At least that's the jist of the article.http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/HH25Dj01.html
8/24/2006 8:52:00 PM
Has the US really ever been important as a resource country for the rest of the world? I realize that during colonial times the resources were a big part of the colonization, but has america ever derived it's power in the world from it's control over a particular important resource?Furthermore it's not too particularly suprising that the resource rich states (or those whose economy depends chiefly on one resource) would band together to seek to preserve their power, especialy banding away from a nation of established power to nations of developing power where they might have some influence over the way policies develop.
8/24/2006 9:50:48 PM
THe US exports well-produced movies.
8/24/2006 10:05:40 PM
this is nothing more than a reorientation of the world, from a two sphere world to one with probably about 4 to 5 competing spheres. this is nothing more than competition, the very thing that has made us great. what is there to worry about. you cant expect a replay of a roman style dominance for 2000 years, just isn't goin to happen. we have advantages so do they.. in the end we will be come less of an issue and they will stop mobilizing against us, as we become more equal. by that i mean its always easy to see the elephant in the room when your ants, but when you yourself become closer to an elephant, your worries shift to not only the largest elephant but the neighbors as well.am i making any sense?
8/24/2006 10:24:42 PM
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8/25/2006 1:29:17 AM
Thats some bullshit propaganda right there, Trap. According to unbiased estimates, approximately 500 of the Lebanese casualties were Hezbollah fighters. That puts the ratio of fighters to civilian casualties close to 1:1.
8/25/2006 1:44:23 AM
^ I never heard that from any source. Got any source?If you are going to ask ME for a source, I will say look at pretty much any source: CNN, BBC, AP, Reuters, FOX, etc.
8/25/2006 1:49:34 AM
Hezbollah claimed that 43 of its troops were killed. Of course that is bullshit, they want to boost the number of civilian deaths and minimize Hezbollah losses to make Israel look bad.
8/25/2006 1:55:11 AM
I am seeing that figure for the 1st time.Don't know what to believe anymore.
8/25/2006 2:20:36 AM
i sure as hell wouldnt believe terrorist organizations
8/25/2006 2:30:41 AM
^ You think governments are any better?
8/25/2006 7:06:48 AM
OEP, You mean you take Hezbollah's number as given...but the NY Sun as propaganda?
8/25/2006 7:56:58 AM
How did you come to that question after reading this, "Don't know what to believe anymore?"
8/25/2006 4:59:06 PM
^^ Who said I am taking Hezbolla's numbers?Did you read what I said:
8/25/2006 5:45:00 PM
8/25/2006 6:20:43 PM
^ The Vietnam case is true. Some people argue we never lost that war.
8/26/2006 8:48:17 AM
8/26/2006 8:53:50 AM
^such as?(i am genuinely curious)
8/26/2006 8:56:14 AM
how about internet commerce for one thinghow about windowshow about processors out the ass genome shitpharmaceuticalshell, we even exported the motherfucking globalization idea itself!etc. etc. etc.[Edited on August 26, 2006 at 9:00 AM. Reason : s]
8/26/2006 8:59:46 AM
United States' commodity exports:agricultural products (soybeans, fruit, corn) 9.2%, industrial supplies (organic chemicals) 26.8%, capital goods (transistors, aircraft, motor vehicle parts, computers, telecommunications equipment) 49.0%, consumer goods (automobiles, medicines) 15.0% (2003)United States' commodity imports:agricultural products 4.9%, industrial supplies 32.9% (crude oil 8.2%), capital goods 30.4% (computers, telecommunications equipment, motor vehicle parts, office machines, electric power machinery), consumer goods 31.8% (automobiles, clothing, medicines, furniture, toys) (2003)
8/26/2006 9:21:26 AM
The jist of the article is that the worlds resource rich countries are hedging together in order to counterbalance and possibly usurp US global political influence. In essence, this is the equivelent to an economic seige being prepared that would probably be sprung sometime in the future. Its pretty scary stuff. Imagine having all the worlds petrol resources coordinated through Moscow! That would give the Russians more control over the American economy (Current) then the Fed or any other institution here in the US. Off course, I think what will happen is that the US will lead an explosion of alternative energy technologies and just like the Internet, all these countries will again miss the boat and pissed on the sidelines while we make more bank.That, or WW3.
8/26/2006 9:50:25 AM
8/26/2006 10:03:51 AM
^^ I see that scenario as it was layed out, but I don't fear it that much. The American economy is far less resource dependent today, so the possible harm that can be inflicted is not too severe, definitly nothing compared to what the FOMC can do. Yes, OPEC can cause a lot of damage, oil at $120 a barrel is high and is very detrimental in the short term, but once the "economic seige" begins, it is only a matter of time before the market backfires. A Monopoly has rules it must follow in order to maximize long term profits. The first rule is to minimize demand destruction, which an "economic seige" is not doing. An excellent historical example is the OPEC Oil embargo during the 1970s. In the short-term after OPEC began demanding higher prices for it's oil customers were forced to pay it, wraking in massive profits. However, within months, oil consumers began using less oil and oil competitors began boosting production. Ultimately, by the mid 1980s, prices were back to pre-embargo levels, yet OPEC production was almost half pre-embargo levels. All in all, in the long term, OPEC broke even, but only because it finally gave up on the endeavor and began demand rebuilding. http://www4.ncsu.edu/~gsparson/data/Peak%20Oil_files/image002.gifNote: Images are not accurately to scale.
8/26/2006 11:50:22 AM