certain that OWNAS is a posting bot.

9/9/2006 5:19:17 PM

lee fowler needs to start writing letters for different situations

9/9/2006 5:20:24 PM

i disagree with the booing AT a game....i think thats classless and only makes NCSU look bad to the rest of the nation. but students AND alum do need to take action against chuck.....

9/9/2006 5:23:29 PM

OMG IVE NEVER HEARD THIS B4

9/9/2006 5:24:22 PM

OMG some fans need to be reminded of it

9/9/2006 5:25:29 PM

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"makes NCSU look bad to the rest of the nation."

that last two minutes of the game that were shown on ESPN already did it for us

9/9/2006 5:28:18 PM

i agree

9/9/2006 5:30:06 PM

I'm sure that he feels the heat already. I think he gets a bad shake because the media knew that we'd suck this year, and our typical overly high expectations make him look bad when the media is right.

Face it, we have a crappy quarterback. Burke needs PT, stat.

We lost 5 incredibly important players on our defense. Everyone ignored the fact after we shut down App State. You don't lose that much of your defense and expect to have a great defense the next year.

Our O-line is weak. We'll never have a consistent offense until we solidify the line. Plain and simple. We've been able to recruit some last year, but they're not ready to go yet. Aside from the O-line, Stone dictates how well we play. We can't run with a crappy O-line. We can't run with a crappy quarterback. All we can do is run.

People say we have talent...but I don't see it there on the field. I guess you can blame Chuck for that. Whatever.

9/9/2006 5:37:30 PM

This has nothing to do with being picked last and losing players to the NFL.

Our QB situation has been the worst in the nation for 3 years. I mean absolute incompetence there. Something isn't clicking. I can take a loss where we just weren't the better team, but 3 years watching middle-school calibre quarterbacks isn't going to cut it.

I wouldn't mind finishing last if we actually showed some kind of competence under center. This is ridiculous, and has been since Rivers left.

9/9/2006 5:46:53 PM

The O-line wasn't that bad today

Stone had time

he just isn't "good'

9/9/2006 5:48:03 PM

section 29 and 30 wanted to see Evans get some reps

9/9/2006 5:48:25 PM

All sections wanted to see someone else.

Hell, I was asking people in the parking lot at halftime if they could throw.

9/9/2006 5:49:00 PM

KEEP CHUCK!

9/9/2006 5:49:42 PM

you are an idiot. chuck amato is the best thing that has happened to our program in 20 years.

9/9/2006 5:53:49 PM

Someone has some sense here I see.

9/9/2006 5:54:29 PM

except for Philip Rivers and Tory Holt

9/9/2006 5:54:53 PM

nope. chuck amato has done more for our team than either of them.

9/9/2006 5:56:16 PM

troll

9/9/2006 5:57:20 PM

^^too bad he isn't doing shit now.. stuff like winning

9/9/2006 5:59:12 PM

5 bowl games
i cant even count how many nfl prospects
and the best facilities in the ACC

9/9/2006 6:03:11 PM

^ Exactly.

Then. Isn't. Now.

9/9/2006 6:04:01 PM

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"and the best facilities in the ACC"

close, but no

9/9/2006 6:04:25 PM

it all means nothing to a college if they can't win fball games... it was Akron for fucksakes

9/9/2006 6:06:00 PM

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"and the best facilities in the ACC"

Go to Tallahassee sometime.

9/9/2006 6:07:43 PM

we need patience. You can't build a National Powerhouse in the toughest conference overnight. You can't build a top 25 team in the toughest conference overnight. We've had both of these overnight under Chuck Amato. Personally, if last season was a "down year" like so many people have said then I like our program's direction. If you consider a 7-5 year as not good enough in the most powerful conference in the nation, then you need a lesson in reality anyway.

Bottom line: If we'd beaten UNC the last couple of years, nobody would be bitching. It was only after the UNC "loss" in Chapel Hill two years ago that I remember anti-Chuck crowd emerging.

9/9/2006 6:12:58 PM

Firing Chuck would be a colossal mistake. You people...

9/9/2006 6:13:26 PM

ACC toughest conference? um no, that my friend, would be the SEC

9/9/2006 6:13:48 PM

regardless of what he's DONE he ain't doing shit this year. thanks for the memories, but you can expect some fucking heat for dropping this game.

9/9/2006 6:14:58 PM

^^^^ You're missing the point.

Mr. Rivers brought NC State to a top 25 team overnight. How do I know this? Our down has gone down the crapper ever since he left. That's proof positive the coach wasn't the reason we were top 25 then, and now that we're continuing to lose to sub-par teams like UNC and Akron, it's just glaringly obvious Chuck isn't doing ANYTHING to spin this ship back in the right direction.

[Edited on September 9, 2006 at 6:15 PM. Reason : .]

9/9/2006 6:15:25 PM

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"troll"

hardly.

i'm not trying to take away from those two players, but a coach, by definition, will usually do more for a program than a good player.

9/9/2006 6:21:22 PM

I have heard that Chuck has been hard to deal with by other coaches. He seems to be more of a PR/Motivator type leader and not a real X's and O's coach. We really need an X's and O's coach if we're going to replace Chuck.

IMO, if we couldn't get Cowher, go all out for Wake Forest's football coach, Skip Holtz or the head coach at Miami of Ohio (NCSU grad and former player who has done wonders with that program)

9/9/2006 6:21:55 PM

No way we can pull Shane Montgomery from MiamiOH right now. Skip Holtz and Grobe would be a backwards move. Cowher will not be retiring for at least 5 more years and he will never coach in college.

9/9/2006 6:24:03 PM

you want jim from wake forest? come on, seriously people

9/9/2006 6:27:56 PM

Chuck has a lifetime contract......

















http://www.newsobserver.com/1235/story/481010.html

9/9/2006 6:28:58 PM

Look at what Jim Grobe has done with Wake. He makes the most out of his players.

Skip has improved ECU's performance and MiamiOH's coach is just awesome.

Don't get me wrong, but if you fire Amato, these will be the realistic options, if any.

9/9/2006 6:29:49 PM

first off, this guy is obviously a troll so i won't respond to his shitty aliasy post.

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"i disagree with the booing AT a game....i think thats classless"

is your sarcasm detector borken?

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"but 3 years watching middle-school calibre quarterbacks isn't going to cut it"

i agree with that. watching jay davis trot on the field game after game was downright painful. one of my few gripes with chuck has to do with his stubbornness and reluctance to make a change. jay davis shouldn't have played nearly as long as he did, hes not a quarterback. stone shows more promise (though that not saying much). he did have a decent 3rd/4th quarter... i think he had about 7 completions in a row at one point.

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"chuck amato is the best thing that has happened to our program in 20 years."

hes obviously not the the best coach in the nation, or the acc...but he has done alot for our program. im glad he came here, i can tell you that.

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"it was Akron for fucksakes"

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"are you serious? this isn't some shitty division 2 school or something; akron is a strong team. penn state didn't have an easy time with them last week. we were only picked to win the game by 8 points. ntm we'd kill for their qb."

[Edited on September 9, 2006 at 6:32 PM. Reason : ]

9/9/2006 6:29:58 PM

its not a lifetime contract - its a rolling contract, he signs 5 years out every year

herb had one too - but that doesn't mean it can't be broke

9/9/2006 6:33:21 PM

fucking clown shoes

9/9/2006 6:33:37 PM

i was joking about the lifetime, the only school that will fire a alumni is UNC.....we are stuck with him unless he retires....

http://www.newsobserver.com/1235/story/481010.html

[Edited on September 9, 2006 at 6:34 PM. Reason : w]

9/9/2006 6:34:19 PM

How the hell is Shane Montgomery already an awesome coach???

He has been coaching for all of 2 years.

9/9/2006 7:18:40 PM

I'm thinking down the road a little. Hypothetically with the way the people are with Amato, we'll fire him or he'll quit in 2010, by then Shane will have enough experience under his belt. Also, Miami of Ohio is a recruiting goldmine for future NCAA Div 1 powerhouse coaches. I beleive Larry Coker (Miami), Jim Tressel (Ohio State) and Mack Brown (Texas) all coached there before moving to bigger schools.

9/9/2006 7:53:52 PM

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"How the hell is Shane Montgomery already an awesome coach??? He has been coaching for all of 2 years. "

haha, I was wondering the same thing. That program was built by Terry Hoeppner ( or Ben Roethlisberger). If anything, it's gotten worse under Montgomery

9/9/2006 8:12:31 PM

You do realize that Herb was/is a great coach, and you didn't get a coach near as good as him. I hope it takes 5 years of not being ranked, or going to the tourney for you people to realize this.

YOU ARE NOT DUKE, YOU ARE NOT UNC, and no matter who coaches your basketball team, you will never compete or be close to them. Get over it.

[Edited on September 9, 2006 at 8:16 PM. Reason : .]

9/9/2006 8:15:10 PM

^

you do realize that great coaches win things

9/9/2006 8:41:13 PM

No, great coaches are great coaches, players lose games. Just ask Joe Pa about the game today.

9/9/2006 8:43:51 PM

you really think that coaches never win or lose games for a team?...and if thats the case explain to me how you know herb is a great coach

[Edited on September 9, 2006 at 8:48 PM. Reason : more]

9/9/2006 8:45:58 PM